Nervous Obama Supporters - Relax

[gabeana]

Kos on his front page has a great breakdown of what is going to happen tonight and later this week
http://dailykos.com/
"Expect Clinton to get the early media spin victory, but soon expect the hammer to fall -- 50 supers, a gazillion raised in February, and high-profile converts like Richardson will create intense pressure for Clinton to call it a day."

"If she doesn't, she can continue running. It's a free country, and I like the thought of both campaigns building infrastructure in Pennsylvania. This primary season has done wonders for party building, and I'm under no hurry to shut it down. And Hillary's campaign can continue to play "Karl Rove" to Obama's effort. It's good practice for the shit Republicans will fling at Obama this fall. And if Obama can't handle the Clinton crap, how's he going to handle the McCain crap? So I'm cool with that as well.

But realistically, Hillary Clinton would be little more than our version of Mike Huckabee, nominally in the race, but everyone else having moved on."

[jab105]

1. I can't AHHHH!!!! AHHHH!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

ok, I feel a bit better now:)

[blocker]

4. Just imagine 50 super coming for Obama this week

that and the fact that he raised 50-60 milions! :)

[Kittycat]

12. Even better if he can get them all on TV together at once.

POW - knock out.

[Shine]

14. and if they could all break into song it would be even better

:D

[nxylas]

20. On second thoughts, let's not go to Camelot

It is a silly place.

[book_worm]

2. Of course this is right. I expect it may go all the way to the convention

[Jawja]

32. It will if the supers don't step in

and back Obama and get her out of the race. As long as Obama has not passed the magic winning number of delegates, the Clintons will hang in, pressure super delegates, demand the Michigan and Florida delegates be seated, etc.

[Window]

3. ..

[underpants]

5. What % does she need to win by?

A week or so ago I read here that it had to be 16% in each Tx and Oh to pull even (I think) does that sound right?

[book_worm]

7. the media will spin any win by her as a big comeback.

[gabeana]

9. If and a big if if she wins 3 states tonight

it will be pushed out of the news cycle in 24 hours

[underpants]

11. oh bulls*&t

stop with the "media hates her" crap. They anointed her over a year ago and they screwed it up.

[lapfog_1]

10. no... it's 60 - 40 Hillary in BOTH Ohio and Texas

for her to have a CHANCE to pull even in the rest of the races.

[underpants]

13. Thats what I thought

someone else post 57-43 everywhere~ about the same.

I don't see it happening. She completely torched some bridges in the last 24 hours too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4878905

[bellasgrams]

23. She hasn't torched any bridges, that's just in some DU soft on

brain matter BO supporters minds.

[grantcart]

17. Even if she got 60% it would have a minimal impact in Texas

If she got 67% it would gain her 15 delegates max


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4880238&mesg_id=4880238

[papau]

18. Once Mich and FL are counted what will the lead be again?

[lapfog_1]

38. They will never be seated.

They may have some sort of do-over. But those results will not be recognized at the national convention.

[LSparkle]

6. THANK YOU!

This is how my rational, "adult" self has been thinking all day (while my fatalistic, ready-to-be-disappointed-again inner child has been melting down). Thanks for snapping me out of my negativity!

[ORDem]

8. I've been relaxed since WI. It was over after that primary. HRC could

only win the nomination by some pretzel logic of delegate counts or some other nonsense. The SDs are not going to put up with that crap. Obama's going to widen his delegate lead tonight and SDs will start turning over to him at an increasing rate.

:dem:

[grantcart]

15. Tomorrow no matter what

Obama will be leading in

Votes
Money
Donors
Caucuses
Primaries
Brains
Dem Senator endorsements
Dem Govenor endorsements
ethics

and one more thing


Delegates

[XemaSab]

37. .

:toast:

[rodeodance]

16. ha ha---you people are hoot today.

[JimGinPA]

22. And Yet You Keep Trolling

[skooooo]

34. All I see is "ignored"

nt

[NoBorders]

19. Yep, after going back through the math, reminded she basically cannot win

the nomination without some sort of major upset.

[David Zephyr]

21. Welcome to the DU, gabeana

And thanks for your encouraging post from over at Kos.

[DemGa]

24. Take heed -- "Daily Kos" is a cesspool of Hillary hate....

Kos himself pops off with incorrect sh** all the time -- he's nothing but an amateur.

[gabeana]

25. Okay so where has Kos been wrong consistently?

[DemGa]

26. I've seen Kos post things late at night -- just getting stories completely wrong

due to his Hillary-hate. Funny watching his dedicated readers jump all over him. But if anyone thinks Kos is the big leagues, they are mistaken. Here's one of his irrational rants that had to be retracted:

Hillary: Obama and Edwards are pro-Hamas and pro-Hezbollah
by kos
Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 09:18:06 PM PST
She's losing it.
Ms. Dennett eventually piped up and mentioned Iran – a reference to Mrs. Clinton’s vote this year to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, which Mr. Obama and Mr. Edwards criticized with the suggestion that it could embolden President Bush to go to war.
“It seems like a pattern, that’s my concern,” Ms. Dennett said.
“I don’t think it’s a pattern, I just have a fundamental disagreement with my colleagues who are running,” Mrs. Clinton said. “I think the facts are indisputable – they support Hezbollah, they support Hamas.”
What happened to the confident, competent, and fiercely on-message candidate from earlier this year? The wheels are coming off the wagon. What's next, and ad with Obama and Edwards morphing into Osama Bin Laden?
She's become ridiculous

[gabeana]

27. Provide an example

All I'm asking is back up your claim, give me some evidence to chew on,

[DemGa]

28. Here's one

KOs posted this nonsense, then had to retract--his readers went nuts. Kos misread the news story and thought Hillary said Obama and Edwards were "pro-Hamas and pro-Hezbollah"; the story was referencing the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.


Hillary: Obama and Edwards are pro-Hamas and pro-Hezbollah
by kos
Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 09:18:06 PM PST
She's losing it.
Ms. Dennett eventually piped up and mentioned Iran – a reference to Mrs. Clinton’s vote this year to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, which Mr. Obama and Mr. Edwards criticized with the suggestion that it could embolden President Bush to go to war.
“It seems like a pattern, that’s my concern,” Ms. Dennett said.
“I don’t think it’s a pattern, I just have a fundamental disagreement with my colleagues who are running,” Mrs. Clinton said. “I think the facts are indisputable – they support Hezbollah, they support Hamas.”


What happened to the confident, competent, and fiercely on-message candidate from earlier this year? The wheels are coming off the wagon. What's next, and ad with Obama and Edwards morphing into Osama Bin Laden?
She's become ridiculous

[gabeana]

29. I remember that

and he did correct it with an update, mabye you can tell me because I don't remember this part, was Kos posting this directly from someone else writing or did that confusing line come directly from him?
In the mean time do you dispute what he said about her not being able to catch up? Is there something out there that can contradict this, i mean there might be I'm just asking.

[DemGa]

30. The whole story and comment were from some other source

he just misread it. He got confused because of the context -- a silly mistake. I don't pay any attention to Kos' views since it became clear to me that place was so infected with Hillary hate.

[gabeana]

31. Okay fair enough take care

[cbayer]

40. Did he think it would all be over tonight?

I don't know the answer to that question, but my guess would be that he did.

[skooooo]

33. I hope you're right!!!!

:scared:

[JoFerret]

35. Yes - relax

...whichever dem wins/ gets the nomination WE are the winner and America is the winner.

[stillcool]

36. I see an awful lot of Ignore on this thread...

it's so pathetic. Why do these rabid dogs have to keep prowling around, showing their teeth, while foaming at the mouth? That said, I am resigned to wait and see the results. This election is no different than the last one. I sat on the edge of my seat the whole night that time too. I am audaciously hopeful of a good result.

[cbayer]

39. Definitely do not relax.

WE (democrats) have a tough road ahead no matter who gets the nomination.

[AntiFascist]

41. The only problem is...

what if Clinton's crap continues to help McCain? It may be good practice for Obama in the GE, but it could also be turning more people toward the dark side.