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steven88 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:54 PM
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With John Edwards out,, who can we trust?
I am a John Edwards supporter. With Edwards out of the race, I planned to vote for the Democratic candidate when the primary race is decided. I have felt that both Obama and Clinton are capable and certainly better than anyone the Republicans have to offer. However I am now concerned about the disclosure that Obama has been preaching NAFTA reform while assuring Canada that his support of NAFTA reform is just campaign rhetoric. Obama's campaign denied the claim but it has been confirmed by a high level Canadian memo detailing the conversation.

My problem is that I am tired of being lied to. I have had a lifetimes worth of lies by Bush and company. I want someone I can trust to be truthful and I am afraid that the nomination may be decided before we really know Obama. Remember that Bush ran on the promise of change and the promise of bringing honor and integrity to the White House. Look where that got us! People didn't know Bush well enough.
I am not too enthused with Hillary either. I don't like scorched earth politics and she certainly does that well.

So, the question remains - who can we trust with John Edwards out of the race?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:56 PM
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1. Since the Canadian government now denies what Clinton claims
I think its safe to say that we're being lied to by the Clintons again. The answer to your question should be obvious.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:17 PM
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4. Because governments don't lie
:sarcasm:
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:06 PM
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2. trust no one
Question everyone.
Demand accountability on whomever gets into office.
Trust should be earned - and is not an entitlement once elected as president.
Trust should be earned - and is not an entitlement if the person is a democrat, republican, independant.....

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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:15 PM
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3. I wouldn't trust any politician
in a shithouse, even if they were wearing a muzzle.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:18 PM
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5. Only fools "trust" politicians to be anythiing other than politicians.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 01:19 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
In a democracy we're not supposed to "trust" politicians.

"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same."
Marie Beyle
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:20 PM
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6. I'm very curious what the results will be for Edwards today.
I know he suspended his campaign but looking forward to his numbers, esp. in the Primary states, and as a person from a primary state today, I did cast my ballot for him.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:20 PM
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7. Trust but Verify
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 01:21 PM by cottonseed
Honestly, as much as Obama's been dragged through the mud these last few days, at least his record on transparency versus Clinton's seems to me to be superior. If there is transparency, there can at least be something like a "trust but verify".
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:33 PM
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8. No one.
There is no candidate without taint. Hell, there is no person alive who hasn't made mistakes. Plus, no one gets to play in the Presidential Game without serious, serious backing be it overt or covert. The only difference I see in Presidential candidates is the likelihood that one of them can pursue an agenda that might sway a teeny bit the lop-sidedness of social injustices vs corporate interest. And even that is a pipe dream..that has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. But what am I going to do? Give up? Refuse to believe that things might change? Maybe so.
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Wayjose Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:36 PM
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9. Sorry but I do not trust Edwards
call it gut feeling but I don't think that Edwards is trustworthy. No politician is trustworthy...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:38 PM
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10. I did not say he was....
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 01:39 PM by stillcool47
and for that matter, there are very few people in my life that are 'trust-worthy'..including family members. Maybe you should re-read what I wrote, or perhaps you are replying to another post. Whatever.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:46 PM
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11. Feel the same way, without Edwards, I am too suspicious of both
Obama & Clinton. One has a verifiable record that makes me question her worth, and the other has too little on record which makes me doubt the 'truth' this man tells. He presents well, indeed, and can certainly speak with charisma as Bill Clinton did in his first run for Pres.
I am more inclined to want to believe the words of a politician who has spent his life fighting the challenges that he claims today are still his priorities.
Edwards had a mantra. Clinton & Obama have all the words we like to hear.

Neither strike me as having the guts to undo the massive criminal mess that lies in D.C. today.
Edwards would have stepped up to this challenge since this is what his lifetime work has been about.

Not too excited for either O or C to take up that challenge. I believe they will both do a Pelosi when it all comes down to the task.
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Disappointed is a good term as to the preview of our next Pres.
Either will simply be everything to everybody.
Not possible, so in the end the US citizens will come in second to the forces of money, power, & greed that exist today.

Thanks for this thread.
In Honor to an honorable man, John Edwards.
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