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bushbegone04 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:09 PM
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Firefighters for Bush. Uh Oh.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:10 PM
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1. bull hockey
That ain't even a blip on the radar.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:11 PM
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2. Who do most FireFighters support???
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:42 PM
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24. Regardless of the union heads...unfortunately firefighters are...
...notoriously republican. I even party at a local bar with a few...at least alot of them don't bother to vote. It's sort of the same mentality as other law enforcement types have...GOP=the law. In the larger scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
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sablescort Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:11 PM
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3. ripping off the Kerry playbook have you been...
Dumbya, eh?

Its just plain illogical for the firefighters to be supporting this bastard after * cut off the "First Responder" funding!
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:11 PM
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4. It would be unrealistic to expect 100% support...
...for either camp from any group.
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bushbegone04 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:12 PM
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5. here's a few posts from the site - what do we do?
Aren't they supposed to listen to their union? What is WRONG with them? These are real people!

Name: PHILIP GONZALES SAN ANTONIO FD LOCAL 624
comments: great site! the word is spreading around the dept. i hope to see many more in support of this to show that we don't support the IAFF and their decision to back kerry. pass the word. be safe

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Name: Ryan Sheehan, Airport Fire/Rescue, Bellingham, WA
comments: I just finished reading the Politics & Legislation section of the March/April 2004 "Fire Fighter" magazine. After reading it, I tossed it across the room and began ranting to my wife about the partisan bile being printed and distributed by the IAFF. She listened patiently and then found this website for me. I have been trying to find a site just like this to express my support for President Bush. Thank you.

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Name: Robert Brooks, Captain E502, Flower Mound, TX
comments: I have been on the fire service for over 20 years and I fully support President Bush. I support him not because he is a republican, but because he says what he means. Some say it is shooting from the hip and gives ammunition to his opponents and comedians. I say I'd rather have someone lead our country by stating their views and morals, rather than weighing all the political ramifications before they can open their mouth. It's time this country is run by the people, with their opinions, rather than by born and bred politicians who seem to never have an opinion of their own. I urge you to not only support President Bush, but support anyone running for office that has an opinion of their own that you can stand beside. This country has spent too much time on Republican vs. Democrat. We need to spend our time electing people, not politicians, who are willing to do what is right. The fire service is extremely important to me, but my country is more important. God Bless America!

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:34 PM
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16. Yeah...like Bush ever spent ONE ounce of energy for another human being.
NEVER risked his life. Kerry has and THAT is why MOST fire fighters identify with Kerry.

Bush is a coward and MOST fire fighters are well aware of it, although some may never have heard the truth about Bush and his weaselly, cowardly ways.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:25 PM
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17. 300 firefighters lost their lives at the WTC because this administration
was too busy divvying up Iraq (in Cheney's case) or too busy driving a pick-up around his farm (Bush's case).

No contest who the majority of firefighters will support. It's not going to be the pretender-in-chief.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:12 PM
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6. I think that most of the firefighters want Shrub gone.
"Duh, Looks Like I hit the trifecta!!! HAHAHAHAHA.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:13 PM
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7. One website does not negate an endorsement of Kerry
I'm sure in any Union there are some that support Bush and not Kerry.

BTW, it looks like anybody can post anything they want to this site - if you know what I mean.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:13 PM
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8. The question is...
...are these real firefighters or just some more actors answering the call from central casting :)

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bushbegone04 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:14 PM
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9. that is why i put up the samples
these are real people giving names, rank and the fire stations they work at. it just all makes me uneasy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:29 PM
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13. Pshaw....this is no big deal. MOST are behind Kerry and I have no doubt
that those who are uncomfortable about it will be pushing this site. There are REAL people who are behind Kerry because of his LONGTIME support of fire fighters and their issues, as well as the shared experience of being UNDER fire and risking his life just as they do.

Bush NEVER spent one ounce of energy risking his life for another human being. NEVER.


No REAL fire fighter would honor Bush's cowardice and lying ass instincts to save his own butt at the EXPENSE of the lives of others.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:39 PM
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19. Who cares?
Thirty firefighters for Bush. Three million for Kerry.

If Bush wants to campaign on that, he's welcome.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:15 PM
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10. Wouldn't put this past *them.*
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HEFFA Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:23 PM
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11. It looks like they're behind the other members of his administration too..
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:28 PM
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12. I submitted a post on their guestbook.
Name:
Anonymous
Message:
While I honor your service to your fellow citizens, and appreciate the risk you take everyday to rescue others, I am afraid I must disagree with your political views.
President Bush has proposed a budget to cut first responder funds by $700 million and has also cut funding for the FIRE Act by a third. I don't understand why first responders such as yourself could support Bush.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:33 PM
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14. It's a guestbook. That's ALL it is.
The names are unverified. Not all even claim to be firefighters.

Not, for instance, an entire fire company or a firefighters union. Just some backward individuals.

NOT particularly impressive. Not even all that expensive to do.

It's the Bush base, fluffing up its feathers and trying to look big and intimidating.

Piffle.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:46 PM
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20. There's a pretty robust discussion board, too.
Funny, considering how few online, pro-Bush, conservative firefighters there are.

:wtf: :wtf:
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:26 PM
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22. But look what's on the discussion board
They post the home and cell numbers of IAFF employees, whom members are encouraged to harass. Charming.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:29 PM
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23. This is a typical freepertype harrassment of innocent people. Disgusting.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:34 PM
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15. Welcome to DU. It's a guestbook. That's ALL it is.
The names are unverified. Not all even claim to be firefighters.

Not, for instance, an entire fire company or a firefighters union. Just some backward individuals.

NOT particularly impressive. Not even all that expensive to do.

It's the Bush base, fluffing up its feathers and trying to look big and intimidating.

Piffle.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:36 PM
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18. I can only speak for the guys I know in the FD my husband
works for, with the exception of one, they are all for Kerry. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a percentage that support Bush because like any other group they don't necessarily vote in their best interest.

It would be nice if the guys on my husband's department could see the direct connection between the current 3 year contract offer of 0%/0%/1% and the Bush economy.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:17 PM
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21. Yes, I like to think of * as a fire fighter as well.....
Good grief. We're doomed, folks.
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