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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:43 AM
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Inexperience Vs Polarization
Hillary Clinton suggests Barack Obama is too inexperienced to be president...

Barack Obama suggests Hillary Clinton is too polarizing to be president...


Which is worse?

Saying someone can't do a job because they lack experience or saying someone can't do a job because everybody hates their guts...

That's politics....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:46 AM
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1. Obama hasn't starred in a pro-McCain ad
and he has not said she's too polarizing to be president. He's said she's polarizing, insinuating that for that reason she'd be a poor nominee. Hillary has flatly said he's not qualified to President but that she and McCain are. Yes, there's a difference.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:46 AM
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2. Hillary statement is based on a fallacy or lie, call it what you will.
Obama has at least as much , ifnot more relevant experience then Hillary. But yes, Hillary is quite possibly the most divisive politician in America today.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:48 AM
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4. Experience As Is Likeability Is Subjective Or At Least Somewhat Subjective
But, hey, if you want to believe that everything Obama says has merit and nothing Hillary Clinton says has merit there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:47 AM
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3. False comparison.
Neither of those would be worse than the other, in my view.

Consider if Obama had said this...

"I think that uh, I can bring the country together if elected, uh, I think Senator McCain can bring the country together if elected, and Senator Clinton is too polarizing to bring the country together."

Get it?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:53 AM
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5. He Said Something Very Close
He said Hillary will have a hard time bringing the country together because she is so polarizing...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:55 AM
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6. He has said that. No dispute. But when did Obama effectively endorse McCain over Hillary?
...As Hillary just did.

Inexcusable.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:03 AM
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7. I See
Say you are a young person going on a job interview...

In scenario one the interviewer says you are a fine person but we are looking for someone with more experience...

In scenario two the interviewer says we can't hire you because everybody hates your fucking guts...


Think about it and get back to me...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:08 AM
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8. He says she's polarizing and that will hurt us in the general election
if she's the nominee and make her less effective if she's president. She says he's not qualified to be president, but that she and the repub candidate both are.

Get back to me when you understand the difference.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:14 AM
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9. I Would Rather Be Seen As Inexperienced Than As Having A Plurality Or Majority Of People Hate My
Fucking Guts But That's Me...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:20 AM
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10. Frankly, I'd rather be hated for what I stood for than liked for...
what was that I stood for?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:22 AM
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11. weak. very weak. He didn't say that people hated her guts.
She did say that she and McCain both have enough experience to be President and Obama doesn't. It's damned sad that Hill supporters can't even be honest with themselves. I can say that I don't like Obama's shennanigans re NAFTA and condemn him for that. You? Hillary could do anything and you'd make excuses for her. This was not a good thing for her to do.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:29 AM
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12. I Am Very Disappointed That Hillary Is Playing Games On Free Trade
Anybody that thinks a President McCain, Clinton, or Obama will fundamentally alter our trade policies is going to be sorely disappointed...

At the end of the day Hillary is saying Barack is too inexperienced to lead and Barack is saying Hillary is too polarizing to lead...

Barcack is telling Hillary she can't lead because nobody likes you and Hillary is telling Barack he can't lead because he's inexperienced...

It is what it is...

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