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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:35 AM
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Hillary on The Daily Show
In talking with Jon Stewart, Hillary admitted that she would be more than willing to put Republicans in her cabinet, stating that she wanted to foster a spirit of bipartisanship.

All I can say is that this is sad, that she's reverting back to her Goldwater Girl roots.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:38 AM
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1. President Clinton's Secretary of Defense was a GOP congressman...eom
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:40 AM
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3. from Maine. Sue Collins and the other Maine senators practically democrats
and that guy was in there LATE. Not even a full second term.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:58 AM
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16. Collins. Compared to William Cohen.
Collins a big backer of Bush's tax cuts. That eliminates her in my book.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:41 AM
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5. You say that like Bill was a god who could do no wrong
Frankly in my eyes Bill was nothing more than a corporate whore like his wife, and his administration was a huge disappointment.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:44 AM
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9. no...eom
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:36 AM
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23. Cohen was harrassed by his repug peers
for being married to a black woman.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:39 AM
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2. after her endorsement of McCain, shes convinced me shes a DINO
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:41 AM
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4. welcome to the club
some of us are celebrating our 8th year as a member.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:42 AM
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6. Obama has said the same thing. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:36 AM
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24. Can you provide a link or at least where, when and what he said?
All I have ever heard Obama do is always speak of McCain's service before blasting him on some position. I think this is good. Everyone already knows that McCain was a POW, anyone who would vote for him on that is already there. What it does is prevent the Republicans from claiming he shows no respect. To some independents, in retrospect, it may contrast well with how the Republicans acted in 2004. It's kind of like by saying that first, he can then strike harder on the current charge.

It is not doing what HRC did - unilaterally surrendering the national security issue if Obama is our nominee. When the math on delegates make it very likely that that would be the case - it is poor behavior.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:23 AM
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26. It's surprising
that Obama people would criticize HRC for this, when Obama has said that he'd have Republican Cabinet members as well. That's not really in doubt.



Barnstorming Obama plans to pick Republicans for cabinet -

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3466823.ece
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:29 AM
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29. self-delete
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:33 AM by the dogfish
Never mind, I couldn't find a link to source what I said.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:37 AM
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25. Remember, he is working to a different standard. Give him some slack/nt
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:27 AM
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28. What does that mean "a different standard" and why should he get slack?

Oh, wait, it's the old "Women have to be twice as good as men to get any respect standard."

Set the bar low for BO! We can't have a woman in the Oval Office!

:sarcasm:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:42 AM
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7. The only way to get things done in Washington without strong arm tactics
is bipartisanship.
It depends on who those republicans are that she would put in her cabinet. Get the right republican in the right cabinet position and things work well and she overcomes the right wing hate. Not that it will go away but she could override it.

Hasn't Obama said he would consider the same?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:48 AM
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12. So I suppose all those Democratic presidents who didn't have 'Pugs in their cabinet
Were using strong arm tactics? Whatever, I find the spin and excuses that Hillary supporters use to be astounding.

Oh, and you assume that I'm an Obama supporter. That is only by default since Kucinich is out of the race. I can vote for Obama since he's not a warmonger like Hillary, but that's about as far as it goes. If he's made the same promise, then it really goes to show how close these two candidates really are, and the whole concept of 'Pugs in a Dem cabinet simply goes to show that we really are living under the two party/same corporate master system of government.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:01 AM
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17. No but we know what the last 8 years of partisanship has gotten America n/t
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 07:01 AM by liberal N proud
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:07 AM
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19. So in other words what you're saying is that even if we have a Democratic president
If that president doesn't have 'Pugs in the Cabinet, we're going to be in for another eight years like the last eight years?

Gee, how did FDR, JFK and all the rest get along so well without a 'Pug in their Cabinet?:eyes:

There's a way to be bipartisan and there's a way to be bipartisan. You can work with 'Pugs, but by putting them in your Cabinet, you're essentially kowtowing to them and allowing them to have too much power over you.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:26 AM
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27. Obama on Rethugs:
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Thursday he would be more willing than Hillary Rodham Clinton to work with Republicans.

"Her natural inclination is to draw a picture of Republicans as people who need to be crushed and defeated," Obama said during a telephone interview from Texas with the Cincinnati Enquirer editorial board. "It's not entirely her fault. She's been the target of some unfair attacks in the past."

"I'm not a person who believes any one party has a monopoly on wisdom," Obama said.

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4238
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:44 AM
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8. What was it when Obama said it?
:rofl:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:46 AM
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11. Statesmanship



:sarcasm:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:45 AM
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10. I thought Hillary came over as very likeable
I loved her answer to the first question, that it is "pathetic" for her to appear on the Daily Show! B-)

The fact that Hillary can laugh at herself proves that she is not as stiff as her enemies pretend.

Stewart started off about the whole "let's work together with the Republicans" thing (maybe he has been watching too many Obama speeches?), and Hillary kind of followed on from that. But she made it absolutely clear that Democrats need to be back in charge to deal with the mess created by 7-8 years of Bush-Cheney.

You can watch the whole video here: www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=163165
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:51 AM
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13. Yes, I know, I watched it, including the part where she stated that she would be willing
To have 'Pugs in her Cabinet. I also heard her extolling the virtues of bipartisanship, which is all well and good until you look back and see that over the past twenty years bipartisanship has simply become another word for "getting really screwed".
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:56 AM
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14. When did Barack Obama reject and denounce bipartisanship??
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 06:57 AM by Apollo11
I must have missed that ... :eyes:

PS - At least we can both agree on your choice of alias! ;-)
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:58 AM
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15. he didn't
but he was sure rejected and denounced on here for saying it.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:05 AM
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18. There are plenty of valid reasons to be for or against a candidate. This is not one of them and
there is no difference in their positions. If we didn't have at least two different parties in the various positions of power in our government then it would hardly be a democracy now would it?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:09 AM
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20. As we've seen over the past twenty years,
Being "bipartisan" with the 'Pugs simply gives them an in with which they can go ahead and push their own agenda forward. This hasn't been good for the party or the country, and has led to the conclusion that we're living under the two party/same corporate master system of government.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:13 AM
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21. Obama said something similar, and the Hillary nuts went crazy,
I am sure the outrage will be the same against her today.


:eyes:
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:22 AM
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22. Gee, how quickly we forget.
When Obama admitted to the same thing it was wonderful. Remember?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:42 AM
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30. But that was Obama, different standards
He can do no wrong his hope for change cannot be questioned or you will be called a racist.

tidy, isn't it?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 AM
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31. It is odd that they are all in a TIZZY--they forget obama has said this for MONTHS>
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