To say Clinton endorsed McCain is either the height of dishonesty or the complete loss of reason.

[rug]

To say that either she or McCain have more experience than Obama is not an endorsement.

Only a fool or a liar would call it that.

The current thread calling her a traitor is the slimiest set of pixels to emerge from its vitrol-addled authors in, oh, hours.

Now, to the foolish, explain how you believe that clip is an endorsement.

To the liars, please do your circle jerk privately.

[Dinger]

1. That Sums It Up My Friend

Especially the last part.

[meow mix]

2. HERES THE VIDEO OF THE TRAITOR AND JUDAS: HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTING MCCAIN OVER A DEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&eurl=

[bigtree]

4. hysterical

[paulk]

94. it's today's faux outrage

it's easier than actually thinking....

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. thats totally not what she said.

[gateley]

27. She said what she said on the video --

That's plenty.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

33. which just stated the truth, mccain has way more experience than obama

its in no way an endorsement of mccain

isnt it common knowledge mccain has more experience

[gateley]

I'll agree with you that she wasn't "endorsing" McCain -

that's just the typical spin which is why I don't believe the charges until I SEE/HEAR what's behind them.

But what she said was almost as bad. She shouldn't have even brought McCain's name into it if she wanted to compare her experience to Obama's. There was no reason to do that - and yes, we do know McCain has more experience. But he's not running against Hillary for the Democratic nomination. She just shouldn't have included McCain.

[lapfog_1]

93. Why heck... McCain has 25 years of elected office experience

and a military career before that, including a 7 year stint as a commander of his own squadron...

so, based on experience, and experience alone... he blows away BOTH Hillary and Obama.

So, like, what are we to make of this?

Should we NOT vote for Obama because he has less experience than Hillary but vote FOR Hillary over McCain because she show good judgment whereas McCain does not???

Is that the logic she was reaching for here?

[Warren Stupidity]

80. She cleary stated that only two candidates were qualified.

1. Clinton.
2. McCain.

She put a republican over the leading Democratic contender for the nomination. Clinton is crap who will stop at nothing to defeat her primary opponent. Please reconsider your support.

[workinclasszero]

124. McCain and his thug followers will make much of this when Obama

is running against him in the fall.

Hillary is doing McCain's dirty work for him!

[rug]

I've seen it. Where's the endorsement?

I will concede Obama gave a speech.

[oasis]

38. Time for your meds. (eom)

[Dark]

83. I was on the fence, but that has pushed me over. Fuck her.

Go8ama.

/Ohio voter.

[Beacool]

126. Listen Kitty Kat,

please up your dose, you're starting to become unglued..........

:crazy:

[ProgressIn2008]

134. Oh dear, I thought your post was satire. Or sarcasm. Or something.

Judas?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

149. Obama's Supporters Think He Is The Messiah So That Part Of The Analogy Is Correct

~

[JI7]

3. she said the only thing Obama had was a speech from 2002

[bigtree]

11. and a committee chairmanship he hadn't bothered to exercise

[rug]

14. She left out his vote to continue funding her bloodthirsty war.

[Upton]

5. sounded that way to me

she's a traitor

[rug]

16. Show me.

[Upton]

24. Listen for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&eurl=

[rug]

58. I have. Numerous times. I guess my problem is my ear is connected to a brain.

[Upton]

82. Then read it for yourself

Hillary Clinton: "I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

Endorsing McCain over Obama, how else can that be interpreted.

[rug]

88. There's a line in One Day In The Life of Ivan Denisovich

when Ivan, in the dead of a Siberian winter, walks up to a heated guard booth where he's completely ignored.

"How can a man who's warm understand a man who's cold?"

I'm sorry. I cannot explain this to you. I am at as complete a loss to explain how this is not an endorsement as you are to understand why it is.

[krkaufman]

137. Then look at it this way... she is endorsing McCain's experience over Obama's ...

... and she is arguing that her experience over Obama is what merits her selection as our nominee... which then implies that McCain's experience also merits his selection over Obama.

It's not an official endorsement, by any means, but she is certainly arguing, in this exchange, that both she and McCain are better suited for the White House.

[tigervalentine]

146. So it's not an endorsement.

It's just H being nasty.

What possible reason did she have for including McCain in her comments regarding a race between her and Obama? If she merely wanted to compare herself to Obama, why was McCain included? You honestly don't think she wasn't implying that both she and McCain are superior to Obama? Implication exists to protect the speaker or writer from being blunt about what he/she means--it offers deniability.

If you've got a good explanation--other than a reference to a line in a Russian novel, thus proving your superiority to us dummies out here--I and my cohorts would love to hear it.

Question: Why was McCain even mentioned?

Answer: ???

[cooolandrew]

112. You can also watch the clip, here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/3/174153/7363/722/468109

[Name removed]

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[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I go with dishonesty. We met the drudge and it is us. n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

8. They're fucking idiots. nt

[Avalux]

9. Hillary sez experience = presidency. She has run her campaign on that.

To say McCain has enough experience to be a great president and Obama does not is reprehensible. She is a traitor to all Democrats.

[Straight Shooter]

19. Ooohh, the "T" word. Check out how Investor's Business Daily views Obama vs. McCain

[JAbuchan08]

150. Political cartoons are like quotes

they're not all clever, even if you can find one to encapsulate your point.

[rug]

23. I'll attribute your addition of the word "great" to foolishness.

"Traitor" to idiocy.

[Kittycat]

10. Don't try to spin what I just saw with my own eyes.

She just tried to say that McCain was more experienced, as in a better candidate than Obama. How can you NOT see that? Her pecking order should be her, Dem opponents - and last (if ever) a Repuke... And certainly not McChimpy! Jesus, now the 3AM commercial is making more sense.

DINO Hill is following the stench of LIEberman.

[bigtree]

20. on military and foreign affairs, he is more experienced. That's certainly not the only consideration

. . . but Obama has to accept that some folks may have been at this stuff a bit longer than he has. I know it's a sore spot with his supporters.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. She said he was a more experienced candidate. At least you got one thing right

And she has that right also. And she thinks an experienced Democratic candidate will match up against McCain better than an inexperienced one. And I think she has that one right also.

[rug]

28. "as in"? Take your foot out of your mouth before you put words in hers.

[jaxx]

54. I can see McCain using that video for his campaign against Obama.

[Kittycat]

125. Exactly! She needs to learn to keep that mouth of her's shut.

And realize that if she doesn't win (which it's looking like she won't) - that she's not only tearing the party apart, but she's permanently setting us up for failure.

[xchrom]

12. i think there are rules at obamaunderground -- you must not cross

or point out the fallibility of the anointed one or his legions.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. ...

:loveya:

[xchrom]

43. you too --

:loveya: :hug:

[wileedog]

13. She has insinuated

That a candidate with more 'experience' is better suited for the White House with her 3AM bullshit.

Then she went out and made a point of noting McCain's experience over Obama's.

She didn't 'endorse' McCain, but she sure as hell put out the notion that we are better off with McCain than Obama.

You know, to wear a pantsuit at 3am and answer red phones.

[rug]

32. "pantsuit". Thank you, I'm done here.

Next.

[wileedog]

47. Cool

I was tired of incessant denial anyway.

[bigtree]

44. The Obama camp is making that stretch, not Hillary Clinton.

They are generating outrage by exaggerating statements and twisting them into something they can take offense to.

BTW, Your candidate is younger and less experienced than a lot of folks in Washington. That's nothing to be ashamed about, but it's curious to see his camp getting exercised about it. There are going to be folks all around Obama with more experience (I hope) if he achieves the presidency. That shouldn't be something his supporters get a complex about every time someone points that out.

[wileedog]

60. See now that's..

.. a reasonable post. Of course he isn't that experienced. BTW, neither is she, and she is setting herself up to get utterly creamed on this issue if by some miracle she does win the nomination.

But just as importantly, how much experience did her own husband have in 1992? You know, the glory years she is riding her entire legitimacy as a potential president on?

Either way, its a retarded and completely self serving statement. She just gave McCain a huge talking point whether she wins OR she loses.

Because he has more 'experience' than the two of them combined. Why don't you people see what a terrible idea this is?

[maddiejoan]

62. No she didn't do that at all

She makes a case that McCain will be able to trot out his vast experience. He will.

She doesn't say he'll be "better", because she hasn't endorsed his policies.

Having said that --U can betcha that McCain would more successfully bring his GOP agenda to the Presidency, than Obama could bring our Democratic agenda.

And by that same logic --Hillary would bring our Democratic agenda to the Presidency far more successfully than Obama would.

[wileedog]

72. So...

McCain would get more done with a Democratically controlled Congress than Obama would?

And this is after Hillary already completely bombed getting a Health Care plan through a Democratically controlled Congress?

Just curious, other than blind allegiance, what do you base your theories on?

[maddiejoan]

78. Life experience

and the innate ability to spot a bullshitter from miles away.

[wileedog]

85. LOL

At the risk of going way over the line, considering her husband and his follies I'm not sure you want to be touting her judge of character and ability to 'spot a bullshitter.'

[maddiejoan]

86. Ahhhh

I see -- so you blame the wife for the cheating hubbie?

That's special.

[wileedog]

89. Not even remotely

Not sure how you even make that leap.

You said she could spot a bullshitter from a mile away.

She *married* one. Lots of people do.

Again, show me logical arguments that she brings significantly more of any experience, ability to get things done, etc to the table than Obama does?

I don't see it. And your first argument doesn't pass muster. What's the next one?

[maddiejoan]

90. I didn't marry one

I said *I* could spot a bullshitter a mile away.

Obama -bullshitter

Hillary --Not a bullshitter

your argument makes a case for Bill being a bullshitter though.

:shrug:

[wileedog]

107. Ah

I misunderstood. I thought you were saying she could see one a mile away.

As for your abilities, that's wonderful, but still doesn't constitute a rational argument that Clinton who already failed to push Health Care through a Democratic Congress once (spectacularly, I should add) will be able to do so now, or any better than Obama. Or explain how the same lack of experience that Bill had in 92 is much different than Obama now.

I'm listening. Please point out her vast experience and credentials in getting things done and handling the National Security Crisis she has clearly implied she is ready to take care of but Obama is not.

And BTW, the ones McCain is ready to handle too.

[Recursion]

139. What I don't get is, he can trot out his vast experience over both of them

Regardless of what hardcore Clinton supporters fervently believe, most of America doesn't seem to think that being first lady is "experience"

[Nedsdag]

119. Maureen Dowd said it best..

Is she wearing a pantsuit over a pantsuit?

I thought Bill was the night owl?

[scheming daemons]

15. Her "3 am" ad is more of a positive ad for McCain than for her.....

McCain can use that EXACT same ad in the GE against Hillary.


She's running interference for McCain.....

[ingac70]

25. She's a stalking horse for McCain! n/t

[rug]

36. McCain can't beat either of them. Stop trembling.

[journalist3072]

18. The Obamanians are looking for reasons to call Sen. Clinton a "b&tch" and "sleazy."

It's amazing to me that she's been called everything from "b@tch" to "sleazy" here...and the mods let these threads go on for a while...they may get locked eventually...but they go on for a while.

It's sick.

[scheming daemons]

31. We don't have to "look" for reasons... she gives up plenty of reasons every day....

..her behavior the past two weeks is everything we hate about Republicans.


She's become that which she used to (supposedly) despise.


She's a demagogue.... she's engages in dishonest attacks.... and she uses fear to drum up support.


She's every thing that caused me to turn away from the GOP in the first place.


I can't vote for her. I despise Republicans... and she's become one.

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[rug]

41. OK, this is both foolish and a lie. You're in the lead.

[AZBlue]

26. How would you explain it then?

[rug]

48. Thank you for a calm question.

In comparing the three leading contenders, she pointed out that both she and McCain are more experienced - not necessarily better - and concluded with a rhetorical dig that, in contrast, Obama simply gave a speech. Simple intermediate political rhetoric.

Now, substantively, to conclude that she therefore thinks McCain's experience makes him a better president than another Democrat, Obama included, is absurd.

The reaction here is both astounding and unstable.

[marions ghost]

143. If she doesnt think it

then she should retract it.

Because it is what she said.

[cbayer]

49. Let me try and explain what most people already know.

She is running in an extremely hot race against Obama.

She is making the point the the Republican nominee is going to point out his vast experience in the GE.

She is pointing out that she has much more experience than her democratic opponent and will be the better candidate to run against McCain.

How difficult is that?

[AZBlue]

66. Ah...I see you've adopted your candidate's tone and demeanor.

How charming.

[cbayer]

73. Which one? I support both candidates. nt.

[lapfog_1]

96. Care to list her experience?

Start with elected office, military service, and/or private sector management.

[marions ghost]

145. Let me explain...

She made the point that candidate #1, Hillary Clinton, and candidate #2, John McCain, have equal experience and "will" take that to the White House.

She made the point that candidate #3, Barack Obama, has so little experience that all he ever did of note was to give one speech.

She did NOT point out that she is the better candidate to run against McCain. Clearly she elevated herself and McCain over Obama (in order to garner conservative votes IMO).

Not difficult at all.

[cbayer]

29. I'm going with complete loss of reason

and an astounding amount of groupthink.

And the thing I know about shared delusions is that you can never use reason to correct them.

[NWHarkness]

34. As am Edwards supporter stuck in the middle

Her remarks are extremely troubling. I do read them as praising McCain as prefereable to Obama.

I'll support the nominee, whoever it is, but I have to tell you Clinton supporters that, as obnoxious as many of the Obama folks are around here, they have a point this time. What she said is beyond the pale of acceptable discourse for a primary campaign in my opinion.

[Arkansas Granny]

35. The Obama supporters have made up their minds in this matter.

You are unlikely to convince them with the facts.

[Dinger]

39. So True Arkansas Granny

[Abacus]

37. I wouldn't call it an "endorsement",

but in the context of her "experience" platform, it would seem that she believes McCain is more qualified for the presidency than Obama.

[mmonk]

40. She insulted a democrat by portraying him less than a republican

frontrunner in their primaries. No, it's not an endorsement, but it sucks.

[rug]

50. No she didn't. She pointed out that McCain has more experiencethan Obama, not that he's better.

And I'll overlook the irony of your outrage at anyone insulting a Democrat.

[mmonk]

70. There are better ways to say one has experience to take on

an experienced candidate. Yes, I insult democrats I don't care for like the ones that sell our constitution down the stream or are radically pro war like Lieberman. However, I can't imagine Obama comparing Clinton negatively to McCain.

[ORDem]

129. No, that's not what she said. Really, take off your HRC blinders for

one second. The snarky put-down of Obama at the end was simply over the top and uncalled for. It was extremely disrespectful, even more so in the context of praising McCain. If you don't think that was praise for McCain, then, again, take off the blinders for a second.

:dem:

[1awake]

42. I'm not to sure she endorsed McCain..

in fact I know she did not. But, she elevated McCain above a fellow democrat, and not only that, she pretty much made fun of Obama in the same breath while giving praise to a Repub who could be in the same race.. I can see it now.. Obama winning our nom, and McCain playing commercial after commercial of Hillary saying what she did.. nice.


I'm not bashing Hillary really, I still like her and would vote for her if she wins the nom.. but her statement should have been.. phrased differently I think.

[Lucinda]

46. What part of "we're running against McCain in the general and I'm most qualified to do so"

are you having trouble with?
Because that was her point.

[mmonk]

51. Then she can say she has the experience to take on the experienced

McCain. See how easy it is to not be vitriolic of your dem opponent and give the message if that was indeed it?

[1awake]

53. Sure, but thats not what.. or all that she said.

If thats all she would have said, then fine. She can claim that. But that has nothing to do with what I said, or more specifically what she said. Again, I have no real issue with Hillary.. I have an issue with this singular comment she made.

[beachmom]

45. Since Hillary thinks experience trumps everything else, YES IT WAS.

The only one being dishonest is you and anyone who defends her remarks.

[rug]

52. You need a stronger sunblock.

[stevenleser]

55. You Hillbots trying to spin this are wrong, and here is why

if a Freeptard came here and said the same thing, he/she would cross the threshold for what is considered endorsing a Rethug over a Democrat and they would be tombstoned.

Very few people here are defending Hillary on this. What she said absolutely is unacceptable.

[rug]

63. "You Hillbots"? No honest, rational person can read that as an endorsement.

[cooolandrew]

103. Especially when you contratst Dean addressing McCain's ehtics, it's one step back. Here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_-89s0E4S0

[Rosa Luxemburg]

56. this will surely come back to HAUNT her - loving McCain

[rug]

64. Make up your mind. Did she endorse McCain or fuck him?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

67. Darling, foreplay!

[jillan]

57. The Obama people really have their panties in a whirl tonite.

geez - I can't believe all the hate and the lies coming from the supporters of a candidate that idolizes Reagan.

[Lilith Velkor]

114. For real.

[Canuckistanian]

59. Thanks for the moment of sanity

Gee, not much hyperbole in this election, is there?

[writes3000]

61. She negated Obama's record to one speech and trumpted McCain's experience.

It wasn't an unqualified endorsement of McCain. She still thinks she can win.

It was a qualified endorsement of McCain over Obama.

No way around it.

[JVS]

65. She has less experience than Obama

[rug]

77. It's about the same on actual decision-making experience.

But you can't gainsay what experience she acquired by proximity in the White House.

[hfojvt]

68. "height" "complete"

it's a little bit hyperbolic, much like your own OP. What she definitely did was give currency to a talking point that McCain and the RWNM will try to pound away on. Now they can do so and say "even Hillary agrees, McCain has more substance, experience, gravitas than Obama". Is that really gonna help Obama if he becomes the nominee?

Granted, Obama probably has some attacks on Hillary which will probably not help her if the unthinkable happens, but usually they don't drag the opposition candidate in it and heap praise on them.

[bridgit]

69. I say both...

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[ecstatic]

74. She didn't endorse him but she betrayed our party

by putting McCain on a pedestal. This isn't the first time she's complimented McCain. Is she trying to win or what?? Why should voters take a chance on a woman or black man when according to Clinton, McCain is this qualified, respectable guy?

[TwilightGardener]

75. She's very convincing. I will have to take a second look at the old man after all, if

Obama is not the nominee. He's got a lifetime of experience, AND service to his country. He's very qualified to be President, he's got much more experience than Hillary.

[Thrill]

76. Her intentions were clear. Win at all cost. Even if it means tearing down a fellow Democrat

and building up a Repuke.

[Thrill]

79. We've this before from her. When she pissed on John Kerry

[Dogmudgeon]

81. Maybe it's both.

Just maybe.

--p!

[BlackVelvet04]

84. I vote fool AND liar. n/t

[mod mom]

87. Watch this VIDEO of Progressive Icons KO & Rachel Maddow on tonight's Countdown:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/3/203910/3644/635/468212

thanks to beachmom for posting on her thread.

[rug]

92. Has it occurred to you that she was saying she can contest McCain on a more equal footing than Obama

And I'm not really impressed by 43 second clips of Progressive Icons .

[TwilightGardener]

98. She's not McCain's equal. Sorry.

[rug]

101. Feel free to vote for him.

[TwilightGardener]

104. I hope it doesn't come to that, but if Hillary thinks he's qualified...

[rug]

106. Oh, go on, vote for him, you know you really want to.

[TwilightGardener]

110. She gives him her seal of approval--that's hard to dismiss.

[AlinPA]

91. After this, I will vote for Obama (if the "race" lasts until the PA primary).

I was uncertain, now I'm pulling for Obama. (My wife and daughter agree with me)

[rug]

95. Somehow I doubt you were uncertain.

[AlinPA]

99. This put me over the edge. The RI speech where she mocked Obama

started it. The "3 A.M. ad" looked just like a McCain ad, didn't help either.

[rug]

102. So, is it personality or policy that drives your vote?

[AlinPA]

111. Personality? Besides policies, I'm a Democrat, fed up with the

republicans and reject and renounce Clinton's messages that parallel the messages of McCain.

[Emit]

113. When there's not much difference between the two candidate's policies

Personality makes a huge difference.

But, it seems the poster was referring to something more than mere personality, in all sincerity.

[rug]

118. Maybe, although it sounds to me there's a lot of personal dislike.

The brunt of the complaints seem to be about tactics, which can only be equated with character or personality, rather than any substantive policy difference.

I think that calling either of them traitor is ludicrous. Don't you?

[Emit]

120. What I see in Clinton now is such a keen desire to win

that she is willing to undermine the party as a whole. What she said jeopardizes our chances of winning in the GE if Obama is the nominee. To some, I can see, on a broader level, how this could be construed as being a traitor.


It was a poor choice on her part to say this, IMO. What is she going to say if Obama wins the nomination? Will she then turn around and say, "Well, I didn't really mean that experience doesn't matter..."

[zulchzulu]

97. Hillary is a complete failure, a liar and obviously a reason why Bill cheated on her so many times

It has become more than obvious to me that it's not Bill's fault that he would seek the warmth and love from other women after seeing just how disgusting of an individual Hillary Clinton is, as displayed in this campaign. I've come to the conclusion it's not Bill's fault at all. I respect him for at least seeking love where he could find it. He just wanted to feel someone in his arms who has a soul.

[rug]

105. Go back to surfing BarelyLegal.com and clean up your slime trail before you go.

[zulchzulu]

109. Wow. You seem to know that URL pretty well, Uncle Dumbshit

[rug]

116. One good thing that will come out of this primary is your outing.

[zulchzulu]

122. Well gee, Uncle Dumbshit, why do you know that URL so well?

And what the fuck would a Clinton supporter know about honesty in the first place?

[cooolandrew]

100. It's not the reason we are nominating her to compliment McCain...

Barack at the end of the last debate addressed the differences with McCain, but HRC is complimenting McCain it's not normally how you win. I could be wrong.

[Lilith Velkor]

117. Oh that's right - complimenting REAGAN is how you win

:freak:

[ecstatic]

121. Apples and oranges! REAGAN IS DEAD AND YOU KNOW IT!

He is NOT running. Obama would NEVER praise McCain in a way that diminished Clinton. Sheesh... You people might retain some credibility if you'd be honest for once about the ugliness of her comments today.

[Lilith Velkor]

131. Oh, so that's what makes it OK to idolize him.

Seriously, you motherfuckers have lost the plot. So has most of the party, at least you're not alone there.

Clinton was stating facts relevant to the campaign. I wonder if people actually think freaking out about shit like this is going to work on McCain. I hope not.

[rodeodance]

108. Thank you for the SANITY

[gmudem]

115. Endorsement or not

What an incredibly stupid thing to say. She clearly states McCain is more qualified than Obama. Clinton is not fun to watch in desperation mode.

[workinclasszero]

123. She would rather see a Rethug in the white house than a fellow democrat, Obama!

Hillary Clinton is a damn traitor to the party and needs to be kicked out of it!


Hillary stabs democrats in the back!

[emilyg]

127. Just go away.

I have little patience for stupidity.

[workinclasszero]

128. Say hi to ignore

:hi:

[emilyg]

136. My pleasure.

[NoodleBoy]

148. a fellow Obama supporter says: lame.

[McCamy Taylor]

130. Obama is using the clip as an ANTI-HILLARY attack ad. See it at DU on the front page!

So now we have Obama supporters screaming that McCain will use this clip of Hillary in the general election so she is a Democratic traitor--and they have made an attack ad calling her a Democratic traitor on the eve of the Texas and Ohio vote.

This is not as low as Obama's people call the women of New Hampshire racists for trusting a woman with their reproductive rights more than him, but it is getting there.

You know what McCain's people are more likely to do is to show Obama as a dirty Chicago politician who bent and distorted Hillary's words against her in the primary. And they will find a lot of dirt.

[faithfulcitizen]

132. What part of "McCain has a lifetime of experience" & "Obama has a speech" do you not understand?

Only a fool or a liar would defend this. Traitor? yeah, that's sounds about right.

[hulka38]

133. Play dumb if you want to Rug but

the message she is now clearly implying is that she is ready to be commander-in-chief, McCain is ready to be commander-in-chief but Barack is not remotely close to being ready to assume those duties. Coupled with the ads she's been running, she's also implying that a President Obama would endanger our families. It's a theme that she has been hammering home for some time now except the difference this time is she's elevated the Republican nominee to a far superior level than her fellow Democratic candidate and likely nominee.

[hulka38]

135. And it's a damn shame

.

[autorank]

138. Look at the tape. It's the cheapest of all shots, first and foremost, and

it comes across as a strong endorsement of McCain over Obama due to his extensive experience.

Never mind the example Clinton used of the Iraq War vote - a criminal vote by her and McCain knowing
full well that there were no WMD, none (it was all over the public media, you just had to read a bit).

I don't have a dog in this fight. But I'll give you a little hint - she gave McCain great support
in her little statement. She's really not handling this well at all. She either wins or she
has no future beyond being a Senator from NY, which is pretty decent. Alfonse D'Amato milked it for about three terms.

[Raffi Ella]

140. Hillary hit WAY TOO CLOSE to home with this one...

So they turned to the most outrageous most ridiculous charge they could think of to diffuse her incredibly effective and truthful statement.

The truth hurts.

[kentuck]

141. But that's not all that she said...

She went on to say that all that Obama had was a speech from 2002. If you cannot see that in a Republican commercial, then, "my friend", you are blind.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

142. Hillary obviously values experience in the White House...

Suppose for one moment that Obama is the candidate in the GE: Who's she gonna vote for?

[complain jane]

144. Maybe a Repug, just like Michelle Obama may do if HRC gets the nom.

And I doubt either one will actually vote for a Repug, it's all bullshit.

[NoodleBoy]

147. But don't you know-- many DUers think if you ever say anything good about a Republican, then

you're just another Republican shill flak clone right-wing Bushbot.

Remember when some d-bags realized Obama said something about Reagan that wasn't pure hatred? Yeah, the people who were freaking out about that are probably the same ones who are freaking out about this.