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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:21 PM
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HIllary Clinton Speech immediately preceding Iraq War! MUST WATCH(transcript too!)
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:27 PM by Windy
go to the 6:00 minute mark. She begins her speech at that point.

This is important people. It must be viewed and gauged against her statement regarding her war vote during her campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYATbsu2cP8

Transcript and compare and contrast with recent statement

transcription of Ms. Clinton’s remarks:

I admire your willingness to speak out on behalf of of the women and children of Iraq. There is a very easy way to prevent anyone from being put into harm’s way, and that is for Saddam Hussein to disarm. And I have absolutely no belief that he will. I have to say that this is something I have followed for more than a decade.

If he was serious about disarming, he would have been much more forthcoming coming. There may be progress, we may be destroying the Samoud missiles, but there is no accounting for the chemical and biological stocks. And I just respectfully disagree about what the proximate cause of any action that may be taken is.

Now I also believe that for now nearly 20 years the principal reason why women and children in Iraq have suffered is because of his leadership. His not only tyrannical and dictatorial leadership, but his reign of terror against women and children. And it is a — it is a very unfortunate situation for the Iraqi people that they have been so horribly misgoverned for so long.

Now, I do think that there are continuing discussions ongoing that I hope can make some further progress building on the success of the missile destruction program. But that has been the first real compliance, and it was only brought about when the inspectors discovered the missiles — they were not revealed — that their length was longer than what had been prescribed under the resolutions ending the Gulf War.

And the very difficult question for all of us is how does one bring about the disarmament of someone with such a proven track record of a commitment if not an obsession with weapons of mass destruction. And I ended up voting for the resolution after carefully reviewing the information and intelligence that I had available, talking with people whose opinions I trusted, trying to discount political or other factors that I didn’t believe should be in any way a part this decision.

And it is unfortunate that we are at the point of a potential military action to enforce the resolution. That is not my preference, it would be far preferable if we not only had legitimate cooperation from Saddam Hussein and a willingness on his part to disarm and account for his chemical and biological storehouses, but that if we had a much broader alliance and coalition.

But we are in a very difficult position right now. And so I would love to agree with you, but I can’t based on my own understanding and assessment of the situation.

In response to a question from an audience member:

… With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein. I just do not believe that given the attitudes of many people in the world community today that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems were it not for the United States leadership.

And I’m talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo, where my husband could not get a Security Council Resolution to save the the Kosavar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States. And we had to do it alone.

It would have been far preferable if the Russians and others had agreed to do it through the United Nations. They would not.

I’m happy that in the face of such horrible suffering we did act. And so I see it somewhat differently, if you’ll forgive me, from my experience and perspective.

I’m agreeing with you a hundred percent that even though I am willing to take a very difficult step for me to say we have to disarm this man. That position in no way supports the disastrous economic policies that this administration is pursuing. In fact I think that this is the height of irresponsibility.

And it would be far preferable to be more patient and more thoughtful and more willing to try to engender support with respect to Iraq. That is a decision that has to be made in the world community.

Here at home this administration is bankrupting our economy, forcing us to make the worst kinds of false choices between national and homeland security, which they don’t fund. And between security and everything else, which they don’t want to fund.

So you have me a hundred percent on that. And it is absolutely wrong — it is wrong that for the first time in American history we have a President who is talking about leading this country to war and wanting to cut taxes at the same time.

That is the height of cruel, arrogant irresponsibility.

Now compare her comments with those reported by her fans at the New York Times:

Clinton Calls on Bush to ‘Extricate’ U.S. From Iraq

January 28, 2007
By PATRICK HEALY

DAVENPORT, Iowa, Jan. 28 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton called today for President Bush to “extricate our country” from Iraq by the time he leaves office in 2009, and she also said she knew enough about “evil and bad men” to protect the country from its enemies…

One person in the audience pressed Mrs. Clinton on her vote authorizing military action in Iraq in 2002, saying she allowed “the president to go to war,” and asked for specific steps she would take to end the war. She replied by selectively quoting from her speech in 2002 about her vote, saying it was not cast “for pre-emptive war,” but rather as leverage for the president to work diplomatic channels. (She did not mention that she also said at the time that she cast her vote "with conviction.")

Mrs. Clinton also took issue with President Bush’s recent statements that he did not expect to have the troops out of Iraq by the time he leaves office.

“I think it’s the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it — this was his decision to go to war, he went with an ill-conceived plan, an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office,” the senator said this morning…

Hillary Clinton is a liar.

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:27 PM
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1. kick n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:27 PM
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2. K and R
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:28 PM
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3. She is such a vile liar! n/t
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:36 PM
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4. kick n/t
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:39 PM
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5. And here's the worst lie of All!
Read this letter from the neocons to then-President Bill Clinton, in 1998.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Signed by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, John Bolton and other assorted neocons asked
Bill for war with Iraq, but he turned them down.

Then, with Bush as President, these thug neocons return, wanting the same Iraq war.

Hillary knew damn well these sociopath warmongers had been shopping around the Iraq
war for years--because they wrote her husband and asked him for it !!

She knew. She could have stood on the Senate floor and said, "These are the same people
who wanted war with Iraq in 1998. Here is a copy of their letter asking for it. They've
wanted it for years and now they're using Sept 11 and tales of mushroom clouds and WMD
to get their foothold in the Middle East--something they've wanted for years. We
need more time to discuss this serious action."

She could have slowed down our 'rush to war.' She could have, at the very least, instilled
some doubt and raised some important questions.

She said NOTHING. She did NOTHING. She voted for the Iraq war.

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:44 PM
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6. And for all of these reaons, I cannot vote for Mrs. Clinton! n/t
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:47 PM
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8. A new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. Hmmm...
Wonder what that would be? We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests(OIL) of the U.S. and our friends(ELITE BANKERS) and allies(E.U.) around the world.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:46 PM
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7. Foolishness. I saw nothing in there that would turn me off...
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:46 PM by Stand and Fight
Except for how rude and childish the Cold Pink members acted toward the end. Idiotic.

Edited to add: NOT RECOMMENDED.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:52 PM
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10. I don't give a damn about Code Pink. Listen to Clinton's speech.
And think of the men and women in uniform who have fought and died in Iraq and lost limbs!

I take this personally as I wore the uniform!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:10 PM
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17. I don't give a damn about Cold Pink either. Clinton's speech is realistic in my book.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:12 PM by Stand and Fight
I don't agree with the way this is being slanted.

You take this personally, do you? Well, so do I. I got out in 2004 after 5 years active duty in the Army. Decided I'd had enough of hearing right-wing talking points spewed by my fellow soldiers. As a buck sergeant with my own squad, I knew that I could not give the Army my best when I didn't believe in the mission.

EDIT TO ADD:

I have also lost several friends in this conflict. Men whom were both senior to me and junior when I was stationed at both Fort Lewis, WA. So, trust me... This is very, very personal, and I'm more for Hillary Clinton because of it. (However, my candidate of choice was and remains John Edwards.)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:47 PM
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9. Still beating that dead horse???
:eyes:
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:54 PM
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11. If you don't see that there is a problem with her actions, I really question your motives in voting
for her.

Is it about her vagina?


As a woman, my ancestors fought to gain the right to vote to judge someone by what is between their ears and not what is between their legs!!!!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:02 PM
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14. How insulting!!!!
Hillary is a senator from NY, remember NY? As someone who was at the North Tower on that fateful day and saw more people die than I want to ever see again, I understand her vote and know how much she agonized over it. Where were you on that day to make such harsh judgments?


:thumbsdown:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:19 PM
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19. you mean the vote to go to war against iraq ?
the country that had no links to 9-11? her husband told the bush guys that it was bin laden but she voted to go to war with who? saudi arabia who financed the saudi hijackers? no it was iraq.

she voted to go to iraq and she knew that 9-11 had nothing to do with iraq.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:49 PM
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21. She stated that there was never a 9/11 connection.
But Saddam Hussein with Biological chemical nuclear weapons would pose a greater threat than 9/11.
She thought it was necessary and believed Bushs lies.
Bush lied people died.



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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:55 PM
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12. No I think its beating the 4000 dead soldiers, you know our family...
members do mean something and should not be forgotten. Maybe you feel it would be ok to give your childrens lives for oil but not me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:57 PM
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13. This should permanently disqualify her
I do not understand why any war protester is supporting her.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:06 PM
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15. Jesus, Hillary, why don't you just re-register as a Pubbie so you can...
...be on the ticket as the VP to John "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain.

Disgusting.....:puke:
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:07 PM
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16. Rather Negative aren't we.Which statements do you see as conflicting?
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:27 PM by MojoMojoMojo
I assume this video is right before the invasion.
Do these statements conflict with her earlier 2002 floor statement?


Please quote exactly which points you are referring to as I dont see it yet.
She pushed for the return of the inspectors.She believed the fake intelligence reports.She was scammed by Bush.

BTW Cant you at least commend her for meeting with Code Pink?

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:12 PM
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18. "That is the height of cruel, arrogant irresponsibility."
i would say that her statement can be applied to her
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:43 PM
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20. Why would she even bother to speak to Code Pink is she wasnt convinced of the existence of WMDs
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:54 PM by MojoMojoMojo
They are from California.Not even her constituents.
I admire Hillary for seeing them .I dont fault her for her being fooled by the false intelligence.
But I might if someone can point out the quotes which show she is lying.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:53 PM
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22. Obama stated he would bomb Iran.Wheres your outrage?
Theres no 9/11 connection to Iran.
Why is Obamas saber rattling considered OK?
But Hillary is evil, even though she proposed diplomacy and inspections?
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