BREAKING: Rachel Maddow on Countdown: "Hillary angling to be John McCain's VP"

[DesEtoiles]

That's why Hillary endorsed McCain for president over Obama earlier today.

[anonymous171]

1. That's one experienced ticket!

[surfermaw]

29. Bull CRAP and you know what CRAP m eans don't you

[KoKo]

45. Poster puts out BOLD STATEMENT...but NO LINK for OUTRAGEOUS COMMENT!

Amazing...In the old days ...would have been "torn to shreds" for "NO LINK!"

POS...

[MzShellG]

65. I saw that and had the same thought. HRC and Leiberman seems two peas in a pod.....

When is she gonna switch parties?

[BobbyVan]

88. GARBAGE, total Obama-propaganda n/t

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

2. Makes about as much sense as any other explanation

[DUyellow]

3. huh?

[jefferson_dem]

Here -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=100452&mesg_id=100452

[hedgehog]

4. kick and rec!

[Kaylee]

5. That would help me understand here endorsement of McCain over

Obama.

[grantcart]

8. john and I have 20 years of experience and Obama made a speech

[K Gardner]

10. No, not rhetorical. She said McCain is ready to lead, Obama is not.

[susankh4]

82. Truth sucks, eh?

[KoKo]

47. You believe...with NO LINK to statement? YOU TRUST...but don't VERIFY?

:eyes:

[Windy]

54. It was on Keith O. My god KoKo01, pay attention!

There is also a video.
Others have posted a link here.

[KoKo]

57. REALLY...then QUOTE IT!

[my2sense]

Calling Her Out

I was happy to see her call Hillary on her nonsense. Hillary obviously doesn't give a dayum about the party. :mad:

[eShirl]

6. that's what I thought, too

(posted in one of the many threads earlier)

[flpoljunkie]

7. Looks like Rachel is done trying to bend over backwards to be fair to Hillary Clinton. Apparently,

this was the last straw.

[StevieM]

15. Maddow has been consistently unfair to Hillary. So have KO and Matthews.

NBC=The National Barack Company

Steve

[RamboLiberal]

21. You people are sounding more and more like koolaid drinking

Freepers!

I never expected to see that in Democrats. Both you and Hillary are a big disappointment to this Dem!

[StevieM]

37. Well then I guess you won't be wanting my vote in November. And you might not get it (eom)

x

[burythehatchet]

59. What's RamboLiberal running for? n/t

[Windy]

56. As with Bushies, HRC could shoot someone at point blank range and they would rationalize it! n/t

[Exilednight]

42. Maddows has defended Hillary all the way down the spiral. I found it almost sickening.

[AntiFascist]

68. And, what about GE's SNL?

sniff, sniff... :cry:

[K Gardner]

9. Olbermann on Clinton, after Maddow's Comment: "Unbelievable."

Indeed, I never thought I'd live to see the day.

[jlake]

11. Rachel is shilling for Obama - trying to make Clinton look like a turncoat.

Can't believe y'all are buying it!

[jmg257]

14. Seems Clinton is doing a pretty good job all on her own.

[Alhena]

18. Trying to make her look like one??? She is one!!!!

[peacebird]

33. jlake is using the "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" defense

:eyes:

sorry - I've seen the video. Hillary is clearly trying to damage Obama (fair enough in an election) BUT she also put the Republican McCain ABOVE her rival for the nomination. THAT is not acceptable.

[jlake]

43. Even if theat were to be true - it doesn't mean she is angling to be McCain's VP

....Rachel Maddow is a lying Obama shill.

[peacebird]

63. LOL! so you run from the misquoting, and stand firm on HRC isn't seeking the VP spot from McCain

Face it - you got the quotes wrong, & in the wrong order - I am not accusing you of doing it intentionally but after it was pointed out you resorted to "it doesn't mean she's angling to be McCain's VP" instead of admitting that your post was inacurate?

:eyes:

[DearAbby]

66. everyone is shilling according to you

yet I dont see you responding to the post. What say you about Senator Clinton's latest statement? It looks and sounds fairly damning.

[jlake]

95. Clinton stated a fact. She did not endorse McCain.

And remember in 2000 & 2004 when everyone WAS shilling for Bush..... I see it again.

[DearAbby]

109. I wont debate if it were intentional or unintentional

the statement was a clear endorcement of McCain's experience over Obama's speechifying. It was a bad statement from Clinton either way.

[susankh4]

84. Good point.

And Hill is the Yellowest Dem Dog you'll ever meet. She would not do anything to harm the party she has worked her whole life for.

(Altho, I have to admit... a McCain/Clinton ticket is intriguing.)

[redqueen]

91. "a McCain/Clinton ticket is intriguing"

Are you out of your everlovin mind?

:wtf:

[susankh4]

99. If I am not mistaken...

there was talk of a Kerry/ McCain ticket a few years back.

Those sticky, sticky middle of the road moderates are so hard to polarize....

[redqueen]

100. There was? Here on this board?

I think you're very, deeply confused.

Are you sure you're on the right board?

[BeyondGeography]

12. Rachel Maddow for first woman President

[KoKo]

REALLY? You believe what you say?

:eyes: Amazing!

[malik flavors]

13. Yep, I just saw this. They were both speechless.

[dempartisan23]

16. WTF??

will be be stupid enough to vote for mccain tomorrow??

[Cha]

17. hilary fucking BLEW it Big Time in October 2002

and there's nothing she can do to take back her political expediency at the time except do some more damage with political expediencies now. We'll see who buys her shit now.

[Mojambo]

19. Did Hillary really endorse McCain over Obama?

If so, that is beyond the pale.

Liebermanesque.

[knight_of_the_star]

24. Can someone get a source or link for this statement?

This is a serious allegation, can someone provide proof please?

[peacebird]

40. look in the video section of DU - it was number 1 there last I checked

A video of Hillary saying she had experience, and Senator McCain had experience - but Obama had "a speech in 2002"

[IndyOp]

25. No, Hillary didn't endorse McCain. My reading of her comment was that she

believed she would be a stronger contender against McCain in the General because McCain will be perceived as having great experience and she can compete with that, but (in her opinion) Obama cannot.

That was my take... :shrug:

[LostinVA]

41. That was any reasonable person's take on it -- she did not endorse McCain

[leftynyc]

80. That's because you're a normal

and sane person. It's only those who hate Hillary that see nefarious motives for all her actions. Pretty pathetic on their part.

[marions ghost]

85. maybe that's "what she meant"

but it's not what she said.

Hillary selects her words ve-ry careful-ly. Unless she formally retracts this statement, she will be held fully responsible for it. Doubtful that she'd risk any damage control. She could dig herself in deeper.

It was political betrayal to --even slightly-- suggest ANY kind of alliance or similarity to John McCain in comparison to Obama. This was no gaff or mis-statement.

Rachel Maddow was right to heavily criticize this performance and speculate on what ulterior motives might be there.

[RamboLiberal]

20. Guess Rachel Maddow is not on DU Clintonites Sh*t List

That's what I like about KO and Rachel - they speak truth to power no matter who it is. I have no doubts if Obama did this both of them would've called him on it as well.

But there are some here "Who can't handle the truth!"

[anamandujano]

27. They both get paid by GE and want the weakest candidate to run

against whatever Repuke is running at that time, Obama.

Also, Hillary has been making them look like @ss; they keep on bashing and she keeps on running. She is dead even, despite their constant slurs.

[blonndee]

30. Why, then, are FOX and CNN shilling for Shillary?

You think they see Shillary as the STRONGEST Democratic candidate? :freak:

[Armstead]

48. You obviously don;t know much about Rachel Maddow

She can be paid but she can't be bought.

[KoKo]

50. Well...she'd be the FIRST to be so "Pure!"

:rofl:

[Armstead]

Not pure but definetly principled

Actually I like that phrase, "can be paid but can;t be bought." I came up with it myself. :)

[DearAbby]

69. I cant believe how people have so quickly

turned against Olberman and Rachel, good lord...RACHEL?? KEITH??? You are willing to throw Olberman and Rachel and the party itself under the bus, for your canidate...step back, breathe...and look at this with a clear head.

[Birthmark]

22. Hillary endorsed McCain?

Where?

Difficulty: Post a full, in context endorsement.

[DesEtoiles]

23. Hillary went too far this time.

[City Lights]

26. K&R

Hillary's comments today were inexcusable.

She endorsed McCain over herself today too. She listed McCain's qualification first, hers second, and Obama's third. :crazy:

[LSparkle]

36. BINGO! Talk about not helping yourself ...

If the people want experience alone, they're going to go for the LONGEST-SERVING Senator ... and that ain't you, girl.

[RamboLiberal]

38. Well if she did that - then let's just elect McCain

After all if experience counts old John McCain has boat loads in government! And he's even had experience in a crisis. (Not the red phone kind - speaking of his service)

[Berry Cool]

28. Keith and Rachel tell the truth

and their reward is to get called shills by some people.

[tritsofme]

31. Who is Rachel Maddow and why does anything she says qualify as "breaking"?

nt

[mucifer]

39. Rachel is a Rhodes Scholar in political science

she has her own radio show on airamerica.com check it out. She is also out as a lesbian.

[tritsofme]

44. Lots of talking heads have fancy credentials on their resume.

I guess I just don't think what she said is so incredibly significant that its "breaking"

[KoKo]

53. Not all "Rhodes Scholars" are people who should be trusted, though...

Some are very misguided folks...especially when they put out statements like this OP says they made. I'll bet that Rachel (as a Rhodes Scholar) didn't say what this OP said she did because he/she didn't even do the work to VERIFY by posting a link to the transcript.

But, hey! In Bush America Lies and lacking "verification" is what everyone knows ...so why shouldn't "some folks" capitalize on the OPPORTUNITY to know that you can say something OUTRAGEOUS...and NO ONE WILL EVEN FACT CHECK YOUR STATEMENT ...until SO LATE that the AUDIENCE WILL HAVE FORGOTTEN!

:puke: for MEDIA on the LEFT ...seeming to become as corrupt as the "MEDIA ON THE RIGHT!"

[mucifer]

64. She is a commentator. She was outraged that Hillary would attack a

member of her own party that way and praise a man like mccain who could be our next president.

[Major Hogwash]

86. She's extremely smart. Her analysis was right on the money.

But, I keep forgetting, they hate KO nowadays.

[Ichingcarpenter]

46. She's on Fox news, you never knew that?

I thought you would know that being an avid viewer




:sarcasm:

[tritsofme]

51. So this whole thread is people being in a tizzy over a Fox News commentator?

Strange times indeed.

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. No Clinton's support of McCain

[redqueen]

93. Uh, she was on Air America before they deigned to let her on FOX.

And I for one am glad to have at least one liberal commentator who can hold her own allowed on that network.

[Major Hogwash]

81. She's a really cute radio host from Air America and 1 of the smartest women pundits out there.

She's been very good at reporting what is actually being said and I have a huge crush on her!

So there!

[soleft]

96. If you want to see a lot of great commentary

Check out her Campaign Asylum videos on youtube.

[JVS]

32. LOL this is just a ridiculous circus now.

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. Pastor Hagee can be their foreign policy advisor.

since McCain is so good.

[KoKo]

55. He's working on that...but "Huckabee" is his REAL CANDIDATE...McCain is only the Default!

[bigbrother05]

58. ...

:rofl:

[HooptieWagon]

35. Oh geesh, what's next? RNC keynote address?

[merh]

60. She might challenge Matthews to a duel.

:crazy:

What she said was disgusting, she should be ashamed of herself.

[JerseygirlCT]

49. She's going to have to duke it out with Joey L. for that nt

[grassfed]

61. perfect fit

[demo dutch]

62. No balanced report from KO anymore! Both are way to bias!!!!!!!!!

Rachael and Keith haven't done anyhting but piss on Hillary for weeks! It's so obvious It's like watching FOX-style by lefties

[Duppers]

77. I feel the same way. Only stacking experience against experience

In the general election, McCain will be throwing HIS experience at the voters and HRC was telling voters that only she can stack experience against experience and Obama cannot.

JesusH.Christ! That was a low blow on Maddow's part. She's lost all credibility with me now.

'Run with McCain,' my ass!!! Pleeeeeeeeaze!!

Hillary is done tomorrow anyway, so put those carving knives away.



I support Obama because he opposed that fucking war, but I cannot stand these FauxNoise tactics I am seeing on Countdown and here at DU.

[New Dawn]

67. She will never get progressive votes

If she steals the the nomination, she can expect to lose the general election by a large margin.

[KoKo]

73. Who knows what she will do...

I'm turned off by them both...but the Obama supporters on DU are so vile they've turned me towards Hillary as the "underdog." I like underdogs... I think she deserves to be the "underdog" for how she's been treated by rabid attack dogs who've turned folks off to a candidate who actually has a decent message and has energized many voters. BUT...the folks here on DU who support him are so vile...that one has to hold one's nose to deal with it. And...it's sad because so many are long time DU'ers who've been here as long or longer than I have. I wonder if they got "taken over" by some "pods" of if they were always that way...and somehow I missed it all these years. Silly me...I probably have cucumber sprouts growing outta's my head. :eyes:

[meow mix]

70. k&r

[Kablooie]

71. I don't want Hillary but this has to be slander!

She's from Air America so I'm sure it's some crazy tactic to sink Hillary.

I have a hard time listening to Air America because they seem just as biased as Fox but in the opposite direction.

I don't want ANY biased news. I want the truth so I can make an informed decision. Not be told what to think.

[NastyRiffraff]

72. Rachel has gone off the deep end...

..if indeed she was serious. If she was, this is crackpot territory. Rachel knows damn well Hillary ain't gonna be McCain's VP. If anything, that would be Leiberman.

[Duppers]

79. TOTALLY AGREE!

What people want to believe here too is outrageous!

HRC was trying to tell voters that only she can stack experience against experience and Obama cannot. It was one of her last ditch efforts to persuade voters.

Maddow's lost all credibility with me now.

Run with McCain, my ass!!! Pleeeeeeeeaze!!

Hillary is done tomorrow anyway, so put those carving knives away. The two-way, blind venom here on DU is almost as sickening as FauxNoise.

[LibertyorDeath]

74. Hillary is Liberman in drag at this point DLC= Rethug lite

[DesEtoiles]

76. Yes, if Hillary defects over to the GOP there is NO coming back.

[Ishoutandscream2]

89. Outstanding picture by the way

[RetroLounge]

75. You're pretty funny

:rofl:

RL

[LeftCoast]

78. This is a complete fabrication. There was NO endorsement.

[susankh4]

83. Isn't it true that many dems

tried to get Mr. McCain to run with John Kerry? I think I may have signed a petition to this effect.....

[LostinVA]

87. There was no endorsement and this is bullshit

[snooper2]

90. Wal-Mart

would be happy


:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[MyNameGoesHere]

92. Did they almost piss their pants when they were spewing such

bile from their mouths? I bet Kiethy boy had a raging hard on because they were having a non-bias slime session again. :puke:

These slime on MSNBC have become no better than the faux news that they are SUPPOSED to be better than. KO you are a sham, go back to calling ball games.

[Deep13]

94. You are a liar.

She did not endorse McC and there is no evidence to suggest she consider or be offered that position. But hey, she's in Obama's way and must be crushed. Obama uber alles, I guess.

[Political Heretic]

97. That's NOT what she said.

[VolcanoJen]

98. RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT

BREAKING BREAKING BREAKING
MUST CREDIT VOLCANOJEN

MCCAIN-CLINTON TICKET REACTION

FREEPER HEADS EXPLODING ACROSS AMERICA... VERY MESSY... CLEANING CREWS ON SCENE
DEVELOPING...

BREAKING BREAKING BREAKING

[onenote]

101. If Rachel believes that, she's a fool. And if you believe Rachel....

well, it goes without saying, doesn't it.

I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm sick of this nonsense about Clinton endorsing McCain over Obama (she didn't) and sick of uninformed, stupid posts that suggest Clinton is going to be McCain's VP. ANyone who has spent five minutes following politics would know how ridiculous that assertion is. So anyone who makes that assertion and who has spent more than five minutes following politics -- which I assume includes both the OP and Rachel Maddow -- is pursuing a bullshit agenda that deserves to be condemned no matter who one is supporting for the Democratic nomination.

[immoderate]

102. Rachel didn't say that. And Hillary's not auditioning for McCain's VP. And you are all nuts!

This has sunk to the level of people interpreting scripture to find revealed prophesy.

All this spinning is getting me dizzy. Hillary did not endorse McCain. However, as pointed out by Rachel, her inartful statement will be spun by Republicans as an endorsement. Fat chance she will be chosen or run with McCain. You are all arguing over hyperbolic hypotheticals.

--IMM

[meow mix]

104. Heres the Video of Hillary Backstabbing millions of Dems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw&eurl=

[immoderate]

108. Uh-huh. But I don't see that as an endorsement.

You have to buy into the experience argument, which I don't. (Cheney and Rumsfeld have lots of experience.) She is trying to paint her opponent as not belonging in the race, and as I said, this shot was inartful, because of how it would be spun. Any attack on Obama will be read the same way.

There is no preparation for being president, including being president. Presidents who are bad, do not get better in their second term. They may become better politicians, but that is not the same thing.

--IMM

[Occam Bandage]

103. I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

I hope.

[yardwork]

105. Laugh. Out. Loud.

And Hillary Clinton did not "endorse" John McCain for president today.

[meow mix]

106. What she did was Disgusting... Spin it how you want shes a Traitor against Dems

:puke:

[yardwork]

107. Don't you think that you are overreacting just a teensy bit?

Disgusting is our invasion and occupation of Iraq. Treason is outing Valerie Plame.

What Hillary did was a political ploy. Personally, I think it was ill-conceived and will backfire on her. But it doesn't reach the level of disgusting and treason. Please.

[Downtown Hound]

110. There is no way in hell that would ever happen

I'm no Hillary fan but let's just ponder this for a minute. Can you imagine what having Hillary as a running mate would do to McLame's standing in his own party, which is already on shaky ground with conservatives? And the Clintons? Forget it. They'd be done with in the eyes of Democrats. Please, the plenty of reasons to criticize Hillary, especially for those awful comments she made yesterday. But it will be a cold day in hell that she and McLame ever run together.

[DawgHouse]

111. Oh good grief.