Hillary has lost, and it's over. Give it up

[x-g.o.p.er]

No matter what happens tomorrow, Obama will be the winner. He will win at least two primaries in which he was over 20 points behind in as late as two weeks ago. It will be obvious that she can't win the nomination, and hopefully she will concede and unite the party.

HRC can spin this up, down, backwards, and forwards, but the bottom line is she was so confident that she would have had the nomination wrapped up by now, she didn't even bother to set up field offices in Ohio and Texas.

Her campaign has had their collective asses handed to them since Iowa, and Obama has been on the offensive since then as well. Every firewall she set up and/or declared got burned through, she has mismanaged her money so bad she had to loan herself 5 million, she has seen 20 point leads in every single state evaporate, and now team HRC is going to move the goalposts to PA to continue this sophistry and put a larger fissure in the party, all to satisfy her meglomanical quest for the presidency.

Her campaign has been frightfully incompetent, and she deserves what's happening to her because of it. The only way she can wrest the nomination from Obama at this point is by suing to seat the FL and MI delegations, and hoping that she can corral more superdelegates than he can.

If she sues, she pisses off a fair amount of the base, and if she ges more superdelegates, people will cry fix. Even if she wins, she loses, she fractures the party and opens up the door for McCain.

Is that what you HRC supporters really want? Really?

[sniffa]

1. HRC supporters need to move on

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4848697

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. It Takes A Total Yahoo To Turn The Grieving Process Into A Punch Line

~

[hell-bent]

15. Yes, we should.

Right on to the next states including the big prize, Pennsylvania. Then, Obama can not win with enough votes. So sorry.

[sniffa]

17. As much as it pains me to see you all grieve for so long

I have a guilty pleasure fantasy that Hillary stays in until at least Puerto Rico, so she can continue to embarrass herself and her husband's legacy.

That being said, I hope your journey through the next 4 stages aren't that painful. :hug:

[Mme. Defarge]

2. The Democratic Party Leadership

needs to reel her in. NOW!

[JKaiser]

3. Obama has lost, and it's over. Give it up!

[LSparkle]

4. She has the lead until she gets on the ground in the state

then it slips away. Says something about how well she's campaigning ...

[x-g.o.p.er]

5. Great point. Or,

you could say she has a sizeable lead until Obama shows up to campaign there, which could be a reflection of how he's being received. Probably a little of both...

[Beausoir]

6. Here's a thought...let's count the votes! Shall we? Hmmmm?

[Cant trust em]

8. I'm for Obama, but you're right

Momentum don't mean shit. Let's just get on with the vote and save the trash talk for after it's over. Clinton isn't going to drop out nor should she.

[anigbrowl]

12. Every time we've done that already HRC supporters offer some argument about why 'it doesn't count'

The fact is that she's lost 11 contests in a row and you guys can't handle it. Well, I guess reality will set in for you sooner or later.

[FogerRox]

16. It was over super tuesday

[Dogmudgeon]

7. The pressure is getting to you, isn't it?

Two days of slightly negative news for Obama, and you're screaming for her to stop.

This is politics. Obama will NEVER have it any easier than this. Hillary is a sparring partner compared to what is coming.

Count on it.

--p!

[x-g.o.p.er]

19. There's no pressure on me at all.

All the pressure is on the candidates. If Obama wins the nomination, I vote for him with a smile on my face. If HRC wins the nomination, I vote for her.

I just want the in-fighting to end, and I think HRC needs to give up the ghost.

[bigbrother05]

10. I feel really good about tomorrow

Obama has alot of good people working for him, alot of respected Senators backing him. More delegates
I saw an old Political friend announce Michelle today, in East Texas, and she is relentless, talk about
getting out the vote.

[Auntie Bush]

11. Aren't you being a little arrogant? Typical BO supporter.

[x-g.o.p.er]

18. No, it's simple math.

She can't overtake him in total pledged delegates unless she wins 65% of the popular vote in the remaining primaries.

The chances of that happening are about as close to zero as you can get, and if Obama wins either Texas or Ohio, the super delegate trickle from HRC will, by all accounts, become a flood.

It's not arrogance, it's bewilderment.

Bewilderment that the only person who can't see that she can't win is the candidate herself.

[DeepBlueC]

13. Frankly, what pisses me off is crap like this

I like (or liked) both of these people but we ourselves have tainted them both.In this climate, I regret that John McCain may be able to win.

[rodeofan]

14. STINKY POST ~~ I DONT LIKE IT

no REC from me ~

[zulchzulu]

20. Handy Guide for Hillary Clinton Supporters Dealing With Her Inevitable Withdrawal Speech

As Hillary's campaign ends shortly, it is best to deal with the stages of grief from seeing a candidate who seemed to have it all in her hands and lost it through her own actions. Yes, they were deceptive and myopic. There were unprecedented moments where Hillary Clinton used her opponent's kindergarten paper about wanting to be President as an issue. There were times where she and her surrogates tried to make a false issue of an opponent being a Muslim, linked to a terrorist group, misusing his statements to attempt to cover her own tragic flaws. There are many more numerous flaws in the campaign that will be discussed for years to come as the autopsy of her failed campaign is examined.

Then there was the usage of her husband's record to act like it was hers, unless the issues became uncomfortable or pointed to her own husband's legacy as a closet Republican. Naturally, it was difficult for Hillary to get over the perception that her husband had openly cheated on her throughout their career together and had publically humiliated her internationally with his inability to control his zest for power and sexual conquest with woman nearly half his age.

We feel sorry for her now as she reflects on how dire her campaign has gone and how she will again be publicly seen as a loser, a has-been, a failure and, as the last fumes of her campaign extinguish, her poor judgment and political sour grapes as the once inevitable ship thuds into the shore beach and falls into splinters.

One way of dealing with this grief is by Hillary supporters reading (you can cry if you want) this passage:

"The tragedies that now blacken and darken the very air of heaven for us will sink into their places in a scheme so august, so magnificent, so joyful, that we shall laugh for wonder and delight."

- Authur Christopher Bacon

You must allow yourself to feel feelings, and accept the fact that you are normal if you are engaging in any of these behaviors and signs of loss for your doomed candidate. You need to allow yourself time to grieve because it is an important aspect in your healing.

If you feel the feelings and work through them, your grief will lessen, and in time, fade. The memories will always remain as sweet memories in the case of a candidacy that ultimately failed, very often bittersweet.

If you are severely depressed for too long a time, if you think about ending your life, or if you become so incapacitated that you can't function day after day, you need to seek professional help until you are better able to deal with your grief.

Seeking help is not a sign of weakness; rather, it is a sign that you want to live and move on with your life.

Some of the symptoms when dealing with Hillary Clinton dropping out include:

• Feel physically drained
  
• Out of emotional control - feel good one minute; in the pits the next
  
• Can't eat - food makes you sick. People tend to lose up to 40 pounds while grieving
  
• Susceptible to illnesses
  
• "Zombie Effect" feelings shut down due to your body's natural coping mechanism
  
• Brain is scrambled; can't think clearly or remember things
  
• Cry continuously
  
• Can't cry -- bottle it up (it will come out years later)
  
• Drink too much
  
• Take too many drugs
  
• Can't sleep at night
  
• Take naps frequently and are constantly tired
  
• Sigh a lot
  
• Lose interest in work; house; physical appearance
  
• Neglect personal hygiene (don't brush teeth, take regular baths, or wash hair very often)
  
• Fantasize about the Clinton years
  
• Suffer from extreme loneliness
  
• Have a huge hole in your heart and soul
  
• Think you will never recover from your loss
  
• Suffer from severe depression
  
• See no reason to exist

Some of the tasks towards dealing with Hillary Clinton dropping out include:
You must accept the reality of your loss. You must talk about the loss until you accept it. The more you talk about it, the more you will realize that the loss is real -- that Hillary Clinton really has dropped out.

Don't let Mark Penn, James Carville, Bill Clinton and the others who advised Hillary Clinton's ill-advised campaign drag you down. Don't let them keep you weak and dependent upon them. Don't let yourself grieve for too long. We all have the strength to overcome. You can do it. You can make a new and meaningful life for yourself. So, get one with it. As the old cliché goes, "Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life."

Finally, read these words and take it all one day at a time:

"The tears happen. Endure, grieve, and move on. The only person who is with our entire life is ourselves. LIVE while you are alive."

Good luck in your loss and grief.