3/2/08 Hillary +16 in Ohio, Columbus Dispatch

[Deep13]

I apologize if this is a dupe. I just heard it on the radio.

I understand that this poll was by mail. While it may not represent a cross section of voters, it may reflect a cross-section of really motivated voters. She is especially strong among declared Democrats.

So take heart. The plus-sized-but-still-attractive operatic singer has not started warming up yet. Frankly, I consider this primary in part to be a referendum on the manager model of president versus the inspirational and possibly imperial model of the presidency.

Oddly, these same folks think O has a better chance in the fall against McC. They were not stating a preference here, but only a prediction.

Also, received two items of "literature" (the term for the printed crap that gets mailed or stuck in our doors) for HC, none for O. One was completely positive and ostensibly sent as a message from Gov. Strickland. The second was critcal of O.

Here's the link.
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/02/POLL02.ART_ART_03-02-08_A1_599GNRO.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

[GarbagemanLB]

1. I heard Obama is +25 in Texas. No link, but I heard it. Just trust me.

[JimGinPA]

9. LOL

[durrrty libby]

13. "Just trust me." Garbage in Garbage out

[susankh4]

24. She provided the link

Don't you read well?

[thereismore]

2. You know that the Dispatch is the Cheney lovers' paper in OH? nt

[AX10]

12. Most of the "Cheney loving" papers endorsed Obama.

[susankh4]

25. Ya got that right!

The Cincy Enquire started on us early. Trying to convince us that Hill was gonna be beat by "whoever" they nominated.

Then they endorsed Obama.

They have the goods on Barack... and they are waiting, just waiting... to spring 'em on us.

[NJSecularist]

3. About 75% of the poll was conducted to voters above the age of 60

That tells you all you need to know about the poll. It's been debunked over the last day.

[OzarkDem]

5. Got a link to prove that?

[NJSecularist]

10. Here.

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/02/POLL02.ART_ART_03-02-08_A1_599GNRO.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

[mohc]

15. And it states only among Democrats

And that its 9% not 16%. It is kind of difficult to take this poll seriously.

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. That's a good point. If Democrats were choosing the Democratic nominee...

... it might be a different kettle of fish.

[susankh4]

26. Yeah....

That'd be a kettle I'd be in for the long haul on.

[MadBadger]

6. 84% of the poll was over 45.

[anonymous171]

4. By mai!?

That's kinda unreliable...

[Hepburn]

7. Riaaaaaaaaaaaaaght!!

LMBO...Hill by 16 points...sure. BTW: If you truly believe that, I gotta bridge....

:rofl:

[Dinger]

8. Good News Indeed!

I would like a link too. It helps.

[Jersey Devil]

11. I call bullshit - edited

Clinton leads by an average of about 5 points when the newest surveys are combined. But those results range from a 12-point margin from Suffolk University to a 2-point edge for Sen. Barack Obama in the Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby assessment.

The final Dispatch Poll showed Clinton leading by high single digits if only registered Democrats are included.

The Ohio Poll, conducted by the University of Cincinnati’s Institute for Policy Research, this morning has Clinton leading by 9 points.

Clinton’s lead has shrunk to 4 points in a new Quinnipiac Poll. She essentially is losing a point a day to Obama in the Connecticut university’s survey. Clinton was up by 21 points Feb. 14 and 11 points a week ago.

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/03/last_polls.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

[zulchzulu]

14. I heard Hillary is actually Bill...some people say...

:boring:

[Deep13]

16. Actually I had a link but forgot to post it.

As a side note, how does citing Columbus Dispatch with the date constitute less proof than a website link?

[avrdream]

I'm going to use that phrase of yours:

"The plus-sized-but-still-attractive operatic singer has not started warming up yet."

Too good.

[avrdream]

17. I'm going to use that phrase of yours:

"The plus-sized-but-still-attractive operatic singer has not started warming up yet."

Too good.

[bicentennial_baby]

18. Voluntary response polls are statistically bogus

:)

[Deep13]

19. Unsupported declarations are factually bogus. nt

[bicentennial_baby]

20. Er, Stats 101?

A mailed in poll is a voluntary response poll, and therefore completely biased. :)

[femrap]

23. As opposed to a poll taken with a gun to one's head?

[femrap]

22. That's good news....

that mailed Dispatch poll has been very accurate in the past.

Thank you for the 'plus-sized-but-still-attractive'....made me smile:-)