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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:36 PM
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Rush Limbaugh led off his show with a "vote Hillary" appeal ...
which is just fine with me as an Obama supporter. I don't think that many voters will heed his words (he sure didn't influence the Republican primaries- he was railing against McCain every day), and he will help Obama among Democratic superdelegates after Tuesday.

Assuming Hillary does well tomorrow as expected, the superdelegates rallying behind Obama is the only way the Democratic party can get a presumptive nominee before the August convention. And for Hillary to win at the convention, she will have to do so in a scorched earth manner- using superdelegates to override the will of the voters. That would destroy the party, and Hillary can offer no peaceful means for her to even conceivably win the nomination. Even assuming she does well in Pennsylvania, the next week we'll have the North Carolina and Indiana primaries and Obama is up by double digits in the polls there. And he will get big wins in Wyoming and Mississippi even before Pennsylvania.

That's why the superdelegates need to rally behind Obama after Tuesday, and I can't think of any way to better rally Democrats into taking a certain action than to have Rush Limbaugh shilling for Hillary and advocating a long-drawn out campaign. He said today on this show "this is great- liberals are destroying each other. Let's make sure it continues." Well, the only people who can stop it from continuing, assuming Hillary does well but not great tomorrow, are the superdelegates.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:39 PM
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1. Hillary as a nominee would be better for his ratings....
They all hate her and would have a good old itme bashing her. Obama would be a bit more problematic.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:40 PM
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2. Keep your eyes on the prize and don't worry about what "they" do.
There is never any rhyme or reason to it, however, in this case I think this is the culmination of a two-decade war with the Clintons in a you reap what you sow kind of way.

A President Obama will put an end to the Clinton's triangulating style of politics and then we can begin the next great chapter in the American story with three words that ring out from coast to coast, from sea to shining sea, yes we can.

Cast your doubts behind you and pull up your socks. It's go time.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:44 PM
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3. Does that not tell you everything you need to know?! . . .
As Bill Richardson said the other day, we need to coalesce around the candidate leading after Tuesday. Everyone knows that's going to be Obama. It's either that, or go into the GE wounded regardless of who's our candidate.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:47 PM
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13. It tells me that Lush is a windbag with an overinflated view of his own...
...influence.

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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:53 PM
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15. I don't disagree with that. . .
Aside from believing Obama is stronger on the issues that matter to Democrats, you have to admit he's less of a target than Hillary would be for Swiftboat-like tactics and would be better at fending off such attacks than Hillary. Look at how Obama has deflected Hillary's inner-Rovian assaults. I think Limpbaugh sees the same tactical advantages in imploring Rethugs to cross party lines to vote for Hillary. That's all I'm saying.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:25 PM
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17. I agree about the candidates, but Lush is delusional if he thinks...
...he can influence more than a handful of impotent knuckle-draggers, no matter what the "tactical advantage" one way or another.

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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:47 PM
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20. CW, it's precisely because they're impotent knuckle-draggers that I think they CAN be influenced
even by the likes of Limpbaugh.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:29 PM
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21. Yeah, all six or seven of them.
If you think they're ALL like that, you really need to get out and meet people.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:51 PM
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4. Screw him. It's his party has the problem.
A candidate that they can't stand isn't exactly something to crow about.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:53 PM
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5. Since .047% of the popular vote separates the two candidates, I don't think we can predict this
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 01:54 PM by elixir
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:10 PM
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8. Polls or no polls
I think HRC will lose Vermont, Texas and probably Ohio. No amount of her shrill statements will be enough to rescue her campaign.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:35 PM
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11. Maybe Obama's bland platitudes will show voters the light?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:33 PM
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19. You need to redo math 101
Vote totals are normalised to 1; percentage values ar normalised to 100.

0.047% of the popular vote = 4.7%. IOW, Obama has almost a 5% lead.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:54 PM
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6. But...but...ALL the republicans are voting for Obama. Because they are afraid of Hillary.
Didn't you get the memo?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:58 PM
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7. It is patently un-American to tamper with the electoral process.
Rash Limpballs hates America.



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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:17 PM
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9. I heard some old jerk call into the Washington Journal to let the world
know he's a Republican voting for Hillary in the Texas primary "just to cause mischief." The old fart doesn't realize that if Hillary happens to become the nominee, she'll beat the pants off old man McCain as handily as Obama can.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:48 PM
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14. Limbaugh owes much of his 'success' to Hillary
None of those huge fuckers from the 1993-96 Triassic period forget which side their tiny T. Rex arms are buttered on:
I admit it is very early days in the nomination process, but Sen. Obama's and former Sen. Edward's campaigns are beginning to look just strong enough to induce the Hillary campaign to continually sharpen its skills (rather than succumb to the instinct to coast or sit on a lead). On the other hand, the candidacies of both Obama and Edwards may have fairly low ceilings, while the Hillary campaign has a solidity that should be able to grind on remorselessly to nomination.
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And, as we are still almost a year from the first primary votes being cast, his freshness and uniqueness will have long faded by then. He might have been formidable in a lightning campaign of three or four months, but in a long ground war of attrition -- bet on Hillary's massive institutional strengths. Just one recent example is her purchase of former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack's support for the crucial Iowa Caucuses. In one swoop, she has not only bought his endorsement, but the use of his formidable state machine -- which is vital in the hand-to-hand combat of a caucus state.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/hillary_on_track_for_nominatio.html - Gingrich's press secretary

Gingrich, the former Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, has been working alongside the wife of former President Bill Clinton, now a Democratic senator from New York, on a number of issues, and even appeared with her at a press conference on Wednesday to promote - of all things - health care legislation.

But more puzzling than that, Gingrich has been talking up Clinton's presidential prospects in 2008, to the chagrin of conservative loyalists who once regarded him as an iconic figure. Last month, he even suggested she might capture the presidency, saying "any Republican who thinks she's going to be easy to beat has a total amnesia about the history of the Clintons."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/13/news/clinton.php "New odd couple: Hillary Clinton and Newt Gingrich"
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:46 PM
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18. I was driving and listened to the whole rant. His argument was not for
Hillary to win but keep up the infighting as long as possible hopefully to a brokered convention
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:47 PM
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22. Hillary and Rush, working together to tamper with Democratic primaries.
That's just great.

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