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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:03 PM
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CNN says *s approval rating went up?!?!?!?! Plus 51% of likely....
Voters would vote for him. I don't understand it. All of this stuff is coming out and Condi won't testify. What the hell has he done to make his approval rating go up?:mad: How would 51% of likely voters vote for him but he couldn't even get 50% of the vote last time? I am really starting to worry about this country.:wtf: Somebody give me some good news please. I don't think I could handle four more years of *. Just the thought of it makes me sick.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:05 PM
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1. first off, welcome to DU
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 06:05 PM by Neo Progressive
secondly, these polls were taken before the richard clarke thing I suspect.

thirdly, cnn has decided that to increase their ratings, they have to emulate fox news, and also realized that being shitty is easier than being respectable
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:05 PM
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2. I Don't buy these polling numbers
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:06 PM
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3. If you had a link, I might believe it.
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:12 PM
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10. Sorry I don't have a link. Saw it on CNN a minute ago.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:17 PM
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15. it seems fishy to me!1
Holy shiat you stole my name!!
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:20 PM
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17. Nice name.
;)
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:44 PM
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27. Yep, nice name...now you might want to go find a link...
to back up this thread...
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:05 PM
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31. Sorry if you don't believe me.
I saw it on CNN(TV, not internet) so it is kind of hard to find a link to it. I am just reporting what I saw on TV.

I just saw the poll on CNN again. Said the same thing. Turn on CNN at the top of the hour if you don't believe me. I can't find a link.
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Sanity Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:13 PM
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11. There's another thread about this in this forum
You can get the link from there.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:07 PM
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4. CNN: April Fool's day is THURSDAY.
:evilgrin:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:07 PM
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5. I DO NOT believe it. See the other Gallup threads.
And a big welcome to DU! :hi:
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:08 PM
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6. Take a look at Kerry's negatives
They've gone up considerably. It isn't that Bush has done anything good. It's that some $25 million spent in anti Kerry ads is beginning to pay off for Bush. And Kerry had better do something to counter the onslaught, fast.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:14 PM
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12. I agree
I think * took a hit but Kerry did also with all the negative ads. I always thought that the immediate poll numbers wouldn't change much. It takes times for folks to change their minds and realize the importance of these allegations. I think the key one is approval on terrorism is down to 56 percent on one of the polls. That's a drop from 70 percent a few weeks ago.

Kerry needs to define himself and then I think the poll numbers will change.
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chillwindblowing Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:09 PM
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7. what is the *admistration famous for LIES LIES
Don't trust in the polls, these people have no scruples. It is only March ,,, 7 months to go ....:hi:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:10 PM
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8. Are these polls on CNN the ones you can vote over and over on?
I think most of these polls get Freeped.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:10 PM
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9. Ah fer cryin' out loud
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 06:11 PM by Bluzmann57
It's EIGHT MONTHS until the election. Ease up on analyzing polls all the time. I forget the clowns name now, but shortly before the Iowa caucuses there was a guy on MSNBC who tried to tell us what we Iowans should and shouldn't do. It turned out that he is some kind of republican stooge who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Thats probably what this poll is too. They never contacted me, so screw 'em. Welcome to DU.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:15 PM
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13. Welcome to DU!
If it's an online poll, it could very well have been much worse, so maybe, let's hope, the news is not so bad, after all.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:22 PM
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18. NOT, repeat N-O-T an online poll.
This was one of their (in)famous "random" sampling through telephone or internet polls.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:21 PM
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36. i was afraid of that, saywhat...
there goes bliss...
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:16 PM
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14. Chill!
Most people didn't believe Watergate at first, either. It's way to soon to be so agitated about ONE poll.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:26 PM
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19. Hey, I'm agitated about the last 3 f***ing miserable years.
I'm agitated because I don't want to live the rest of my life under a far rightwing banana republic junta. These phony polls definitely influence the electorate. Dems get discouraged if our candidate is cast as a "loser", and Repukes become energized. We must fight the propaganda from the get go.
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:17 PM
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16. I know it's still a long ways out....
But I just get worried that with all of this negative attention the * crew is getting it does not seem to be hurting them much.

On a couple of positive notes though I saw were Nader and Kerry are going to meet and discuss how to beat *. Maybe he will drop out.:) Also I think when Kerry chooses a VP it will help alot. Hopefully.

Oh yeah, and thanks for the welcome everyone.B-)
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:26 PM
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20. Stop polling people
in Kansas, Alabama, and Texas
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R3dD0g Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:33 PM
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23. I saw a poll about the Clarke allegations
It was something like:
10% more favorable to *
17% less favorable
67% no change

I would fit into the 67% grouping. I thought they were all crooks & liars from Dec 12, 2000. And most people already know who they're voting for.

The 10% more are just lying to sway the polls, they're for * anything short of live boy or dead girls.

The 17% probably are folks like us DUers who wanted to sway the polls.

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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:29 PM
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21. Don't buy the B.S.
who you gonna believe the polls or your own eyes.

It is obvious attempt at public perception manipulation. Given the fact that the Regime lost by 500k in 2k and has alienated so many more since;this poll or attempt at manipulation isobvious to any thinking person.

If they can get away with this deception it won't be too difficult for them to claim victory in November when they steal the election again via BBV.

DON'T BUY IT!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:35 PM
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24. I'm not worried about DUers.
I'm freaked about Dems like my elderly mom and pop, who have to go to great physical effort just to vote. Any really discouraging news they get through the mainstream media (their only source of information) might discourage them, and others in their, or similar, situation(s), from making that effort. :cry:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:31 PM
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22. It could be that right wingers are rallying around their boy
Remember how Clinton's approval rating went higher during his scandals?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:37 PM
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25. That would imply that Gallup is polling right wingers disproportionately.
Yup, yup.
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looking glass Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:43 PM
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26. Kerry's Negatives
Like a previous poster said, this has more to do with rising negatives for Kerry, than it has to do with the 9/11 hearings.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:49 PM
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28. WHAT negatives?????
And exactly WHAT could compare, in terms of negatives, with a selected pResident deceiving the country about reasons for our invasion of a sovereign nation; and, refusing to let his staff testify under oath about the worst terrorist attack against us in history??????

Hey, Kerry is a featherweight novice in the negative department. Just ask the master accumulator of all negatives, jr. bush*.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:00 PM
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30. He will raise your taxes 9000000 jillion, he made it easier for terrarists
blah blah blah steady leadership GWB lie attack ads. . .Am glad that Kerry is raising money, his new positive ad is good, saw it in Iowa on TV last night.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:06 PM
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32. That's speculation and spin. * has already COMMITTED his crimes.
More Americans than these polls even begin to sample know that we are under the rule of a criminal cabal. It's a total nobrainer.
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:00 PM
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29. Gallup no longer Gallup since 1988
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 07:01 PM by terisel
Gallup is a highly respected name in polling due to its innovative founder, Dr. Gallup of Princeton NJ.

However the central Gallup Organization was bought out in 1988 by SRI (Selection Research) of Lincoln or Omaha, Nebraska which merged the companies into the Gallup Group. Jim Clifton of SRI, who currently resides in Washington, D.C. has been CEO ever since.I think this is a privately held business and information regarding the Board of Directors is not easy to find online.

Clifton seems to be an incredibly successful businessman.

Jim Clifton, The Gallup Organization

Jim Clifton began his career in Lincoln in 1977 by starting a marketing research company with a $5,000 loan from Union Bank. In his first year of business he used this $5,000 as seed money and was able to generate $80,000 in total sales. Following acquisitions, including the renowned Gallup Organization and worldwide expansion, his organization's billings exceeded $200 million. Jim has been CEO of The Gallup Organization since 1988. The Gallup Organization is one of the world's largest think tanks and providers of public opinion polling and management consulting. Under Jim's fourteen-year leadership, Gallup has enjoyed a ten-fold increase in billings volume and expanded from a predominately U.S.-based company to a global organization with offices in fifty cities in 24 of the world's largest nations. Mr. Clifton's current projects include the creation of a 75-acre Gallup University campus on the Missouri River in Omaha, Nebraska and a living internet-based record of "what man thought" named the Gallup WorldBrain which stores 65 years of polls on almost all issues the world has faced.
PHOTOS COMING SOON

<http://www.cba.unl.edu/outreach/ent/eoy/>



Cynthia Milligan is the only board menber I've found. She is the dean of the College of Business Administration at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln, Nebraska. Ms. Milligan is also the former Director of Banking and Finance for the State of Nebraska.

<http://www.wellsfargo.com/about/corporate/boardofdirectors/milligan.jhtml>


Home page for Gallup: <http://www.gallup.com/>
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:12 PM
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33. First off, Welcome to DU
Secondly, it's real earlier in the game so far. Still a long way to go for people to make up their minds (in either direction). Plus one poll don't mean it's Bible.

I agree, I still know know WTF some people are thinking. I don't know how anyone can honestly say the Shrub Admin. is doing a good job (except maybe the die-hard Shrubery) but let's hope people come to their senses.

Have fun at DU!
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:15 PM
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34. Thanks for the welcome!
I love this place already!:)
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:18 PM
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35. Get a GRIP, people!
This is a NATIONAL poll 7 months prior to the election. The race will be won or lost state-by-state, and all of the most recent polls show KERRY winning in both Ohio and Florida, IIRC. If you keep wetting yourselves every time a *national poll* comes out, you'll be quivering blobs of protoplasm before November.

/rant off
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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 08:34 PM
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37. I agree that state polls matter more - but a 16 point shift in a month?
I totally agree with you Cuban that it is the state polls that matter most and with the exception of Missouri both Bush and Kerry are statistically tied in most of the battleground states (PA, IA, MI, WI, FL, OH).

I am annoyed that the Gallup poll had Kerry +12 about six weeks ago and now Bush is +4. That's a 16-point shift and these results were taken AFTER the Clarke revelations and 9-11 hearings.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 08:44 PM
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39. I wouldn't pay much attention to Gallup
they just don't have a good track record. If you followed Gallup during the 2000 election, you would have expected Bush* to win by a landslide. Apparently many Republicans were caught off guard by Bush's loss.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 08:44 PM
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40. duplicate post
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 08:45 PM by XanthaS
sorry
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 08:40 PM
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38. Yet, another recent poll put Bush at 48% approval, and Kerry up by 1 pt
Bush spends half of his war chest before Kerry even picks a VP, and all he gets is a slight bump?

All of these latest match-up polls weigh Nader much too heavily as well, so really, Bush has a huge struggle ahead to maintain any sort of lead in the polls.
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