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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:40 AM
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Betcha By Golly Wow - Know that the MSM will be shilling for Hillary BigTime Tomorrow, ALL Day!
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 12:41 AM by FrenchieCat
For several reasons:

1. The MSM can't lose if Hillary wins both states on Tuesday, because that ensures more primaries, and that's what they want, cause that makes people watch their "reporting". :eyes:

2. The MSM have to live down the meme put out by the Hillary campaign that she gets no respect from the media (since she came in 3rd in Iowa). Yes, at the end of the day, they are still scared of the Clintons. :scared:

3. The MSM love tearing out the heart of the Democratic party, and they know that prolonging the primaries will do just that.

4. The MSM want more advertising dollars....and so a few more millions will be very nice, thank you.

5. The MSM at the end of the day don't like "Change", cause they don't know what that will mean for the parent companies....and since Bill Clinton was kind enough to sign the 1996 Telecom Act, the Clintons are a safer bet by far.

SO watch, listen and write to them when you see it happen.....and it will.
The print media will be a bit more even handed.
The electronic media will be totally biased and believe itself totally justified, cause Hillary said so. :eyes:


Yahoo news headlines right now:

Clinton launches Ohio campaign marathon
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080303/ap_on_el_pr/clinton




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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:44 AM
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1. Good! Go Hillary!!!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:00 AM
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46. Well, some are waking up to the Hillary manipulation of the media....
Hillary Clinton has convinced the media that it is biased against her, one of the great (and rare) successes of her presidential campaign, akin to her creation of the vast right-wing conspiracy responsible for conceiving a string of sexual and other disgraces in her husband's White House.
With classic chutzpah, Clinton would have us believe that in a campaign in which she has escaped the most basic scrutiny of her finances, her husband's business relationships and her claims of experience, she is hurting because of the media's favorable treatment of Barack Obama.

On the race itself, the media has time and again let itself be manipulated by a Clinton campaign deftly managing expectations, albeit in increasingly surreal ways. Only two weeks ago the consensus was that Clinton had to win Texas or Ohio by 20 point margins to have a shot at the nomination (at the time these margins still seemed plausible). In recent days, her campaign has put out the word that if Obama doesn't win all four contests this Tuesday, it will be a sign of trouble for him. Of course journalists, no matter how lazy or gullible, know this is stupid, but nonetheless, maybe in a failed effort at fairness, they now seem to accept that Clinton needs to win either Texas and Ohio by any margin. Suddenly gone is the original assessment that Clinton has to win big on March 4, despite the fact that it is mathematically verifiable that there will be too few contests after Tuesday for her to make up the delegate count if she doesn't put a big dent in Obama's lead now. This judgment has become more accurate daily as Clinton's superdelegate lead melts away.

Losing eleven contests in a row, mostly by far wider margins than anyone had anticipated, would doom any campaign (in fact, can anyone think of one major primary contender who has survived such a string of defeats?). Yet the media continue to portray Clinton as strongly viable, if not quite the frontrunner. Again, this is a remarkable feat by her campaign, and an utter failure by most journalists to accurately portray the state of the race.

Clinton has been able to twist these expectations because so many are still in awe of her and her husband, attributing near-mystical powers to their ability to come back from the dead (the latest example, we are told, was her narrow New Hampshire win two months ago). At the same time, she has set up the media as sexist and easily wooed by Obama. This may be true, but, if anything, this has lead the guilt-ridden mainstream press to soften its negative coverage of the Clintons. Nowhere is this more visible than in the complete lack of recent interest in the couple's finances: far more has been written about Obama and Rezko, despite the relative benignity of the charge, than about how Bill and Hillary have amassed the tens of millions of dollars that make up their fortune, starting with her Arkansas cattle futures deal and ending with his Kazakhstan connections. There is a rich vein of potential conflict of interest, corruption and misuse of power that the media should relish covering in great detail, but much of the discussion has been relegated to a few bloggers. A particularly opportune time for coverage should have been when Clinton pulled out $5 million seemingly out of nowhere, to finance her campaign, but we're still left to wonder how these long-time public servants have instant access to such sums, especially since no tax returns are available.

In the meanwhile, journalists have been covering the cackle, the misty eyes and the pantsuit; Clinton should be eternally grateful for this, as it has distracted us from far bigger sins, made her look like a victim of the predominantly male political media's sexism, and rendered journalists insecure about their ability to cover her campaign objectively...

more http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-jenkins/clinton-and-the-vast-medi_b_89465.html
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:44 AM
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2. Well, she is going to be on the Daily Show tomorrow night
That should be fun. Hope she doesn't come off as stiff and disconnected. Jon's pretty good at making guests comfortable. If she's lucky his writers might give her a couple of jokes.

Then it's Tuesday. Then we will see.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:47 AM
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6. They will be "shilling" for her.......
I mean, why not give their girl a boost when she is dire need? :shrug:


Defense Industry Embraces Democrats, Hillary By Far The Favorite



The defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.

An examination of contributions of $500 or more, using the Huffington Post's Fundrace website, shows that employees of the top five arms makers - Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Raytheon and General Dynamics -- gave Democratic presidential candidates $103,900, with only $86,800 going to Republicans.

Senator Clinton took in $52,600, more than half of the total going to all Democrats, and a figure equaling 60 percent of the sum going to the entire GOP field. Her closest competitor for defense industry money is former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R.), who raised $32,000.

Insofar as defense workers making political donations reflect the interests of their employers, the contributions clearly suggest that the arms industry has reach the conclusion that Democratic prospects for 2008 are very good indeed. Since their profits are so heavily dependent on government contracts, companies in this field want to be sure they do not have hostile relations with the White House.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/17/defense-industry-embraces_n_68927.html


Weapons Industry WarLords Back Hillary Clinton, along with Wall Street Investment Bankers: her position on wars is like Lieberman Options
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/72ddcef300b05e2a


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/101907O.shtml
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:01 AM
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39. Timing is every thing -any shilling for Hillary at this time is 2 months late and now for appearance
only - they need that "unbiased" claim as they turn on Obama for next 6 months so as to get McCain into office.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:45 AM
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3. Absolutely -
AND, the MSM LOVES the churn...the 'suspense', the faked stories dealing with the most salacious slivers of detail - the fake Obama Muslim connection, etc etc etc....

If someone wins outright, they have to fill the next 6 months with drivel about the Dems Vs Repubs, hardly as exciting.....this is MUCH more appealing....

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:46 AM
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4. Ponder this: the m$m also likes to back the winner.
;)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:50 AM
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11. Surely, but they're covered both ways
They've already said Obama seems unstoppable. Meantime, the campaign is good for business. I was joking to my better half yesterday that CNN is probably paying Hillary to keep running, because it allows them to fill so much airtime for cheap.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:46 AM
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5. The same MSM that has, with a favoritism not seen in 8 yrs, foisted upon us an illusion for a hero?
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 12:49 AM by Skip Intro
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:51 AM
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12. The same MSM who were lead cheerleaders getting us in Iraq....
who intensified sabre rattling on Iran,
wanted us to believe that Global Warming "might" be a myth,
and foisted Hillary on us for at least the last two years.

Yes, that same MSM.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:02 AM
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24. Welcome to your new hero.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:57 AM
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18. Would that be 'heroine' Hillary, who was the anointed one prior
to losing her mo-jo? We heard all about Clinton for a year prior to Obama 'earning' the spotlight. Give it up; you know it's true.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:07 AM
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28. Well, you see, you said, "you know it's true" and the fact is, no, I don't know it's true.
That Hillary was pumped up by the MSM?

No, I don't remember that.



The only people I ever heard talk about inevitability for Hillary were posters on this board, posters very much against her. Never saw that anywhere else, tv or otherwise.

Obama is a media-creation. Give it up; you know it's true.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:13 AM
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30. Bwahahahahaha!
That's funny!

Hillary wasn't foisted on voters for like Two Years? Riiiiight! What-E-ver! :eyes:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:18 AM
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32. Do you have any links or anything?
:shrug:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:22 AM
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44. Even Tweety and Russert were asking her to run as far back as 2004.
But, he's never seen that on teevee, either.

LoL
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:21 AM
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34. Two months before the Iowa contest --
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/26/eveningnews/main3540666.shtml

11/26/07 Hillary told Katie Couric that the end game will be on Feb. 5, and she would be the winner.

That's some pretty 'inevitable' talk from the candidate herself - and she believed it, as is evidenced by her having NO game plan for AFTER 2/5.

For two years the MSM looked at the polls, with her 20 - 40 point leads and said she was inevitable. And for two years, Hillary supporters touted those polls and did nothing to inject a little rationality into the discussion, admitting that 90% of that was mere name recognition. Three weeks out from EVERY contest, Hillary had the clear lead. And in every contest, as they grew closer, and people got to see the opposition, that lead dwindled.

She was NEVER inevitable. SHE was the media creation.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:22 AM
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35. She was hailed an 'inevitable' and the 'incumbent' until she wasn't.
If you never saw that, you weren't looking, paying attention, or now you're in denial.
Google it. I'm not running down links to satisfy you.

And your worn "Obama is a media creation?" Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who love him and 'get it'-and have voted for him and will vote for him, myself included, on Tuesday. The media didn't do that: he did. If it had been up to the media, Clinton would be winning.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:16 AM
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43. Good Lord.
I got nothing to say to that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:42 AM
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45. That's the best thing you have to say all primary season......
and so, I'm glad to hear it.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:47 AM
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7. And won't that be novel and nice for a change? Go Hillary!
Yay Democracy!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:49 AM
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9. Yeah....for undeserved Shilling you mean?
Because since Iowa, she's not been doing well enough for it to be justified.

Losing 11 in a row, and losing a big lead in less than 3 weeks isn't exactly something to "shill" about, last I looked.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:48 AM
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8. No Doubt
I believe the voters are mostly ignored by the M$M, and at the end of the day Tuesday it's back to the senate for her.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:50 AM
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10. "while we breathe" is that akin to "when Hell is full obamabots
will walk the earth"
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:52 AM
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14. Personal insults aimed at DUers gets you an ignored.
Good bye!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:54 AM
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16. i have no idea who you were talking to
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:23 AM
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36. Me either. nt
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:51 AM
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13. MAD TV
Reminds me of the MAD TV skit when Oprah's head explodes.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:53 AM
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15. It won't matter - don't watch, make calls for your candidate...relax and tune in on Tuesday @ 7 nt
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:55 AM
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17. I sensed that the last couple of days. all of a sudden
they are much more sympathatic toward her in their coverage. I also see just plain MORE coverage of her in the last couple of days.

P.S. Do you think it's a mistake that Obama is spending the last week+ trying to look "thoughtful" and "wonkish" so he doesn't seem like a televangelist stating aphorisms?

I believe you do need to morph your campaign as you go along, and I think it has been KEY that he looked good in last Tuesday's debates. I also think his quick response on stump speeches and ads is CRITICAL to success.

Mas votes for Obama in Texas, por favor!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:00 AM
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21. That's because she scolded them.......
and so, gave them an excuse; cover sort of speak.

But I think that Obama will do fine.

But the electronic media has a way of effecting the dumb electorate still left and who haven't studied the issues and just go with what the MSM says. There maybe enough of those to affect the race.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:58 AM
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19. Please see Obama thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4834528


I just posted several articles from local media.

The polls in Ohio are tied and Texas is very close

A substantial majority of Ohio democrats, including 1/3 of Hillary supporters think that Obama is going to be the nominee

Also a good article on how the delegate math makes it impossible for Clinton to catch up

Obama and Michelle will be in Texas tomorrow

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:04 AM
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26. I'm posting the one that reflects why the MSM will be shilling for Hillary
They have nothing to lose by doing it. She'll be happy, and the primaries will go on.
Only those sensible ones in the Democratic party that sees how this is tearing us up and wasting our money want it to end.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4834528&mesg_id=4854825
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:20 AM
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33. I cant stand it in here anymore leaving for tonight and
will see about tomorrow. The IQ rate has gone thru the floor. The only thing that we know for sure is that best case scenario for Clinton is that she breaks even in delegates.

Read the stories - I especially liked the one about Ohioans - even Clinton supporters think its a done deal


and remember 24 hours from now history will have taken a huge step forward.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:59 AM
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20. Four times today I tuned into CNN's Ballot Bowl so I could see
what was going on politically today.

Apparently, Obama was in seclusion all day, because each time I tuned in HRC was starring in an uninterrupted speech.

Maybe every speech wasn't given today, but they were sure all featured today.

After one extended HRC speech segment, they then went to remarks by Chelsea Clinton.

I saw a couple of clips of McCain speaking, er, droning on, and remarks by Huckabee about why he wasn't dropping out.

The only Obama piece I saw was something from Friday in which he responded to HRC's "Red Phone" ad.

Nice job, CNN.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:01 AM
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22. Also saw Bill Clinton, who desperately needs a haircut....... n/t
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:02 AM
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23. They have been doing this for some time
And then SNL runs skits on how CNN has been so unfair to the Clinton campaign!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:55 AM
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38. Yeah, it's terrible how the MSM keeps talking about
Hillary's weird middle name, and how her church (United Methodists) has gay ministers, and shows pictures every day of her dressed up in foreign costumes.

They are just terrible to her.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:03 AM
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25. None of them want her to go down blaming them.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:06 AM
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27. Yep. They'd never hear the end of it.....
You know Hillary.

After all, she's thrown all and the kitchen sink. Something's got stick as far as she's concerned.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:28 AM
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37. She starts and ends with every advantage.
She walked in the door at 50% with name recognition, money, and party backing. And she literally pissed it away with probably what will go down in Democratic Party lore as the worst campaign evah. So she stomped her feet and now has every imaginable advantage again except ..... a message. Her entire campaign to date has been hubris and bullshit.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:13 AM
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29. we also know that CBS has already started
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:15 AM
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31. Not surprised......
at all.


But Obama will get through this. Once someone knows him, they ain't going back.

I'm just concerned about the low waged less educated ones who just basically do what the MSM tells them to do. Don't need many, when the numbers are so tight.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:03 AM
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40. I hope you're right....... it is a leap year, so maybe they'll slip one day to her.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:11 AM
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41. Let's just ignore it all Barack supporters should be making calls than watching TV form here on in
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:22 AM
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42. this should make you feel better
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