I posted I don't believe in Obama. My patriotism and devotion was questioned.

[Tennessee Gal]

If you doubt my belief in the Democratic Party and my love of country, please look at the following:

I wrote columns for Buzzflash.

Why I Am A Democrat
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/05/09_Democrat.html

The Finer Points of Liberalism
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/05/13_Liberalism.html

Liberty!
http://www.buzzflash.com/southern/2002/05/27_southern.html

Comments received:

I appreciate your Memorial Day letter and want to personally thank you for expressing so eloquently what I and many patriotic Americans are feeling. Please keep reminding us why we are proud to be Americans.

A BuzzFlash Reader


Thank you so much for your comments on liberty. It made my day. It is so disheartening for the current leaders of our country to act so shamefully and the news media to just "go along" with it. Thank you again and God bless you.

Donna

Your article "Liberty!" on May 27, 2002, on BuzzFlash lifted our spirits and renewed our faith that truth and liberty will triumph in the end.

You've done a beautiful job of casting a light upon the truths of not only of who America is, but of who we must become.

Thank you,

Hal and Laurie


Beautifully and courageously spoken.

Thank you.

Sally


I think it is sometimes easy to forget how a simple e-mail can have so much impact upon so many, but I wanted to let you know that your essay has lifted my spirits and given a me a hope for our future that I sometimes have grave doubts about. Please know that your words have had a very powerful impact on my day, my life, and my future.

Thank you

Larry


You so eloquently speak for me. I am concerned for our politicians who oppose this "popular" president. They will be smeared for any criticism they make. We must make every effort to keep them in office. We must speak out against the imperialism of the current administration. I hope your writing will be published widely.

Thank you,

Nan


I read your excellent article about our free speech rights, and the dangers from those who would squelch free speech in the name of patriotism and security. I would very much like to reproduce it in the newsletter (circulation about 100) of our Jupiter Tequesta Democratic club here in Palm Beach County, Florida. Of course, if you give permission, we will credit you.

Thank you very much.

Jill


That was one of the most magnificent, well-written arguments I have read in a long time. Very well researched and backed up with historical quotes that, sadly, too many Americans have never read or heard before. I've been told I am being unpatriotic by criticizing Boy Bush and his gang of cronies. I don't want the same kind of country these clowns are trying to create, and will continue to do everything in my power to make sure he follows in his old man's footsteps and never serves another term in office.

Roy
Tyler, Texas


Yaaaaaaaaay!!!!

This is one of the very best written articles, especially about this subject, that I have ever read. Not that it will do a lot of good, I am still passing it along to my 'email list' -- most of whom, are 'Bush idolizers', thinking he can do no wrong. :o)

The messages here, are all exactly how I have been thinking/feeling about all that is going on at this time, regarding the bush-administration. Thank you so much for the reassurances that I am 'not alone' -- as I sometimes feel in trying to discuss any/all opinions about my political beliefs.

Blessings, Joyce


My friend sent me your article entitled "Liberty" at BuzzFlash.com. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate your insight and candor and the opportunity to receive, via e-mail, your views. I'm currently reading "Stupid White Men" by Michael Moore and am feeling angry that we are stuck with such a stupid, selfish man in the White House, and that he has surrounded himself with other stupid, self-serving men. At the same time I'm deeply grateful that I have the liberty to send this reply to you in thanks. I focus on the freedom to listen, read and share thoughts with which I resonate. Happy Memorial Day! Here's to those who died loving this country founded by such honest, wise, conscientious men! May we help to perpetuate the spirit in which they laid our country's foundation!

Sincerely, Nancy


Thanks Rebecca - your essay was a well done, much needed reminder of just what this country really stands for. You conveyed a stirring reverence for our shared history and a passion for democracy and liberty. I'm grateful, on this Memorial Day, that there are people like you who will take the time to speak out eloquently and cause us to reflect on the crucial need for each generation to fully exercise it's inalienable rights - the job of warding off tyranny is never done - the Founders knew that and provided us with the means to confront it wherever and whenever it rears it's ugly head.

Dawn in Phoenix


What a great great article, It was the best EVER, Please keep on writing, for my very favorite Website. You really gave me goose pimples, with your article.

Bless you.

Edith


what a wonderful, insightful piece of writing is your article "liberty!" it is so fitting a tribute to our founding fathers and all those who have fought and even fallen for the ideals they espoused, and it is even more important as a reminder of the awesome responsibility with which we as Americans are charged..........today perhaps more so than ever before.

i salute you for your hard work, research, writing skills, and heart. thank you, thank you, thank you for this article which i will treasure forever.

larry


I just read your article regarding liberty in BuzzFlash.com. Thank you making my holiday complete.

BuzzFlash.com has helped me to maintain my sanity since the takeover of our country by the right wing zealots. So again....thanks for your words as I will save them and forward them to friends who agree and likewise to friends who disagree.

Take care and let's get Tennessee back in the Dems column in '04. I think Harold Ford has a future on the national level down the road. Maybe he will become one of your senators soon.

Don



I appreciated your commentary a great deal. I'm a classic Humphrey Democrat turned radical but still an Eagle Scout and patriot in the classic traditional sense you praise here. I wish someone would sue Ashcroft's ass off for wasting his time chasing after Oregon death with dignity cases while his prime duty, chasing terrorists, is being ignored by the FBI. He's busy covering the breasts on statues while the Anthrax killer, someone we undoubtedly already suspect and know, remains at large. Somebody's got to speak up, and you just did. You join my modern pantheon of heroines which includes two women from this week; you and Coleen Rowley, the FBI lawyer in Minneapolis. She also wrote a blistering letter which Time.com posted nearly in full. I can see why the FBI director stamped it "classified". It's not military classified, but cover your ass at the FBI time.

Keep writing and hounding the faux-patriots. They need to hear from real Americans.

Dave


I am a Korea war veteran and I didn't mind going there, as a matter of fact I knew that I would be going there when I enlisted on 6-15-1950 in the Army. As it turned out I served 19 months over there which was 7 more months than I was required to do but that was because I had a critical classification.

That was a great article that you wrote on Liberty and Freedom and other important matters and I agree with you 100%. Just how low down can a president get, no president could get any lower than this court appointed president that we now have in the form of George W Bush and even his grandfather Prescott Bush was a traitor to this country.

Just in case you don't already know it, I want to alert you to what Bush and his administration has done to the Veterans of this country.

Because of the huge budget cuts from the Veterans Administration, many thousands of Veterans cannot get health care at the Veterans Hospitals and thousands are turned away from the emergency rooms.

In Florida alone more than 42,000 Veterans are on the waiting lists just to see a Primary Doctor and in many cases veterans have to wait until another veteran dies before he can be taken care of and in one case an 80 year old disabled veteran was rejected by an outpatient clinic that isn't taking any new patients.

I am also disabled but I am fortunate because I had a Primary Doctor before this unpatriotic president took office. This story comes mostly from Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn, who is Chairman of the House Government subcommittee on national security, veterans affairs and international relations and it was reported by the associated press on 5-14-02 and is available by clicking on Military.com.

If people in this country are as patriotic as they claim to be then they should be flooding congress with complaints on this very serious matter because veterans are going to die for the lack of concern from George W Bush. Something needs to be done soon.

Sincerely

Thomas
Lexington, Ky


I read your Memorial Day commentary on BuzzFlash today and I simply must say that it is, perhaps, one of the most beautiful, thoughtful pieces I have ever read. How sorry I am that some of our high-placed Democratic leaders have not had the fortitude to put forth such remarks in defense of our liberties. I am ashamed of many of them as they are willing political sheep being led to the slaughter. The loss of my Party's influence pains me greatly but not nearly as much as the very obvious loss of some of our freedoms.

Thank you for speaking out in a most eloquent way.

Sincerely,

James, Ft. Myers Florida


Buzzflash: Southern Style Archives (2002 -2004)
http://www.buzzflash.com/southern/archives.html

[f the letter]

1. It is stupid to question patriotism just because someone disagrees

That makes no more sense than assuming someone is patriotic just because they agree with you. Nice articles too

[BeatleBoot]

2. My Party Allegiance has been Questioned.

Because I support Hillary Clinton.

Has the world been turned upside down or something?

[Tennessee Gal]

5. Sometimes I think so.

[jefferson_dem]

12. You promoted the drudge pic of Obama in African dress and an unflattering pic of Kerry from '04.

You sure sound like a loyal Dem to me.

[Tennessee Gal]

18. I did? Can you post a link? Are you telling the truth?

[jefferson_dem]

20. That comment was not directed at you, Tennessee Gal.

:hi: anyway.

[Tennessee Gal]

23. ok, sorry

[BeatleBoot]

27. It was a joke, man. Like can't we find candidates who don't take stupid pictures.

And those are both really stupid pictures.

And I thought it was funny to show them together, because the ticket would look ridiculous.

And part of it is hoping people realize what the Nazi scum are going to do in November.

I've been a Dem my entire life. I worked for Jimmy Carter when I was in the 6th grade for godsakes.

And I support Hillary Clinton - like it or not.

Grow some thick skin, man, because you're going to need it come November.





Is this not the dumbest picture you have ever seen? I knocked on doors for this guy and he shows up to a photo shoot dressed like this?

What was he thinking?

[jefferson_dem]

46. You are right.

Some time ago, a poster questioned my Democratic credentials and I found it deeply offensive, given that I have been a proud Democrat as long as I knew what one was. I have no right to question your party loyalty. I apologize.

Definitely a photo-op gone bad, by the way.

[BeatleBoot]

52. Thanks and another thing...

Just kidding.

I'm working for her until she wins or drops out.

Then I work for the Democratic Party as I always have and we take the White House.

[ecstatic]

3. Well you've obviously jumped the shark between then and now

If you don't plan to support the dem nominee (who promises to end the war, bring healthcare, etc.) then you're judgment has changed and people have a right to call you out on it.

[BeatleBoot]

6. Someone needs to become the Dem nominee first

[Tennessee Gal]

9. Obama is not the Democratic Party.

[BeatleBoot]

11. Thank you.

[Colobo]

24. No, and neither are Edwards nor Hillary. They are Democrats like Obama.

To suggest Obama is not a true Democrat is truly stupid.

[Tennessee Gal]

37. Nobody said that.

[ecstatic]

47. Of course he isn't. But if he is the Democratic nominee, then it would

follow that Democrats should vote for him. In your post you implied that you would not vote for him.

[Horse with no Name]

4. Don't let the obamatrons question anything

There are still SOME of us who came to Democratic UNDERGROUND because we refused to be sheep and follow Pied Pipers and preferred to THINK and ask the tough questions of our politicians.
Even though that seems to be replaced by automatons...there are STILL pockets of us who refuse to go gently into the night.

[anamandujano]

98. Thank you and very well stated.

[anamandujano]

7. Obama tactics are getting more Bush like everyday.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. Questioning your patriotism is just as stupid as saying you won't support the nominee.

[anamandujano]

13. Kind of like Michelle Obama if he doesn't win the nom.

Right out of her mouth.

[Drunken Irishman]

32. It was a stupid comment, yup.

And I think she recanted right after.

As this person? Nope.

[anamandujano]

62. So, she said she would support Hillary? This is the first I've heard of it.

Will her husband instruct his followers to get behind the nominee if it's not him also?

Actually, I think you're referring to her love of country that she rephrased later, not that she would support Hillary without "have(ing) to think about it."

[Drunken Irishman]

70. Regardless, I have no doubt Michelle and Barack would back Hillary and support her.

Like I don't doubt Bill and Hillary will support Obama when he wins the nomination.

However, to state you won't support the nominee if your guy/gal doesn't get it, that's pathetic.

[anamandujano]

95. You have no doubt doesn't mean they will. As for your last sentence,

"However, to state you won't support the nominee if your guy/gal doesn't get it, that's pathetic."

That's what Michelle said, and never retracted it (unless you can provide some sort of proof.)

It's ok for her to speak her mind, but not Tennessee Gal.

I'm not surprised because the double standards of the BO campaign and its followers are breathtaking.

[Drunken Irishman]

104. Here ya' go.

"My hope and expectation would be when Barack becomes the nominee, that Bill and Hillary Clinton would roll up their sleeves and work for him. So I would have to say honestly, I would have to do the same thing," said Michelle Obama, according to the transcript provided by the senator's campaign to The News.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/02/05/2008-02-05_michelle_obama_hesitates_when_deciding_i-1.html

[eileen_d]

10. I think you were "questioned" because you are considering not voting

for the democratic nominee. You are being disingenuous.

[Tennessee Gal]

14. Oh, so not voting for Obama is a sign of not being "Democrat" enough.

I don't think so.

I may write in another Democrat.

[MadBadger]

21. It doesnt warrant you being on DU, thats for sure.

I think the rules are crystal clear on this.

[eileen_d]

28. At this point, that's not true.

This is what bothers me about Obama supporters right now. Hillary is not out of the race.

[MadBadger]

34. If Obama is the nominee, and the OP will not support him, than yes

I wasnt talking about at this point, I was talking about if he's the nominee. I'm the last person to be overconfident about Obama

[Tennessee Gal]

36. Oh, so DU does not allow political discussions?

I think it does. It just does not want criticism of the Democratic nominee. If Obama is the nominee, I bet there will be discussion of mistakes made by his campaign. I will not criticize him personally here. In fact, I will not criticize him personally anywhere. I have already defended him in many discussions.

But there are still many other aspects of politics to be discussed.

Obama is not the be all and end all of Democratic politics or any politics.

[KoKo]

72. Ummm...as far as I know...Obama is NOT YET...the Party Nominee...there's a Convention

to go through...unless you believe that a "laying on of hands...has already annointed." :eyes:

[LostinVA]

103. Nope, not what Skinner said in his thread the otrher day

He was quite clear to Skip I that not voting for the Dem nom was acceptable, as long as said poster didn't advocate for others to do the same thing. Skip I asked Skinner for a clarification, which was given.

[Colobo]

29. Yes, not supporting the nominee of your party is... questionable.

I'll vote for Hillary in a heartbeat, because she, like Obama, is a Democrat, and a Dem is always better than a Repug.

[union_maid]

39. If he's the nominee that wouldn't much matter

Writing in another Democrat doesn't mean you're voting Dem. In the GE there will be only one D and one R. If you don't vote for the D, then you're not voting Democrat. Doesn't mean you're not one, but it doesn't mean you're voting with Democratic values in mind either.

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[eileen_d]

22. You know nothing about me

You're making assumptions. Step away from the keyboard.

[anamandujano]

53. Calling someone disingenuous about their patriotism because they can't

get behind that empty suit known as BO, makes you a nut spewing Repuke talking points.

[eileen_d]

61. Fortunately I did nothing of the sort

:patriot:

[anamandujano]

65. link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4852317#4852414

[eileen_d]

73. Ugh

You're not reading it correctly. I don't have time to explain it to you.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Well let's let everyone read what you actually said, EVERYTHING you said:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4851120

You said a lot more than you just don't believe in Obama. You also said you might not vote for the Democrat. Now you want us to believe you are really a Democrat? Prove it on election day, sweetie.

[anamandujano]

19. Obama is more Repuke than Dem.

[ClassWarrior]

25. And his Senate record is virtually identical to Clinton's. Hmmm...

NGU.

[Nickster]

26. My irony meter just pegged out on that statement. LoL.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. Hillary is a Goldwater Girl

[Colobo]

31. Bullshit.

[JVS]

43. bullshit

[anamandujano]

71. He has been using Repuke talking points, praising Repuke presidents,

dissing Democrats for being "divisive," and dissing Democrat core values such as universal Health care.

Lots more but I'll let you all rationalize those for awhile.

[Forkboy]

88. You didn't mind Mary matalin's talking points this morning.

Why do Repuke talking points bother you now?

But even a broken clock like Matalin is right twice a day and this time she got it right.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4845246#4847534

[anamandujano]

94. She's a Repuke; that's all she knows. Obama is supposed to be a Dem.

So, his using Repuke talking points bothers me.

And yeah, I think he's a liar and a race baiter.

Just because she and I agree on something, it doesn't mean I have to like her.

[Forkboy]

97. That's all she knows...and you agreed with her.

So right wing talking points aren't really your problem. It's right wing talking points you don't agree with that bothers you. The ones you agree with are A-ok.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[anamandujano]

I'm not wasting any more time on your idiotic posts. Good night Forkboy.

[Forkboy]

100. Truth hurts. Nighty night. Don't let the bed bugs bite.

[Binka]

114. Forkboy Just Sliced And Diced Grabbing The Knife

How ya doing sweetheart? You have been in rare form lately! Love it. Hugs baby.

[PassingFair]

115. Knife? I think he used a Mouli (tm) on her!

Bite-sized bits!

[Forkboy]

116. Doing ok.

A full week of doctor visits this week and then I'm off to visit me mum for a week on Cape Cod (if you see the DUer WarNoMore say hi...that's her).

What do you mean rare form? I'm always a pain in the ass here. ;)

I hope all is going well out there for you. It's great to see you around! :hug:

[dkf]

79. Actually, she said she might not vote at all.

I wouldn't call that unpatriotic but I do think you aren't performing your civic duty if you don't vote.

[Name removed]

16. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[question everything]

33. Please do not give these ignorants any credit

for even listening to what they say.

I think that it was Samuel Johnson who said that Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

[FrenchieCat]

42. Like this

scoundrel here, you mean?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4852491

[NMMNG]

59. "Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism"

That used to be one of the most popular quotes around here. Apparently dissent is only a high form of patriotism when one is dissenting against Republicans. :sarcasm:

[MoonRiver]

35. Thank you for that!

The scorched earth fanatics here know no bounds. I sense many mental health issues.

[FrenchieCat]

40. You mean,

like this fool here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4852349&mesg_id=4852349

[Spiffarino]

38. I don't believe in Obama

I believe in God. I believe in the power of love. I also believe in democracy, privacy, good government, and the value of work.

I don't believe in Barack Obama. I think that he would make a better President of the United States than Hillary Clinton. I don't have to believe in any person. It's merely a matter of personal judgment as is your support for Hillary.

Rock on.

[JVS]

41. So I guess you were fibbing when you wrote "Think what you will. I don't care."

[Tennessee Gal]

74. It is wrong to be called unpatriotic simply for taking a stand.

That is a Bush/Cheney tactic. That is why I responded.

[JVS]

75. It's not because you took a stand. It's because you spitefully plan to harm the country

[Tennessee Gal]

80. Go drink your Kool-Aid.

[JVS]

81. Go don't support the nominee, but don't consider yourself a Democrat if you do that.

[Tennessee Gal]

85. The office of the presidency is not the only position being voted on.

[JVS]

87. It's the most important one this year. Good dems support the nominee.

No more of your BS rationalizations

[femrap]

44. No one called you a racist?

Just unpatriotic...ummm. Sounds like Bush, doesn't it?

They've been watching too much American Idol and I guess 'hope' does nasty things to people.:rofl:

Maybe it is a cult???

[anamandujano]

96. Yet.

[Tennessee Gal]

45. I guess no one will bother to read what I actually wrote. Never mind.

[JohnnyLib2]

48. Stand strong, T-Gal.

A lot of rebuilding (Democratic and national) will be needed and you are
one of the good-guy builders. :thumbsup:

[Forkboy]

49. These days I take being called unpatriotic as a compliment.

Sorry it happened to you if it bothers you, but what did you really expect from GD-P when you say you won't vote for one messiah or the other? :shrug:

[Tennessee Gal]

51. Your are right. I should have known better.

[Forkboy]

57. There is no winning in GD-P.

If someone says Jesus walks on water someone will tell you it's only because he can't swim.

With links.... :)

[FrenchieCat]

54. Well, Obama gets called unpatriotic, and CNN makes it into a poll question....

so this poster has had it easy in my opinion. At least she said something that might give folks a rational much more than those who question Obama on this.

[KoKo]

77. Damn Straight! When sites that are supposed to be for Dems question one's Patriotism...

We ALL GOT A PROBLEM... The BUSH YEARS have become the "Loyalty Test Years!"

HEIL! :patriot:

[Mz Pip]

50. You don't believe in Obama?

It's not like he's the Tooth Fairy or something. :eyes:

[Tennessee Gal]

56. I don't believe he is good for the Democratic Party.

I know. I should have clarified.

[Mz Pip]

66. Anyone who

gets people interested in the process is good for the party. He may not be 'your' candidate but you cannot deny that he is getting people interested in politics.

We have Presidential election turnouts that get to 40%. That sucks. Our country was founded on the premise of having an electorate that was part of the process. That at least showed up once every 2 years to vote. We haven't had that in a long time. Now we do, partly because Obama has people paying attention.

Why is ths a bad thing?

[Tennessee Gal]

69. That is a good question.

Perhaps I am leary of the depth behind it and whether or not Obama will be all that successful at governing.

[Mz Pip]

76. That's really true of anyone

who holds the office. Who really knows how anyone will govern? I never imagined Bush would be as bad as he was. I knew he wouldn't do much for the things I believed are important but to really really screw things up this bad? It's been far worse than I thought possible.

I don't believe for one minute that either Obama or Hillary will be able to fulfill all of their campaign promises. I've been around too long to believe that.

I'll be happy if we make some progress with health care, start withdrawing from Iraq and get some sane people on the SCOTUS.

Politics IMHO is promising the moon and hopefully delivering a piece of cheese.

[Tennessee Gal]

84. My concerns about SCOTUS would be the only reason for voting for Obama.

And it would really just be a vote against McCain.

[Mz Pip]

89. In the grand scheme of things

it's enough for me, no matter who our candidate is.

Anybody but McCain.

I am a realist. I don't expect much from the government. That way I'm not disappointed. BUt I do want a sane SCOTUS because, in the final analysis, SCOTUS decides how things will be for decades. Not just 4 years. Decades. :scared:

[Yael]

55. You are at level 4 -- you said you weren't voting for the nom in November

I personally questioned you, based on your stated support of JRE if you think he would be proud of that stance given that we are trying to end a war.

You can cry about it all you want (or characterize it as patriotism or devotion), but I stand behind the inquiry.

[Tennessee Gal]

58. Level 4? Huh?

[grantcart]

60. 48 hours + 7 days

devotion? patriotism? no not at all its that your narcissitic.

90% of the people don't 'believe' in Obama. We all started with other candidates. And he beat us like a drum.

Because we don't hold our own 'beliefs' to be sacred we submitted to the wisdom of the process and of the party. Some went

to Hillary and some to Obama. One by one the candidates we supported were vanquished and we moved on. HRC has been vanquished in 11

straight landslide losses. She continues even though there is no mathematical way that she can make up the diffence given we have

proportional division of delegates on a CD by CD basis. Schumer has admitted it.

So don't take the defeat gracefully. Mock it by saying you don't believe in it. You are holding yourself to be smarter, purer than

everyone else. Only you can maintain the sanctity of your belief system.

HRC supporters talk about Obama being a cult. Give me a break. Its the Clinton supporters who act as if their chosen divinely

appointed Queen is being robbed of her rightful heritage.

It was a contest. She lost.

Oh and by the way a lot of us who supported other candidates before Obama were open enough to actually give Obama a careful listening

and studied what he was all about. Funny substance and style don't have to be mutually exclusive. Now we realize that the system

was right and we were wrong.

Your (and the others expressing similar opinions) are not evil, just conceited. Eleven straight landslide victories and you are

still smarter than everyone else. For the sincere Clinton supporter I have the same empathy as I do as the Kucinich,Dodd,Biden,

Edwards, and Richardson supporter. But for those that hold on that they cannot compromise their lofty ideals by sullying themselves

supporting Barack Obama, give me a break. You don't believe in a guy that actually turned away from the easy life and the millions

to work with poor people as a community organizer?

In 2 days the decision will be in. We have to listen to this self indulgent clap trap for 7 more days. Then it will be left to the

those who remain, some 100% Obama some 90%, some 80% 70% 60%, to take on the establishment stop the war and begin to restructure

this society. If you cannot get yourself to 51% Obama then get out of the way.

[KoKo]

83. What an ATTITUDE! Got a Chip?

worrisome to see it here...in all it's glory....:eyes:

[grantcart]

111. The chip is the attitude that Hillary Clinton supporters deserve special

treatment above that of any of the other supporters. That they have been more wounded than others that have been defeated. Well my friend its not about the supporters its about power. This is not a card game. I spent 10 fucking years in refugee camps working with people whose lives have been destroyed by war. This is about stopping war, ending poverty and stopping global warming. Your boutique candidate gets defeated - tough shit, move on just like 90% of the other folks in here who saw their brilliant candidate lose. Eleven straight landslide losses and anyother candidate would have been laughed of the stage.

[Shae]

117. I liked the attitude

Thanks for the excellent post.

[Orangepeel]

63. You posted that you may not vote in the general election on a Democratic message board.

I don't get your outrage. You were probably just venting, but what did you expect?

Anybody who posts that they are considering not voting for the Democratic nominee if that nominee is __________ is going to have quite a bit of negative energy directed their way no matter who the __________ is.

[Tennessee Gal]

64. You are right.

[stop the bleeding]

68. WOW

:kick:just vote DEM in the GE and we never questioned your patriotism:patriot:

[Orangepeel]

91. venting is one of the benefits of DU

Although it is much more therapeutic when everyone is on the same side. :D

Obama was actually my second choice, albeit one I am happy with. (I supported Edwards, too).

[eileen_d]

67. OMG it's logic!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[KoKo]

86. Will we have to wear "FLAG PINS?" Is that what it means to be a Dem?

Lock Step... Even though we won't have a nominee until August...we should shut up and :patriot:

You are very scary...but then you don't find fascism frightening ...do you? :shrug:

[eileen_d]

90. Where do you get that from her post?

Honestly... :shrug:

[Orangepeel]

92. thanks, eileen!

:D

[Armstead]

78. I just question why you have such animosity towards Obama

He may not be your cup of tea exactly. He wasn't my first choice -- which was John Edwards (and wishing that Kucinich were more politically viable).

But he's generated a lot of enthusiasm, and I honestly don;t see what is so offensive about him.

Frankly, I can;t understand why anyone who could write so eloquently about liberalism can sup

[Tennessee Gal]

82. John was my first choice.

I am no big Hillary fan. I just have concerns about Obama.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

109. .

[AZBlue]

93. What a self-serving post. Should we all post everything we write elsewhere & glowing reviews of it?

[KoKo]

99. Were you a poster on BuzzFlash?

This site is hardly what BuzzFlash has been.... As nice as DU is...Buzz was a Powerhouse.

[AZBlue]

101. No but that's not the point.

I have posted elsewhere - can I start threads with all those other posts? Or is it only BuzzFlash that's allowed?

Now I really wonder, "WTF"?!?

[kid a]

102. buzzflash would be appalled at your current DU threads

[MadHound]

105. Actually the reason your patriotism was questioned wasn't because you don't believe in Obama

It is because you're acting like a spoiled whiny brat, stating that if Hilary doesn't get the nomination, you could very well not be voting come November. Voting is indeed the duty of every citizen of this country, and your refusal to do so just because Hillary didn't get the nomination is nothing more than petulant grandstanding.

Don't want your patriotism questioned? Then don't shirk your duty as a citizen in order to throw a temper tantrum.

[CyberPieHole]

106. Obama and W are cut from the same cloth...

and the same type of blind faith follows each one.

:kick: and rec

[FrenchieCat]

107. Don't fool yourself, dear.....

it doesn't look good.

[eileen_d]

108. Even though they back completely different policies?

Your theory has a gaping hole in it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

110. frenzied o feedings are ugly

[Umbram]

112. Wow, so you found some idiots online, really? Shocker. nt.

[stevedeshazer]

113. Just because you gloss yourself with praise doesn't mean you're right

If you don't believe in Obama, fine. But spare us the self-aggrandizing maudlin crap.

I've posted on Buzzflash, too. BFD.

Get over it. Jeez.