"My husband didn't wrap it up until June" Is there a basis for this parallel argument?

[kid a]

Was Bill Clinton, in 1992, ever in the delegate situation Hillary is in?

[sandnsea]

1. Not according to this map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_1992

[Cha]

2. More clawing and desperate

scratching from clinton.

[kid a]

3. thank you - i just found that too

:hi:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. Lol.

[Lucinda]

11. Your link didn't work for me.

What were the state and delegate breakdowns at March 1st in that campaign?

[blogslut]

4. Actually, that election was unique

Bill Clinton won because Ross Perot split the Republican vote.

[WVRevy]

6. Which is relevant for the GENERAL election...

...not the primary. In the general, he may not have hit the "magic number" until June, but he had the nomination wrapped up WELL before that, and Hillary knows it.

[blogslut]

8. True

I just wanted to remind people that Bill Clinton won his first term because of a fractured Republican party. It wasn't easy and I'm damned glad he won.

But as you state, he was most definitely the preferred candidate, elsewise they wouldn't have given him the sweet spot in the speaking lineup or played Fleetwood Mac at the end of the event.

:hi:

[housewolf]

9. Actually, he was winning

but California's primary wasn't until June, and, if I remember correctly, Clinton needed California's vote to give him the majority he needed for the nomination.

The primary schedule was very different then, not front-loaded like it is this year.

[tritsofme]

12. That's an old Republican lie that has gained acceptance by far too many.

Exit polls from 1992 showed that more or less, if Perot was not a candidate, his voters would split evenly between Clinton and Bush.

[blogslut]

14. But he did run

And I would love to read any links containing attribution on these exit polls from 1992.

[tritsofme]

18. This is what a five second google brought up.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh062905.shtml

The information is out there if you look for it.

[blogslut]

19. Okay

Then why did it take you 3 hours? ;)

Perhaps the polling is correct.

I reply that we cannot know how the vote would have gone because Ross Perot forced voters to think differently. Hell, his campaign gave birth to the Liberal party. Perot caused a rift. He made GB look bad. He made Bill Clinton look quite sane, I'll give you that.

Ross Perot was a wild card. An absolute spoiler. Of that, there is no doubt. The man got almost 20 million votes in the GE. GB only got 39 million. Clinton got about 45 million. When it comes to shares, that's a pretty even split.

[Nine]

15. Thank you. nt

[housewolf]

7. No, because he didn't have any contenders that were as strong as Obama

There were 5 contenders for the Dem Prez nomination in 1992 - Harkin (Iowa), Paul Tsongas (Massachusetts, I think), Bob Kerrey (Nebraska), Jerry Brown (California) & Bill Clinton (Arkansas). Some had some early wins, and Bill Clinton didn't lost the first 2 or 3 caucus/primaries and then finally started winning. In fairly short order, but not right away, Tsongas, Harkin & Kerrey dropped out. Clinton & Jerry Brown duked it out to the convention where Jerry finally released his delegates to Clinton. I don't remember how many delegates Jerry Brown had, but no wheres near half. At that time, there were only a few states scheduled for Super Tuesday, the primary schedule stretched out and California's primary wasn't held until June, so there was at least 1 big state with a lot of delegates not voting until June.

Jerry Brown never dropped out. His delegates were able to move the Dem platform in a more progressive direction than Clinton would have liked and he was able to gain some progressive concessions from the Clinton campaign by staying in until the convention. There was never any question, though, about whether he would or would not support Clinton in the end - everyone knew that he would.

Jerry Brown's campaign was a pioneering campaign - he only accepted donations from individuals, $100 max contributions, and was the first candidate to use a 1-800 number for making campaign contributions. He drove around in a little mini-van instead of taking corporate or leased jets. It was a revolutionary campaign for its time.

[Lucinda]

10. ...

[pdxmom]

13. No, there isn't. Just like there was no basis for her statement that her

husband didn't win caucuses either. These are both untruths.

[GoreVidalIsGod]

16. The fat lady is warming up, boys!

[Zhade]

17. Another lie from Clinton. This is getting predictable.

NT!

[hfojvt]

20. she told this lie a couple of weeks ago too though

I remember debunking it then. Or maybe it was right after Wisconsin, whenever that was.