Who thinks it's time to bury the hatchets?

[Padraig18]

There was a fair amount of animosity between various and sundry camps here at DU during the primary (Kerry/Dean, Clark/Edwards, etc.), but our nominee is now known, and history will judge how this came to be. That said, who thinks it's time for ALL the camps to 'bury the hatchet' (NOT in each other, btw :P ), and get on with the business of figuring out how we're going to evict those squatters from the People's House?

:)

[bain_sidhe]

1. Other! The fact that it has to be said

by now is maddening!

Ok, I lied. I actually voted "I'm There." But still, I'm incredibly discouraged that there still are folks out there swinging the hatchet wildly.

[Padraig18]

3. Note the 'I'll hold my grudge until the day I die' votes.

I mean, REALLY--- grow UP, people! :grr:

[Piperay]

10. Yes and I wish they

would explain why they are so bitter and angry. :shrug:

[Padraig18]

12. Reminds me of the sign at the edge of town in Toledo, IL...

"Welcome to Toledo, home to 1288 nice people and 12 old soreheads". :P

[Ediacara]

28. Hey.... that's the same sign outside of Rudyard MT sort of

"596 nice people -- one old sore head"

[bain_sidhe]

25. Grow up? I'd say

WAKE UP!!

We got one chance to stop this fascist juggernaut. Kerry's IT. Sorry my guy didn't get it. Sorry your guy didn't get it. But dammit, quicherbitchin an' get to work! We've got a country to save!!

(P.S. Thank heavens (and Elad, of course) for "my posts"!! Can't believe this sunk off the first page while I was gone!)

**edit to fix formatting**

[bigwillq]

2. It's about time

I have for the most part. I have fully supported Kerry and will continue to only talk positive about him and his campiagn.

I decided this about a few weeks after Dean dropped. I am very proud of Dean helping Kerry and if Dean thinks enough of Kerry to really get out and support him than there is no need for me to hold any grudge against Kerry. We need to beat the shrub.

I do, however, still dislike those who attack Dean and lately I've been paying them no mind but sometimes I have to throw my opinion in. But I'm getting better.

[Padraig18]

5. Oh, I understand-- trust me.

There are some individual posters here I will probably never respect, simply because of the absolute vitriol contained in their postings during the campaign; that said, I'm fully behind Kerry, and will bust my arse to see that's he becomes our next President. :)

[LuminousX]

7. Being able to separate the candidate and the candidate's supporters

If people can't do this, they have issues with reality.

I never disguised my contempt for Kerry but in 2004, he will be my President.

[bigwillq]

9. There's no need to bash anymore

And that goes for all the candidates current and former. I think lately I am getting more upset at the people who are bashing Kerry than at those who are bashing Dean.

For those who don't know, I wasn't ever very fond of Kerry even up to the last few months but now that he is our nominee we really need to support. Yes, there are some things I may disagree with but he is 1 million and behind times better than shrub.

[IndianaGreen]

4. I am sharpening my hatchet

in order to use it on Bush/Cheney and their defeat in November.

I fully endorse your idea, Padraig18.

[fujiyama]

6. Hell yeah!

Sounds good. I want to see this administration fall soooooo badly!

[Crunchy Frog]

8. I think the hatchets should stay out and sharpened

and be used vigorously, at least until a running mate has been chosen, and for awhile longer after that, since many people will be deeply unhappy about that choice, and will need time, either to come to terms with it, or to appropriately rub other peoples noses in it.:P

After that, the hatchets should go into storage, at least until the November election. Then they should come out again if Kerry doesn't win, when we should all whack each other over the heads with recriminations, and "I told you so's".:7

Sorry to be such a cynic, but I think it is the only realistic scenario for what will actually happen here. :evilgrin:

[BootinUp]

31. lol

a classic lol.

[RichM]

11. OK, here's my very reasonable proposal for a cease-fire.

Everyone shall herewith acknowledge that the nomination of a pro-war Democrat is a complete disgrace, & that Democrats in general do not deserve to be regarded as a real "opposition party."

Mr. Kerry shall be regarded as a lousy shameful badly compromised candidate, whose only legitimate claim to popular support is that he's the lesser evil. Herunder, it shall be acknowledged, without further protestation, that Kerry's contortions attempting to justify his shameful IWR vote for the past year were nothing more than lies and verbal gymnastics aimed at playing both sides of the fence simultaneously.

Everyone further acknowledges that Kerry's stunts from this week (trying to out-Bush Bush from the right on Haiti, Spain & Venezuela; and kissing up to corporations with his "tax plan") are nauseating, and call into question the margin by which he is supposedly the lesser evil.

There. That's not too much to ask, is it? O8) O8)

[Padraig18]

13. Does it also require a pint of blood?

Or will a pound of flesh be acceptable, as a substitute? :P

[RichM]

16. No, all offerings of blood & flesh are entirely optional.

You see? Am I not the very soul of gentle compromise? O8)

[Padraig18]

19. LOL!

You are most gracious and kind, m' Lord. ;)

[emulatorloo]

14. Not according to my dictionary!

:-)

http://www.merriam-webster.com

One entry found for reasonable.

Main Entry: rea·son·able
Pronunciation: 'rEz-n&-b&l, 'rE-z&n-&-b&l
Function: adjective
1 a : being in accordance with reason <a reasonable theory>b : not extreme or excessive <reasonable requests> c :MODERATE, FAIR <a reasonable chance> <a reasonableprice> d : INEXPENSIVE
2 a : having the faculty of reason b : possessing sound judgment

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. The Kerry at all costs contingent is always happy to have your

merciless criticism. O8)O8)

Did you bring along a few high fivers to fawn this post?

[mouse7]

29. My feelings on that idea...

[AntiCoup2K4]

15. I thought we were done with the loyalty oath crap?

Bottom line is this: I live in a reasonably "safe" state where I probably won't have to vote at all, but I likely will just to insure the removal of Bush. Therefore I will vote against Bush using the most effective means currently possible. Interpret that how you will, but the conclusion is obvious. (Hint for the clueless: It ain't Ralphie!)

I will not say I support John Kerry, nor will I say I support a platform written by the DLC and corporate whores like Maria Cantwell (there's a vote I really regret), because I DON'T. I'm neither a liar, nor a hypocrite, and frankly the entire way this primary was done was complete BULLSHIT, and even those who are and were Kerry supporters from the beginning know damn well that's the fact. Hey, if my guy won through someone else's underhanded sleazy tricks, I wouldn't want to believe it either.

I'm not pissed because Dean got screwed. I'm pissed because millions of people, the majority of the Democratic party will once again have no representation in the process. The DLC agenda might be slightly more tolerable than Bush's agenda, but that doesn't mean we should pretend it's good enough.

And I have a feeling the choice of running mate will reinforce the DLC/PNAC stranglehold on the party. If Kerry actually picked a progressive running mate, I'd applaud him for making at least one move in the right direction. God knows he hasn't done much of that in the last 3 1/2 years.

[Padraig18]

18. Its not a 'loyalty oath'.

It's an exhortation to cease the juvenile histrionics/'hissy fits' that are little more than 'sour grapes' from certain supporters of candidates other than Sen. Kerry. :)

[Bill Todd]

17. I thought the "No, it's not quite time yet" choice looked kind of lonesome

so I gave it a hit.

I don't actually hold a great deal of animosity toward anyone, just a fair amount of disgust. And I don't want those people with whom I'm disgusted in control of my party, any more than I want the neocons with whom I'm disgusted in control of my country.

So I'll be swinging my hatchet at those people (both types noted above) until they're out of power, however long that takes. And then I'll cheerfully put the hatchet down, because as long as they stop dominating my party and my country live and let live sounds like a good plan to me.

Now, if I see progress toward that end within the party, and evidence of a return to more traditional Democratic values, before November, I'll gladly start skipping some swings and take time out to vote, and even get out other votes, for Kerry. Otherwise, I'll just swing away until a better opportunity to prune the tree presents itself.

- bill

[union_maid]

20. Well, I voted yes, but....

...in light of some of the responses, I'd have to say that was a mistaken vote. I didn't have all the information. Now I do.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

22. I am already supporting Kerry...

To the tune of $1000.

That said, my opinion of many of the posters in the D.U. really could not go much lower. I find it easier to read the news on the Free Republic. Those people are supposed to be crazed, but compared to the flaming idiot partisans we have in the D.U. - many of whom seem to be walking unintentional advertisements for the GOP - they're often quite tame.

Well, I guess Kerry can't get picky about his supporters. He needs 'em all.

- C.D.

[ulysses]

23. I voted "Ehhh...".

I can follow my own best lights without promising to make nice with the folks who'd (still) like to drum every last vocal liberal out of the party.

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. I like your sig line, ulysses.

:)

[scarletwoman]

26. Voted "ehhh..."

Until the day comes that we can have a Kucinich thread here that's free of rude, snide and insulting posts from Kerry supporters, I frankly don't give a damn what the rest of you do.

sw

[nolabels]

27. Other here

Any thing is Okay with me, I just want to keep pounding on the fraud known as *, excuse me for my indulgence

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[Capn Sunshine]

30. They were buried long ago

can you help me pull this one out of my back?
:hi:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

32. Sure...

:D