Wes Clark mentioned in the news as possible VP candidate.

[Auntie Bush]

Good article called "Kerry's Cabinet could Steal the Show"
in the Examiner (San Francisco)

http://www.examiner.com/article/index.cfm/i/031504c_fuchs

My favorite paragraph. :smile:

"The odds-on favorite is retired Gen. Wesley Clark. Don't be surprised if Kerry turns to Clark as a way to cushion the one thing Bush has going for him in this election: national security. Even though Clark only carried Oklahoma, he is the favorite of the insiders in the Democratic Leadership Council and has the backing of both Clintons."

[goclark]

1. Weslark would be a VP for Our Country...

An a uniter all over the world!

He is my man for all seasons.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Leilani]

13. "A Man for all Seasons"

That's a great thought, goclark!

[H2O Man]

2. That would be great!

I think Clark would be the strongest choice for VP in light of the national security debate. I think that it would leave room for Edwards for Attorney General. I am hoping that Kerry makes a selection fairly soon, so that the response to the bush/cheney attacks can be taken to a new level. I think the republican administration knows it's in for a thrashing.

[dogman]

3. He's qualified

As long as B*** leads Kerry in the polls on National Security and with the Clarke revelations this would be a natural conclusion. If the choice were to be made today Clark has to be favored. It's a long way to the convention and with time factors may change and a different choice might be logical.

[MuseRider]

4. I think Clark

would indeed be a strong VP for Kerry. He only won Oklahoma? He could have won a few more if he had stayed in IMO. Kansas seemed pretty excited about him.

[cosmokramer]

19. Before he got out...

He had finished better than anyone OTHER than Kerry, actually. Close race in AZ and NM (where Clark finished 2nd) and a second in ND. Ahead of Edwards in NH, too.

[Eurobabe]

5. oh be still my beating heart!!

[MoonRiver]

6. This is awesome news!

I think Kerry has the sense to ask Clark, and Clark has the patriotism to accept!


:loveya: General Clark!!!!

[DaveSZ]

7. I agree that Kerry needs to keep himself in the media

One thing that he can do to attract media attention, as has been mentioned, would be to take a trip to the Arctic Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to announce his bold new 20/20 energy plan that will also create many new jobs by investing in science and technology.

Many economists say that renewable energy research could also help lead to another economic boom.

Kerry can then also use the beautiful backdrop to tell people where Bush will drill if he wins another 4 years:


http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=11776


I read an article earlier about how the GOP was worried that they'd be vulnerable on the environmental issue, and Kerry needs to milk it.

[DaveSZ]

9. PICS of ANWAR:

http://www.calacademy.org/exhibits/anwr/

(to emphasize my point about the scenery)


I think if enough people saw those pictures they'd be outraged that Bush has been trying to drill there hehe.

[flpoljunkie]

33. Thanks for posting this link on ANWR. Gorgeous photos! Here's one...

You must really click on DaveSZ's ANWR link and view them all!

[Auntie Bush]

12. That's a super idea!

Hope he'll do it and it would be a great fun and exciting vacation
to boot.

[Bombtrack]

8. I've never heard of this columnist. And I don't wonder why

I'm willing to bet they couldn't substantiate alot of those claims. And she goes by the same idiotic primary-parallel-to-general electablility/appeal logic about both Clark and Edwards.

[dogman]

11. Kill the messenger

Same tactic being used on Clarke. Don't discuss the facts presented.

[Bombtrack]

25. I'm discussing exactly that. Lack of facts!!

Jesus.

[bain_sidhe]

16. Not very knowledgeable

He can do that by naming his cabinet. If he chooses Edwards for veep, he can name Clark as defense secretary.

How many times has it been noted here that Clark can't be Defense Secretary because he hasn't been out of the military long enough. Sheesh, my CAT knows Clark can't be sec'y of Defense.

Still, I love to see the idea out there... There was a NYT article that went through the odds on "all" the possible VP picks - except that it didn't even MENTION Clark.

[Leilani]

21. Poop!

Poop!

[OKNancy]

31. It's a "he"

Jerry Fuchs is the associate publisher of the San Francisco Examiner.
You just don't like it because it doesn't agree with you.

[Blasphemer]

10. Clark would be a good choice...

But I disagree about naming a cabinet, especially one that includes Clinton or Gore. First off, it would come across as very presumptuous. There is no way the media would portray it in a positive light. If there is any hint of Clinton being in Kerry's Cabinet, they would unleash the hounds.

[H2O Man]

18. I don't think anyone has

mentioned anything about Clinton being picked. I suppose some of the republicans might try to slide it in on serious conversations. But no democrats will.

[Blasphemer]

23. I agree..

I also can't imagine any democrats seriously bringing it up, but since the columnist put it out there as if it would be some media coup, I had to comment. I think he's really out to lunch with some of his reasoning.

[madmax]

14. Thanks - you made my day

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[cosmokramer]

15. WoooHooo...the San Fran Examiner, nonetheless!

Good, reliable paper!

Salute, General!

By the way, I read somewhere that Kerry raised the MOST money in his online fundraiser the day CLARK's picture was on his homepage...does anyone have the link?

[DaveSZ]

17. The war heroes vs. the chicken hawks

I like it. :)

Let's get General Zinni and that other general who endorsed Clark earlier in his campaign on board as well.

[cosmokramer]

20. The reason...

...the General's chest is so big is not just from the swimming...it's all those medals and ribbons on his chest!

[goclark]

34. Saw that picture and gave my $$

When I saw that picture of Wes Clark on the Kerry website, my heart skipped real beats.
Got my wallet out and clicked in some bucks.

Go Wes Go Kerry Go Wes Go Kerry

:yourock:

[Leilani]

22. I Still Think a Clark/Cheney debate would be Priceless!

I do not see any other candidate who can go toe-to-toe with Dick Cheney in a debate, & also let it be known that Cheney never put on a uniform when his country called him!

[cosmokramer]

41. Clark would wipe the floor with Cheney...EASILY!

[Gloria]

24. It's the mention of his being a favorite of the party and Clintons that

is the big news for me...First time I've seen that mentioned...

If this comes true my original prediction a few weeks ago will be right and I won't have to eat whatever I said I would eat if I was wrong! LOL

But ...at the Unity thing...Kerry specifically thanked Clark for being his surrogate. He thanked Edwards for fundraising, but he said Clark was his surrogate. He's on vacation and Clark is doing all the heavy lifting ahead of Clarke. And with Clarke being smeared, who else to continue going out there?

What does a VP do but act as the surrogate for the President for many things???? (including being incapacitated)

This will go on til Nov., this national security stuff. Clark is the man...

[Bombtrack]

26. Actually it say's EDWARDs is the favorite of the party+Clark of the DLC

but it's more than likely that this person is just pulling this out of his or her ass. I really doubt that some nobody who's journalistic writing level isn't above most freepers has an inside track on the DLC, or the Clintons.

[Leilani]

27. I know you want to shoot the messenger

if it's Wes Clark news.

But under his name, it says he is associate publisher.

[cosmokramer]

28. You know what it is like...

...anything favorable to Clark is totally discredited by those who have their own wishes and hopes. Associate publisher of the SF Exam. is OUTSTANDING praise and a great source.

[Padraig18]

30. I've observed EXACTLY the same thing about anything favorable to JRE.

Odd, how that happens, isn't it, cosmo? Pot, kettle, black, perhaps?

[dogman]

29. Edwards is the favorite of what Party?

Talk about freepers. This article is clearly identified as an opinion. Any opinion that does not agree with yours is to be immediately discounted? You think you can pull Edwards out of your ass and claim him as the favorite. I don't particularly care who Kerry chooses as long as we can win with that choice and they are truly qualified for the position. As this person pointed out Lieberman was a poor choice. I think Lieberman is more qualified than Edwards. I don't even think Edwards is qualified to be AG. But these are simply opinions.

[Bombtrack]

35. I'm not for Edwards as vp either

This article presents facts not yet in evidence to back up their opinion, and therfor is anti-journalistic.

[Padraig18]

36. Yeah, it's an opinion piece.

I'm happy for the Claek people, because it's always nice to read something good about your candidate, but it's hardly Holy Writ...

[Bombtrack]

38. But in the opinion piece, the "journalist" presents statements as if they

were facts. When clearly it's just more opinion. And I resent your statement that I never cease to jump on Clark or Edwards in a negative light. I supported them both in the presidential primary and I continue to say Edwards would make a pretty good vp choice.

[Padraig18]

39. Whaaaa?

What statement? I think you have me confused with someone else...

[dogman]

37. Excuse me, please.

I misinterpreted your subject line. Yes this is one man's opinion not news reporting. As I posted above I believe there is solid reasoning for his opinion about Clark. I assume by your avatar you might support Graham who has much of the same background in these matters as Clark. I believe that's why they are friends and respect each other.

[VOX]

32. I like Clark, but whoa! This is an *opinion* column, not "news."

The column "Nobody Asked Me, But..." by Jerry Fuchs is not a reportage of news. Rather, it is one person's opinion.

Fuchs is just playing the same parlor-room guessing game as the rest of us.

[BootinUp]

40. *crosses finger, tosses salt over shoulder, rubs rabbit foot*

*sigh*

Wes Clark for VP!

[robbedvoter]

42. Author may find a horse's head on his pillow - violated "Omerta" on Clark

Didn't he know that it's verbotten to mention his name? It was during his campaign and it is during the VP selection. It was in the memo damn it!
Conason said they'll do their best to stop it.
Wes Clark can go on TV 9 times a day - no comment. Richard Clarke may repeat word by word what Wes said in August - no mention.

[texasmom]

43. I love it!

I completely agree that the place Bush, for whatever unknown reason, seems to have the edge on Kerry is national security. Clark would help Kerry steal the edge back.
Thanks for posting!

[fujiyama]

44. It would make a great team...

My mom recently said that she also agreed that Clark would make a good VP after he was making the rounds -- and she didn't really like him during the primaries. I have also noticed that he seems more improved and more relaxed (same goes with Dean).

Clark has been doing a great job defending Clarke and hitting the asmin where it matters by making the case that attacking Iraq has UNDERMINED the War on Terror. This is crucial and very important.

Graham could also make that case. Edwards is great for economic issues, but that's not really where Kerry's percieved weakness lays.

Either way, I'd be glad with Edwards, Clark, or Graham on the ticket. I just hope Gephardt or even worse, Evan Bayh aren't chosen. While I don't mind Gep, he's just way too old school, and Bayh simply is too far to the right, and is boring as hell.

[Mobius]

45. Great news, but the wait for VP is killing me

when do you think kerry will announce? Its notlike he has to wait till the convention anymore. Get Clark in there now to go in for the kill with all of the iraq testimony crap going on.

[Carolinian]

46. So? Who cares?

What's one article by one reporter supporting Clark? One little compliment and you idiots have to plaster it all over hell and half of Georgia.

Well, here's where I stand: I will vote against any ticket that Clark is on. I used to pity him, but felt he was kinda OK. But now that I've been reading his blog everyday, I've decided I will work against Clark just like his followers have worked against Edwards.

[Cuban_Liberal]

47. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face.

Forget the asshats posting over there--- that's just sour grapes. Keep focused on what's important--- beating Bush.

[Auntie Bush]

48. Sure hope everyone else knows not to base their

vote due to a dislike of a blog...but votes for POTUS because of the issues and the love of America and the direction the candidate wants to take our country.

[JI7]

49. well, can you be more specific ?

how come you never liked clark ? i have always been a big john kerry supporter and was never a clark supporter. but i always said i would support clark or any other candidate who won the primary. so why did you pity clark ?

[Leilani]

52. I see you have received no reply

Just another little messenger dropping turds into the middle of a discussion.

[JI7]

53. most other comments

by this person have been the same. it's mostly things like, "i don't like him" but never any reason or explanation.

[Renew Deal]

51. It's been a while since Clark supporters have been called idiots.

It reminds me of the old days.

[robbedvoter]

57. Hey, it's OK - since they are imaginary anyway. Only dean has

a movement, only edwards is from the south, only Richard Clarke spoke about
9.11 and bait and switch to Iraq. Wes Clark is a figment of your imagination - and so am I.

[Adelante]

54. If you go by blogs

I happened to be at the Edwards blog recently and I think Kerry supporters would be surprised at the venom spewing forth against the Democratic candidate, but it's likely the opinions of a vocal few. Don't highhat about bloggers, it's silly. There are all sorts of opinions, but Clark supporters in the vast majority are now Kerry supporters, while a few remain who are not. We're not going to throw them out the door, they are still Clark supporters and entitled to their opinions. I imagine that's how it works at the Edwards blog, as well. There are anonymous posters at the Clark blog who claim to be Edwards supporters and cause a great deal of strife. But then there are people who drop in here, put on an avatar, and begin leaving divisive posts in thread after thread. I'm not quickly convinced someone who claims to be an Edwards supporter or another person's supporter is who he or she claims to be. We're all just anonymous online posters until enough time passes and trust is built. Until then...

Pity Wes Clark?

[Renew Deal]

50. Bullshit. Clarke is a republican

Ha, got you on that one ;)

[Adelante]

55. You did not

I saw your name first

[robbedvoter]

56. And we only want McCain - because he'll stay that way and

he is part of W's reselection committee. Clark pretends to be a liberal democrat and that smacks of hypocrisy - we don't trust no liberals!