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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:41 PM
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Dear Senator Clinton:
If you don't do well on Tuesday, please spend some time alone reflecting on the best thing to do. Get away from all the consultants and advisors for a little while- even Bill. If you lose either TX or OH, you must know that there's no way to gain the nomination short of tearing the party apart- and that would make your own candidacy in the Fall, a doomed one.

I understand that you believe you're the best candidate and that you think you'd be a better President than Obama, but if you pursue the nomination under those circumstances you gain nothing and you lose virtually everything.

You've fought hard for the nomination; no one would deny that, but there comes a time when you have to make a tough decision about what's best for the Democratic party and the country as a whole. Determining that you have a chance, no matter how slim, and deciding to soldier on, is not the right answer.

I believe you have the best interests of the democratic party and the country at heart. So if you have a bad day on Tuesday, please don't sacrifice the party to your ambition. Withdraw gracefully, endorse Obama heartily and return to the Senate.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:45 PM
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1. Let's hope (nm)
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:45 PM
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2. Dear Senator Obama:
If you don't do well on Tuesday, please spend some time alone reflecting on the best thing to do. Get away from all the consultants and advisors for a little while- even Michelle. If you lose either TX or OH, you must know that there's no way to gain the nomination short of tearing the party apart- and that would make your own candidacy in the Fall, a doomed one.

I understand that you believe you're the best candidate and that you think you'd be a better President than Hillary, but if you pursue the nomination under those circumstances you gain nothing and you lose virtually everything.

You've fought hard for the nomination; no one would deny that, but there comes a time when you have to make a tough decision about what's best for the Democratic party and the country as a whole. Determining that you have a chance, no matter how slim, and deciding to soldier on, is not the right answer.

I believe you have the best interests of the democratic party and the country at heart. So if you have a bad day on Tuesday, please don't sacrifice the party to your ambition. Withdraw gracefully, endorse Hillary heartily and return to the Senate.






Who the hell do you Obama supporters think you are? She does not have to give in. It is you own wishful thinking. Get over yourselves. This is not locked up for him. If she wins OH she moves on, period. If you don't like it too bad. I want her to stay in to the convention, no matter what. So Hillary, don't let these bullies push you around, I know I don't even have to say that, you never do.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:48 PM
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5. See the difference is
Obama hasn't lost 11 straight, unlike Hillary. Hillary doesnt have an approximate 150 pledged delegate lead over Obama. Obama isn't losing the popular vote, even with MI and FL included.

How many firewalls does she have?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:50 PM
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6. Obama does not dictate this nor do his supporters.
This type of talk is not good for the party either.

Get over yourselves, we are in a primary season and stop trying to mold the argument to fit you needs and wants.

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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:55 PM
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11. She has not won a single day of delegates.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 05:31 PM by slick8790
Not a single one. 11 straight losses in primaries and caucuses in all parts of the country, with the smallest margin of victory being 15%. That is a rejection of Sen. Clinton, however you want to spin it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:52 PM
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9. Actually, you don't have a fucking clue in the world what she'd do
You just like to pretend you do. Like that bullshit you spouted about how you'd told her some stuff about Obama she should use in the OH debate. No one called you on that. Well, consider it done.

If she doesn't do well on Tuesday, Obama does have it pretty much wrapped up. And unlike some of her delusional supporters, I'm sure Senator Clinton knows that.

And your copying of my letter, addressed to Obama is fair enough if Obama gets blown out of the water in TX and OH on Tuesday. But we know that's not going to happen.

If she wins TX and OH on Tuesday, that's one thing, but is she loses either, continuing on will only result in her becoming a late night talk show punchline.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:56 PM
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12. Hey, cali...
Being angry at them, calling them "delusional" isn't going to change their minds.

I know it can be maddening when people refuse to acknowledge some of the facts here but they know those same facts. They're just choosing to "HOPE" that things turn around.

And even though Hillary's been making fun of hope lately, I can't begrudge them their desire to hope.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:56 PM
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13. Sure, stay in. Use the Huckabee math.
She would become an embarrassing caricature to stay to the convention after an OH and/or Texas loss.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:45 PM
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3. "If you don't do well on Tuesday........."
Dee Dee Myers was on Russert this morning, and she said she thinks that if Hillary doesnt win both Texas and Ohio Tuesday that Hillary will quit the race on Wednesday.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:48 PM
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4. That's the commitment Bill made in his speech
I think it's fair to expect them to live up to it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:50 PM
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7. and fulfill Cali's (repetitive) prophesy
:eyes:

BTW, she's really not listening to you.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:50 PM
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8. Ever creative ways to say "Hillary quit" -- heard them for weeks and weeks
Perhaps the Obamanation will be turned on its head Tuesday --- let's hope reason prevails.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:54 PM
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10. I wouldn't count on it
in fact I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if she fought all the way to the convention, hoping to seat the Mich. and Fla. delegates. One way or another, Hillary is going to drag the party down with her.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:57 PM
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14. Obama's lead would insulate him from Hillary's FL and MI.
They won't be seated, as is, anyway.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:00 PM
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15. Dear Cali:
Thank you for your concern. Don't quit your day job.

Hillary
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:13 PM
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16. Dear Cali
You don't represent Obama well.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:15 PM
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17. really? what's disrespectful about what I wrote?
Want to elaborate? I'm betting you don't. And I've seen some of your posts, and YOU are not one to talk. Furthermore, I often defend Senator Clinton against bullshit. Have YOU ever done the same for Obama?
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:33 PM
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21. I didn't mention "disrespect". I said that you do not represent
Obama well. I wonder how many Hillary supporters you've won over. I'd say zip, zero or nada.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:16 PM
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18. I'd love to see you write that same quitters letter if Obama was in a similar position
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:23 PM
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19. And I would.
But let's be clear, if Obama had lost 11 straight, he already would have dropped out. Furthermore, if someone said to me right now, "you can have Hillary Clinton as nominee, or a long fight all the way into the Convention", I'd take the former without a second thought. I do not think that a long drawn out fruitless fight serves dems well.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:31 PM
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20. You're saying that Obama would have dropped out by now had he been in her position?
But let's be clear, if Obama had lost 11 straight, he already would have dropped out.


I doubt it, not with some huge states coming up that could completely change the momentum. I don't think anyone would quit under the same circumstances Hillary is in.
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