Hillary Will Dropout Wednesday

[From The Left]

At this point, it's a numbers game.

Even if she wins Ohio and Rhode Island, but loses Texas and Vermont, she still won't have the necessary delegates to catch Barack Obama and her threats of legal action against the DNC (how Rovian) to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates, is going nowhere fast.

After Tuesday, it will be back to the senate for Mrs. Clinton and the Democrats will have a nominee and his name is Barack Obama!

[mtnsnake]

1. You Obama supporters sure are losing enough sleep over it

I wonder why.

[shadowknows69]

33. How about

We don't want President fucking McCain.

[JackORoses]

43. We are just tired of fighting in a bout where a TKO should have been called rounds ago

It is a wast of resources that could be aimed at McCain instead.

We have passed the point where Hillary can win this fairly.
Any other move she has will result in turmoil.

You Hillarites should be coming to terms and preparing to come together as a Party.
Instead you are digging more trenches and stringing up barbed wire.

[stratomagi]

56. I always

get this rush of anticipation on the day of the primaries. I imagine like me a lot of people feel the same way.

[bearfan454]

2. fucking eh!

Obama is the nominee for sure. Everyone I talk to here in Texas is for him instead of Hillary.

[gerrilea]

3. Where did you get this from, a wet dream you had?

[mtnsnake]

7. Most of them are having wet daydreams

by the sounds of it.

[mckeown1128]

15. It is actually worse than the OP had stated.

Mathematically: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4796681

I am... sorry... to be the one to break it to you. But, hmm...this is difficult to say.... the campaign didn't make it... Due to injuries sustained in Wisconsin and Maine... there... there was nothing the strategists could do... I know you might be feeling angry and depressed. But we have people here to help you through your grief.

[Unsane]

24. From the mouth of Bill Clinton lol?

He said himself she has to win both OH/TX.

[backscatter712]

4. From The Left speaks truth.

It's so late in the game that Obama would have to eat a baby on live TV to lose at this point.

If Clinton loses either Texas or Ohio, it's over. For that matter, if Clinton doesn't win both Texas and Ohio by a 25-30 point margin, she won't catch up to Obama in the delegate counts. And going by the numbers, neither Vermont nor Rhode Island have enough delegates to affect the counts significantly.

And if she doesn't catch up in pledged delegates, the supers are going to move to Obama en masse.

The fat lady sings on Tuesday Night. Clinton will be forced to admit it on Wednesday.

[From The Left]

10. Hill's Supporters are sore losers

The better stock up on the aspirin next Tuesday! LOL!

[backscatter712]

14. Asprin? They'd better stock up on the bourbon...

Ain't sore losers the truth!

[From The Left]

47. Comas All Around

[gerrilea]

23. Remember you all were warned! Beware of false prophets!

[From The Left]

48. The "False Prophet" Is Hillary

[NoPasaran]

37. Obama's shills are sore winners

Fuck you and fuck the media whores your Prince Charming rode in on!

[terrya]

40. That's something I don't get.

There is no question whatsoever that Obama is the front runner. I'll go so far to say that at this point, and if Obama wins Texas and Ohio, it's pretty much over. The momentum is clearly on Obama's side and Hillary has a very tough road ahead.

So, given all of that...why are some of the Obama supporters such poor winners? Some of them seem to go out of their way to be as nasty as possible towards the Hillary supporters here. Why?

[sendero]

54. Because y'all are such..

.... poor losers? Calling Obamaites cultists, saying he's nothing but talk, yadda yadda yadda.

You find your candidate has feet of clay and you blame us. That's why we're poor winners, and make no mistake, this race is OVER.

[cliffordu]

44. Tell us how you really feel, come on, let it all out......

:cry:

[Forrest Greene]

50. That's The Way

...to emphasize your credibility! Good show!

[davidinalameda]

18. fat lady? you must be sexist!

:sarcasm:

I would love nothing more than to wake up on Wednesday and see that Obama is the nominee for the Democratic Party!

[From The Left]

53. Woooooo hooooooooo!

[MannyGoldstein]

5. I Hope You're Right

But I expect that she's now on a personal mission to destroy Obama - in part so that she'll have a shot at 2012, in part because she's really, really angry at not getting her due.

[Prefer]

6. She could manipulate superdelegates though

even if Obama is in the lead, it's up to the super delegates.

[From The Left]

11. I don't think even HRC is that stupid

It would tear the party apart and cause voters to embrace McCain and even Nader.

[gerrilea]

21. Maybe the party should be torn down and rebuilt on a better foundation

one where this kind of crap isn't allowed or tolerated!

[backscatter712]

13. The superdelegates will abandon Clinton.

She used to have a 200+ superdelegate lead. Now she leads by less than 60. I think they know where the wind blows.

[Stuckinthebush]

20. That would be a major mistake

and a blow to the Party.

The voters would abandon her in droves.

[Thurston Howell III]

41. If she does that there will be so much bitterness that she will lose the GE!

[davidinalameda]

55. the super delegates know which way the wind is blowing

they'll drop off that sinking ship faster than anything

[Exilednight]

8. Hillary is slowly turnning into the Mike Huckabee of the Democratic Party ....

Her new motto will be I'm staying in until someone reaches 2025, even though I know it can't be me.

[backscatter712]

17. I can live with that.

Watch the media, the donors, the party and pretty much everyone else abandon Clinton, and watch as her campaign starves of oxygen...

[From The Left]

28. Hillary Is Lady Macbeth

Only more lethal.

[earthlover]

9. Obama does not have to win TX OR OH....all he needs to do is keep it close

Hillary needs 60%+ in both to have a CHANCE at catching up with Obama's 150 pledged delegate lead. Actually she needs more than that in ALL the remaining states! If she doesn't at least get 60% in TX AND OH, she will need even higher percentages in the remaining states as the number of contests gets smaller, and some of them are in Obama territory.

She will continue her race, however. Her only hope of actually getting the nomination at this point would not be pledged delegates or popular vote. She will have to hope she can "convince" enough super delegates to support her anyway. EVEN IF SHE PULLS THIS OFF....this would weaken/split the party and diminish our likelihood of success in November. It would have about the same effect as the Convention of 68...

[bearfan454]

12. Obama is ahead in Tx right now.

Obama will win Tx.

[From The Left]

22. 12 Polls

10 have Obama ahead. One has Hillary ahead. One has the pair tied.

Obama will win Texas by a comfortable margin.

[bearfan454]

27. OH. HELL. YES. nt

[IDemo]

32. All of these pollsters are presumably relying on Alexander Graham Bell technology

Many of Obama's supporters have cut the cord (I know I have). I'm guessing his actual numbers are higher.

[rucky]

16. Not before some serious Super-D arm-twisting.

Bill and Hill tag team.

[BooScout]

19. It must be nice to know everything.....

Gee I wish I was that smart.:eyes:

[gerrilea]

26. BooScout, you mean you don't know everything, what?!

Now you tell me, damn it!

:cry: :pals:

[rodeodance]

39. she does not rely on broken crystal balls for her 'knowledge" as the OP does.

[Zachstar]

31. You ought to be happy!

The faster she exits the better chance she has in 2012. The longer she stays.. the more damage she does to her political future.

She has LOST! Even if she wins BIG in Texas she will have to wait a month before the next BIG state. And she will have to deal with states in Obama territory. A whole MONTH like the last week we have seen of her meltdown. Such a time to give will destroy her political future beyond all chance of recovery.

And even if she SOMEHOW pulls off the nomination voters will have grown so tired of this the democrats will have lost every advantage they had this year against the republicans. And there will be little time to convince them otherwise!

She needs to exit now rather than let Texas and Ohio do more damage. However if she wants to see how those states think she can go ahead and take more days of damage.

[zulchzulu]

25. The tell-tale sign will be where Hillary is on Wednesday

If she is in New York, it's over. If she is in DC, it's over. If she is somewhere else, the race continues.

My guess is that she will be flying to New York on Tuesday night.

[From The Left]

29. Good point

[City Lights]

30. Hillary's problem is that she wasn't prepared for the primary season to

continue beyond ST. When it did she was caught flat-footed, which allowed Obama to rack up some huge victories. If she had been competitive in all the post-ST states, she wouldn't need blow-out victories on Tuesday to remain viable. Unfortunately for her, her lack of preparedness post-ST allowed Obama to run up not only the pledged delegate count, but the popular vote count as well.

The only way I see her remaining viable beyond Tuesday is if she wins TX and OH decisively. How long it takes her to come to terms with reality is anyone's guess, so I'll make no prediction about how long she'll try and stay in the race, regardless of how Tuesday plays out.

[rodeodance]

34. I think your crystal ball has some cracks in it. The dollar store had them on

sale yesterday --go for it.

[From The Left]

35. So Pathetic!

[rodeodance]

38. you know it is true--the OP is speculation at its best.

[From The Left]

46. Come tell me this Wednesday morning

[Stephanie]

36. Plus she needs to have $5M left over to pay herself back.

It will be interesting to see how the Clinton foundation fundraising goes after this is over. With no expectation of a direct line to the WH I expect donors would begin to back off.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

42. More then $5M, I'd guess

I don't know what interest rate she gave her campaign organization. A reasonable rate, I'm sure.

[MzShellG]

45. My thinking is that....

The a lot of superdelegates will drop Hillary like a hot potato if see looses Texas. There will be a mass exodus from the Clinton camp to migrate over to Obama. That will eliminate her superdelegate lead and destroy her chances of ever gaining the nomination.

[From The Left]

52. SP Will See Hill as Bird Flu After Losing TX

She's so done

[Why Syzygy]

49. I don't think she will. I think she will be a wild eyed roller coaster until

she is pulled from the stage.

[K Gardner]

51. The party won't let her continue this immolation much longer. SDs are already moving and

most recognize that what she is doing is destructive and serves no purpose but for Hillary glorification and ego.