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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:19 AM
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Question during conference call: What crisis can Hillary point to that supports claim to 3AM call?
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 09:25 AM by kristopher
I hate Tucker Carlson, but I tend to leave MSNBC running in the background of my day. Last night, Tucker had on Jamie Rubin, a foreign policy expert that I respect.
He was on the show to explain the Clinton teams reaction when they were asked what foreign policy crisis Senator Clinton could point to that showed she was better qualified than Senator Obama to receive that 3AM call in her ad.

According to the description, there was "a silence that lasted long enough to knit a sweater" and no answer could be provided.

When asked if he could answer the question Rubin, Sen. Clinton's foreign policy advisor, cited Sen. Clinton's trip to China where she "threaded the needle". That must be important because he repeated several times that she had, indeed, "threaded the needle" of sticking a balance between supporting women's rights and not pissing off our very important trading partner China.

Asked if she had unilaterally made the decision to go, the reply "No, but she threaded the needle."

Was this a crisis?

"No, but she threaded the needle."

(I 'm doing this from memory, and I'm on dialup, so if someone could look at the show give a more accurate rendition, it would be great.)

On another thread we are being treated to the story of how Senator Clinton's mercenary ban (to be effective January 2009) is evidence of her taking action while Obama's refusal to support the ban means he is sitting on the fence regarding getting us out of Iraq.

Of course, Obama supporters claim that he being honest and thinking through the consequences of her proposal and finds that such a ban of the 180,000 private troops is, in practical terms, completely impossible to effect ahead of the orderly removal of our Uniformed soldiers.

He isn't saying he wants to keep them there, just that here bill is very poorly thought out.

Looking at the ad and her failure to prepare for the obvious question regarding her qualifications, am I the only one that sees extremely strong and current evidence of her lack of ability to foresee not only the unintended consequences of her actions, but even the most obvious consequences.

Am I the only one that concludes her votes for the IWR and to label segments of the Iranian Army as terrorists were not a fluke, but are instead typical of a total blindness to outcomes?

Here is the link to the video of Tucker's show last night. I believe it is the segment "Politics of Fear".

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063292/

The rest of the show is simply vile.

Thank you for your attention.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:22 AM
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1. It's a desperation ploy. She's trying to pull a rabbit out of her ass.
Whatever lie she thinks will fit with what her internals are showing is the LIE she will tell.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:26 AM
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2. link to audio:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:27 AM
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3. I think very highly of Jamie Rubin
But "threading the needle" is not the same as answering the 3 AM phone call. Not even close. Clinton was giving a speech, not responding to a national crisis.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:35 AM
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4. And what experience makes Obama ready at 3 am? Hillary is more decisive and has
lived in an atmosphere that's dealt with these situations while Obama was volunteering and going to Harvard.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:39 AM
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5. she's lived in an atmosphere that's dealt with these situations?
so has the White House butler. Should he run for president too?
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:47 AM
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6. I support Obama, and I think the ad was fair. But it does show
poor planing on her part not to be able to have an answer to the question it give rise to.

I love Obama's fast response to her ad. I am glad he can hit back fast and hard.

But I recognize that O also cannot point to such a moment of testing in a foreign policy crisis.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:58 AM
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7. Yes he can. He spoke out against IWR, on the record, and correctly predicted consequences
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:00 AM
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8. Hillary's ad is one of the most unconvincing EVER


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