Obama gets 'offensive' on outsourcing

[OhioChick]

2/27/2008 12:17:12 PM

Obama may be emerging more popular by the day in the US, but his anti-outsourcing comments are not endearing him to India.

He now says that while America cannot "shy away" from globalisation, it would have to take measures to ensure that jobs are not shipped overseas.

At a debate with rival Hillary Clinton in Ohio, the all-important state scheduled to hold primaries on the 4th of March, Obama said, "We have to stop providing tax breaks for companies that are shipping jobs overseas and give those tax breaks to companies that are investing here in the United States of America."

This is not the first time Obama has blamed India for stealing Americans jobs. Only last week, speaking at another rally in Ohio, Obama had said, "We're here because there are workers in Youngstown, Ohio, who've watched job after job after job disappear because of bad trade deals....They need us to end those tax breaks that go to companies that ship jobs overseas.


http://www.timesnow.tv/NewsDtls.aspx?NewsID=6183

Why isn't HRC getting "offensive on outsourcing?"

Also: I did not read anything in his speeches regarding "blaming India for stealing Americans jobs.....as India has accused him of.

Sounds like Indian wants "another" candidate."

[Kittycat]

1. Why isn't HRC getting "offensive on outsourcing?"

Because Hill is DLC.

[Xithras]

4. Yep. She's DLC. Bill was chairman for a while. The DLC supports open trade...even of jobs.

People really should look up the positions of the DLC. Hillary would lose a lot of support if they understood how very Republican most DLC beliefs are.

[Larkspur]

5. In March 2005 HIllary went to India and reassured them that she supported outsourcing

of good paying American jobs to their country. Search for Asia times article titled "Hillary Woos India" which was published in March 2005.

Tata was another pro-outsourcing Indian company that she celebrated.

[OhioChick]

11. ....

Mar 1, 2005
Hillary Clinton woos India


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html

Interstingly Enough....More recently:

Now Hillary too blasts outsourcing (WTF??)
February 22, 2008 11:55 IST

http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/feb/22bpo1.htm


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4725455

[Eurobabe]

2. HRC is too busy being offensive

That's why.

Her pillow comment was ridiculous. She's shot herself in the foot. No recovery.

[Justyce]

3. India isn't "stealing" our jobs... they're being handed our jobs.

I'm glad to hear Obama speaking out about this now -- this has been one of my reservations about him because he's said in the past that he believes in free trade and doesn't have the best voting record on it (none of the top candidates did, though). So, I'm glad to see it looks like he is recognizing the importance of the issue and what's at stake.

[GodlessBiker]

8. Yes! India is stealing nothing.

[JDPriestly]

13. It isn't just India. It's China, the Philippines, many countries.

All of our IT service is outsourced. It is just awful. I have to ask the service reps to repeat everything several times because I cannot understand what they apparently believe to be English.

Then there is the manufacturing sector. Jobs in manufacturing are just gone.

I recall hearing discussion in Congress in 1985 in which we were warned that if free trade agreements were entered into, Americans would end up with nothing to do but serve hamburger to each other. Well, the trade agreements were entered into and we are rapidly becoming a nation in which all we do is serve each other hamburgers. That will last until our export deficit results in our having to sell all our food to India and China. That seems an unlikely prospect until you think about the changes that have taken place in our job market since 1985.

[maximusveritas]

6. Yeah, looks more like he's blaming "companies that are shipping jobs overseas"

but some people takes any anti-outsourcing talk as an attack on India.

Hillary actually has started talking about outsourcing, but only now that they're campaigning in Ohio.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. So he won't win the Bengali primary

how many delegates will that cost him?

:hi:

[OhioChick]

9. .....

:rofl:

[snooper2]

19. Bengal

doesn't count

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

20. I know how they feel ...

I'm in Michigan.

:rofl:

[HughBeaumont]

10. Here's why:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

[OhioChick]

12. Thanks, Hugh

You've Saved Me Some Time. :)

[antigop]

37. EVERYBODY, WATCH THE VIDEOS THAT HUGH POSTED!

Posting again:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

[rinsd]

14. What is with your focus on India and outsourcing?

"Sounds like Indian wants "another" candidate.""

Nevermind....reading you loud and clear.

[OhioChick]

15. If My Job Gets Outsourced....

My Kids Don't Eat.

Understand Now?

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[Larkspur]

31. Same here, except I have no kids

but I will have a hard time buying pet food.

[antigop]

35. Evidently, HRC doesn't understand. n/t

[OhioChick]

21. If my job is lost

what do I do? Take some community classes like the decider suggested? No, I've put too much blood sweat and tears into getting a degree and paying it off.

Taken from a LBN article.

"From an Indian News Source.

Stop this hyper journalism.
by Ashish Agnihotri on Feb 22, 2008 11:08 PM | Hide replies

There is need to think before writing or write with proper analysis in mind. See at what time is Hilary changing the gears. This explains why she has made u-turn. Almost down to Obama she changed her campagin manager, she has changed her stands on few other important issues. She has no choice but try every trick in trade to see if she can reverse the vote against her in many primaries. This is last chance for her. So dont be surprised if you hear her say things that she never said before or said exactly opposite. Hold on...world is not falling for every sentence spoken by any Senator in USA. Remember Bush is still president ...have faith in ourselves...India can determine its own course after these many years...please."

http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/feb/22bpo1.htm

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[OhioChick]

24. Yes,

I'm terribly worried about my job. I focus on whatever country our corporations are sending jobs to......no matter what color they are. Don't play the race card. That's a damn shame.

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[OhioChick]

27. .....

India is the #1 Outsourcing destination for US Corporations. Google is Your Friend.

Stop with the "xenophobic & racist" comments. Your accusations on the issue are naive.

[rinsd]

28. "Your accusations on the issue are naive"

Why am I naive? Am I somehow unaware of the "true" India?

[OhioChick]

30. Do You Have Anything Useful

To Add to the Article Posted Above? If So, Please Do.

No Need to Hijack a Thread Just to Accuse Members of Being Racists, etc.

[rinsd]

32. Then stop applying different standard to India when it comes to discussing job outsourcing.

[OhioChick]

33. Once Again...

India is the #1 Outsourcing destination for US Corporations. Google is Your Friend.

Quote: Then stop applying different standard to India when it comes to discussing job outsourcing.

Don't Threaten.

[rinsd]

34. Threaten?

Naaah forget it.

[OhioChick]

44. ....

:rofl:

[ChromeFoundry]

48. I fail to see the "different" standard...

you are speaking of. This all looks very cut and dry to me. There are more IT jobs being sent overseas, by greedy US corporations, than all other country in the world. By penalizing corporations that outsource US jobs, India has the most to lose.

Why is everyone wasting their time replying to this clown? He obviously does not have any intellectual debate to offer here.

[LoZoccolo]

38. Give us a fucking break. n/t

[high density]

23. Maybe we can offshore your job to India

Then you'll wonder what to focus on yourself.

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[LoZoccolo]

36. Do you have any idea what it's like to work hard, go to college, do all the right things...

...and then a few years into your career start seeing people drop off for cheap labor?

Do you have any idea knowing that no matter how hard you work, it doesn't matter?

Put your foul-ass manipulative race card away, you have no idea, and don't fuck with anyone along these lines here again. :grr:

[rinsd]

39. "Do you have any idea knowing that no matter how hard you work, it doesn't matter?"

Sure do. I've had both good luck and bad luck with my career that had little to do with my work ethic.

"don't fuck with anyone along these lines here again"

Yeah god forbid you devote as much time to me as your hate nader threads that everyone oh so enjoyed :eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

40. You're outnumbered here, no one likes economic treason.

It won't matter if I start threads about you, you'll be getting your ass verbally beat down in every outsourcing thread you see fit to whine about. Go ahead and try to defend offshoring in front of this crowd, this will be funny. Bring your pathetic fake-ass race card along with you.

[rinsd]

41. Who's defending outsourcing?

I was taking the OP to task for casting the outsourcing issue as an India only thing and has been doing so for the better part of a year.

I love the threats though. Please belch forth a few more.

[LoZoccolo]

43. The race card is bullshit. n/t

[OhioChick]

45. Actually....

For the Better Part of 4 Years.

Try to Comprehend This:

India is the #1 Outsourcing destination for US Corporations. Google is Your Friend.


N. Chandrababu Naidu, chief minister of India's southern Andhra Pradesh state, a top outsourcing destination for US corporations, recently met a group of visiting US congressmen in Hyderabad and urged them to defeat anti-outsourcing regulations.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/23/1077384668937.html?from=storyrhs

[OhioChick]

46. He's Just Pissed

Because HRC was all for Outsourcing Before She Was Against It. No Argument Other Than to Use the Race Card.

HRC FOR Outsourcing:

Hillary Clinton woos India

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html

Then......

Now Hillary too blasts outsourcing

http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/feb/22bpo1.htm

[surfermaw]

18. You might credit the Reagan and Bush for India Outsourcing

You see reagan sold the country store to India to entice then to build big dams and other things in order to take the jobs to India, then the Bush administration was the first to try for NAFTA..then pushed it through under Clinton and bouth houses republican, Hillary Clinton and Obama are almot the same he just didn't have to handle both houses republican, and if we don't stop fighting , if Obama wins, and doesn't bring in democrats into both houses, he wan't be able to do any thing much and the same if Hillary wins and dosen't bring a dem, Congress and Senate.

[JVS]

29. India? How many delegates do they have?

[antigop]

42. EVERYBODY, WATCH THE VIDEOS THAT HUGH POSTED!

Posting again:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

[OhioChick]

47. Thanks, antigop!

:hi: