BILL CLINTON ENDORSED FARAKHAN MARCH

[redstate_democrat]

Bill Clinton Endorsed Farrakhan March

http://www.amsterdamnews.org/News/article/article.asp?NewsID=4125&sID=3

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/14/00510.shtml

In May, before Katrina sent Farrakhan into conspiracy overdrive, Clinton endorsed the Millions More March, telling New York City's Amsterdam News, "I think this is a very positive idea."

<snip>

Speaking from his Harlem office the top Democrat said: "I like the idea of a march. It's fine to be concerned about security but we also have to keep trying to make America strong and better here at home."

<snip>

"They were basically standing up for the dignity of family and asking African American men and fathers to be more responsible," Clinton told News. "It was totally non-violent and got a big participation and it also showed ... there’s all these people and they are advocating a responsible agenda and not just asking for something."

THIS WAS SUPPORT FOR THE MILLIONS "MORE" MARCH AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA. READ BEFORE YOU JUMP IN WITH "THAT WAS 12 YEARS AGO!" MEME.

Now, I would like for Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton to denounce and reject that. And for people who talk about black preachers being antisemetic and other, why is it that Bill or Hillary Clinton has never missed a chance to jump up in a black church's pulpit in their lives?

[eleny]

1. Uh-

oh.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

2. What the fuck?

:wtf:

[NDambi]

3. So did I and my family. Majority of the men in family attended..as did the woman for the Million

Women March in Philly...

There's good and bad in many things. I don't like Mr. F's comments about Jews, when he goes off on his evil rant..but in that instance it was a call for responsibiltiy and actually made some difference when many black men returned back to their communities.

[Jamastiene]

16. Bingo.

keywords in the OP, nonviolent and responsible...You are looking at it exactly the right way.

[woolldog]

4. wha?

:spray:

[JVS]

5. What a racist asshole!

[Trajan]

6. Newsmax ?

Here in DU ? ....

Go away .....

Here let me help you ....

[redstate_democrat]

7. But he said it, want me to post more articles from other news sources that

demonstrate Clinton's ambivalence to "denounce and reject" Farakhan? Here, let me do it..

[Name removed]

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[TexasObserver]

8. Hillary's Campaign: THE MILLION MEME MARCH.

[EFerrari]

9. LOL! Duzy!

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

11. Thank you! Be sure to tip your wait staff!

I'll be here all week.

Oh, wait. I've already been her all week.

[mkultra]

12. i think you stoll that line from me

comedy you can xerox!

[TexasObserver]

31. I stole it from every stand up act I've seen the past 30 years.

I xeroxed it!!

[mkultra]

37. lol

:rofl: :rofl:

[DearAbby]

38. Actually there was dust on it from being ...

hammered and chiseled in stone, when I stole it to be mimeographed..let me see your fingers for the purple ink marks.

[TexasObserver]

41. Remember the tablets Moses threw down when he saw the Golden Calf?

It was originally one of the Ten Commandments.

Moses had to strike it out, though, to make room for "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me."

[DearAbby]

45. Well Just how old do you think I am?

::looking for the cuneiform keys on the pad::

[TexasObserver]

48. OK, do you remember Dear, Lovable, Old, Aunt Blabby?! (on Johnny Carson)

Don't say TERMINAL to an old person!!

I loved Johnny!

[mkultra]

57. Do you remember when God spoke existence into being

These where the words he used.
He gave me permission to use them as he is my heavenly co-chair.

[TexasObserver]

59. No, that was before my time.

But I do remember seeing Adlai Stevenson on TV in 1952 and 1960, and watching the Democratic convention on TV in 1960 before I was a teenager.

[MzShellG]

13. If that is true....

How can you deny that trying to pin the Farrakhan comments on Barack is not just a sleazy subtle form of race baiting. A 'Oh lets make a public issue of this because he is black' sort of thing. I can't remember Bill's involvement in the march, but I'm just saying that if this proves to be correct then what utter hypocrisy.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. apologetically self-deleted for not reading the OP right.

[redstate_democrat]

15. sigh

If you had read the OP, I was referring to the Millions MORE March, which occurred shortly after Hurricane Katrina according to the article. Obviously, Farrakhan has never been seen as a legitimate religious figure by mainstream society. So, referring all the way back to the friggin Million Man March has nothing to do with this post. This praise was after 2005.

[Jamastiene]

18. So fucking what?

Marches are peaceful forms of protest that hurt no one. Why are you making such a big deal out of nothing?

[redstate_democrat]

20. I see you're missing the point

The hypocrisy. That is the issue. I really don't give a damn what Bill Clinton didn't and did do in regards to Farrakhan because I've never paid attention to the man myself. What I don't like is the HYPOCRISY that seems to go unchecked at times. Hillary Clinton basically TRIED to create a divisive issue, but opened herself up to criticism as well on this very subject. What's good for the goose..

That's why I give a fuck. She TRIED to suggest that Obama was TOLERANT of this man, in an underhanded way, but she herself has not been as hard on Farrakhan.

[redstate_democrat]

19. Additionally,

the comments seem to suggest that since Obama didn't "reject" and denounce, then somehow he wasn't strong enough on Farrakhan. This is highly hypocritical since Clinton hasn't rejected all things Farrakhan, including his marches. If Farrakhan is a hateful antisemtic, I just don't see why you would praise a march conceived, organized, and promoted by him

That's like him praising the KKK for organizing a march for young boys to create solidarity. What would he do in this situation?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

22. Right you are... my apologies!

[redstate_democrat]

17. Why did he not, in his praise,

repudiate Farrakhan and denounce and reject him categorically? He certainly could have. He has also not denounced and rejected Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, and has marched with them as well. What's the deal? I see the deal. It is okay for Clinton to ride the fence because he is white and couldn't possibly subscribe to these beliefs but because Obama is half black, there is a slight chance he might be a racist, so we must double check whether or not he has any affiliation with Farrakhan and the likes of him. It is very CLEAR to me that some of Hillary's supporters are taking this view.

[IsItJustMe]

49. You make a good point that I have never even considered. I thought it was strange as hell and over

the top; the way Tim Russert and HRC were jumping down Obama's back on this issue. I had one of those WTF moments. There was something going on there that, at that moment, I couldn't put a finger on it. It was very subtle for me.

Your point is well taken.

[Hutzpa]

21. The under hand has already started

I've always known Bill and Mr F have been close for a longf time,

I had a thread out on Sunday questioning Farrakhan's endorsement

of Obama, The Clinton's are determined to screw everything up for

the Democrats, if they can get it no one else should.

I still have my :tinfoilhat: on, the jury's still out.

[redstate_democrat]

24. I don't know about that

I don't think Farrakhan and the Clintons are in cahoots against Obama on this. I don't follow Farrakhan so I really don't know. But I do see the hypocrisy. All I had to do was a quick GOOGLE search and the article came up, followed by others which discussed Clinton's ambivalence towards Farrakhan. I HATE HYPOCRISY.

[MagsDem]

26. Do you support Obama?

Because there is a boat fucking load of hypocrisy going on there.

[redstate_democrat]

28. The only hypocrisy I

am aware of in THIS situation is Hillary's attempt to paint Obama as some sort of person who is tolerant or afraid to stand up against antisemetism, yet her own husband can't even denounce all things Farrakhan and he is a former president. She was mighty self righteous about that, but she forgot about "the Google" and the "Internets". I would have given her a POINT on that if she and her husband had been STRONG on their repudiation of all things Farrakhan, but they straddle the fence as well. HYPOCRISY.

Now, Obama perhaps should have been clearer in his repudiation of Farrakhan, but I at LEAST give him credit for saying he denounced Farrakhan and his beliefs and for later saying he rejected and denounced it. For Hillary to try to draw some distinction between reject and denounce given their failure to do so, is patently hypocritical and misleading.

[MagsDem]

29. Well I can clue you in

1. He says he supports LGBT people, but gives a bigoted homophobe a mic for 30 min on a national stage to denounce gay people.

2. He criticizes PACs, but has raised millions for his own, which he has used to sway super delegates with huge campaign donations.

3. He decries lobbyist money, but he has lobbyists bundle money for him from non-lobbyists.

That's just for starters.

[redstate_democrat]

32. STICK TO THE SUBJECT

We're talking about Farrakhan and black leaders. But I will indulge you in all of that. Hillary and Bill have visited many a Christian church which have uninformed views of the LGBT community. Should they denounce and reject these people each time they visit? I'm just asking because that would make for an interesting situation.

As for that other nonsense you're talking about, could you provide proof of this because I would be interested in learning this given the fact that it has been widely reported that he does not take PAC or lobbyist money and has raised 90% of his money from small donors.

[MagsDem]

34. Hillary and Bill didn't stand next to a bigoted homophobe

and hand him a microphone for 30 minutes as he denounced gay people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/29/AR2007112902229.html


http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_lobbyist_line.php

Edited to add, that took all of 20 seconds to find online. Shouldn't be a secret to any Obama supporter.

[Bluerthanblue]

56. neither did Obama- he didn't stand next to Mcclurken- or hand him

the mike-

You really weaken your argument when you distort it.

peace~

[Hutzpa]

53. Ok! maybe Hypocrisy should be the order of the day then

my point is, they're making an issue out of this where there shouldn't be

then run to the media and point out Obama can't handle the Republicans.

Knowing fully The Republicans will pick this up and spin.

they make me :puke:

[MagsDem]

23. Oh for god's sake

You want them to denounce a civil rights march?

[redstate_democrat]

25. A civil rights march

led by an antisemetic? Are you kidding?

[MagsDem]

27. It's Clinton's fault that Jews and Blacks don't like each other?

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been accused of the same, and rightly so. Does that mean they can never have a civil rights march again? Or just that Clinton should denounce all civil rights marches, or what?

Here is what he said (and he's still not running):

“Jesse and Mr. Farrakhan and Rev. Sharpton probably have internal domestic political differences, but they’ve agreed on this and I think it’s a good thing,” said Clinton. “I like the idea of a march, but I think it would also be good at the march for them to say, ‘We want to call your attention to this problem and here’s something else you can do. And that it’s fine to be concerned about security, but we also have to keep trying to make America strong and better here at home. And we can’t neglect the quality of our jobs, the quality of our education, the quality of our environment.’”

Here's a list of the organizing supporters. Should he denounce all them, too? Your post is fucking moronic.

Arizona
Phoenix
NBUF / NOI
[phone]



Phoenix
Millions More Phoenix
[phone]

Arkansas
Little Rock
Little Rock L.O.C., 5213 W. 65th Street
Tuesday 7:30PM [phone]


Pine Bluff
AFRIKAN-AMERICANS FOR A BETTER PINE BLUFF
[phone]

CALIFORNIA
Richmond
North Richmond, CA., Local Organizing Committee
[phone]


Oakland
Oakland Local Organizing Comité
[phone]



Los Angeles
Bethel A.M.E. Church, 7900 S. Western Avenue
Tuesdays, 7pm [phone]



Pittsburg, Ca.
[phone] Tarik Saeed
[phone] Fax (925)
513-7577 Merthia L Thompson

COLORADO
Aurora
The Union LOC (U.N.I.O.N.)
[phone]

Denver
Colorado Millions More Movement
14949 E. Alameda Dr.
Wednesday, 7:00 PM [phone]
Connecticut
Bridgeport
Bridgeport Loc for MMM
[phone]

Hartford
MMM Hartford Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

West Haven
New Haven MMM LOC
[phone]
Delaware
Newark
The Camput Alliance de La Raza
Christiana Commons
Wednesday, 6:00 PM [phone]
FLORIDA
Fort Lauderdale
Meetings: Every Thursday at 7:30 p.m.
Location: 1021 Sistrunk Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309
Telephone: [phone] or [phone]
Jacksonville
L.O.C. Public Relations
916 N. Myrtle Ave.
[phone]

Jacksonville
Climb Up-Climb Out, Inc.
[phone]

Miami
N.O.I. Trucking Industry
5600 NW 7th Street
Wed & Sun, 6P & 2P [phone]

Ocala
The Ocala Study Group
St Paul AME Methodist Church
Wednesday, 6:00 PM [phone]

Orlando
Central Florida Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

GEORGIA
Albany
Albany LOC
[phone]

Athens
Athens Georgia LOC
[phone]


Atlanta
Meets every Tuesday at 6:30 p.m.
First Iconium Baptist Church
542 Moreland Avenue, Atlanta, Ga. 30316
Phone: [phone]



Hephzibah
Augusta Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

ILLINOIS
Champaign
Champaign/Urbana LOC
[phone]


Chicago
Chicago Youth Group
[phone]

Chicago
Community Justice For Youth Institute
[phone]

Chicago
The Actual Facts Research & Survival Center
[phone]


Chicago
Park Manor Christian Church, 600 East 73rd Street
Meets Thursday, 7pm [phone]



Chicago
Fernwood United Methodist Church, 10057 South Wallace
Mondays, 6pm [phone]



Dekalb
DeKalb / Rockford Study Group
[phone]

Rock Island
Millions More Movement Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Rockford
Rockford / DeKalb Study Group
[phone]

INDIANA
Indianapolis
MMM-LOC Indianapolis, IN
777 Indiana Ave & 2248 E. 38th
Thursday, 6:00 PM [phone]

Kansas
Kansas City
IBSA KCK
[phone]
Kentucky
Louisville
Louisville Kentucky Study Group
[phone]
Louisiana
Baton Rouge
L.O.C. Committee Baton Rouge, LA
MLK Center/ 4142 Gus Young
Thursday, 7:00PM [phone]
Massachussets
Boston
Boston LOC
2730 Washington St. (Roxbury)
Wednesday, 6:30 PM [phone]



Springfield
Sister United
59 Blake Street
[phone]

Maryland
Baltimore
Millions More Movement Baltimore
[phone]

Clinton
My Own Biz Hired Me LOC
7191 Old Alexandrai Ferry Rd
Wednesday, 6:00 PM
[phone]

Waldorf
Black Intelligence Hip Hop Coalition
[phone]
Michigan
Detroit
De Brik Haus Business Network LOC
8300 E. Jefferson, Suite 507
Wednesday, 2:00 PM [phone]

Detroit
Million Man Alumni Association
[phone]

Farmington Hill
Families United LOC
30105 West 10 Mile
Sunday, 11:00 AM [phone]

Saginaw
Millions More Movement LOC, Saginaw
Thursday, 5:30 PM [phone]

Flint
Millions More Movement LOC Flint
3610 N. Saginaw
Saturday, 5:00 PM [phone]

Highland Park
Progressive Artist for the MMM
Meetery Eatery/44 Colorado
Friday, 6:00 PM [phone]
Missouri
Kansas City
Greater Kansas City LOC
1231 Garfield
Thursday, 7:00 PM [phone]

St. Louis
Millions More Movement St. Louis
1408 N. Kingshighway, Rm 215
Tuesday, 7:30 PM
[phone]


Millions More Movement St. Louis
1408 N. Kingshighway, Room 215
St. Louis, MO 63113
314-361-9191 phone / 314-361-4949 fax
[e-mail] / www.mmmstlouis.org

Mississippi
Port Gibson
[phone]
North Carolina
Charlotte
Millions More Movement TM-Charlotte
[phone]

Durham
Durham LOC
[phone]

Greensboro
Greensboro, North Carolina L.O.C.
St. Philip AME Zion Church
Monday, 5:00 PM [phone]

Greenville
Eastern North Carolina LOC
[phone]

Hickory
Hickory NC Metro LOC
[phone]

Highpoint
High Point LOC
916 E. Green Dr.
Tuesday, 6:00 PM [phone]

Oxford
Granville County LOCAL ORGANIZING COMMITTEE
[phone]

Wilson
Wilson County Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Winston Salem
Vanguard Educational Services
336.986.8128

Winston-Salem
Winston-Salem State University
[phone]
NEW JERSEY
Asbury Park
Jersey Shore Local Organizing Committee
614 Ridge Ave.
Thursday, 7:30 PM [phone]

Atlantic City
Atlantic City LOC for Million More March
203 N. South Carolina Ave.
Thursday, 7:00 PM [phone]

Atlantic Highlands
Shamorah Temple
61 Powel Street
Mon-Fri, 6:00 PM [phone]

Carteret
Local Organizing Committee of Carteret
[phone]

New Brunswick
New Brunswick LOC
610 Hamilton Street
Sunday, 10:00 AM [phone]

Patterson
Passaic County LOC
122 Belmont Ave.
Thursday, 7:00 PM [phone]

Trenton
Community At-One (ATONE) Together
Trenton Public Library
Wednesday, 6:30 PM [phone]


LOC of Carteret
Meets on Thursdays at 7.00 P.M. (weekly)
AME People's Church located at 77 Union St., Carteret NJ 07008
Residing Pastor, Pastor Amos Dickerson
Phone: [phone]

NEW YORK
Albany
Capital District LOC
47 Lark St.
Tues & Thurs, 7:00 PM [phone]

Bronxs
South Bronx LOC
576 E. 165th Street
Thursday, 7:00 PM [phone] #30

Brooklyn
Brooklyn Local Organization Committee
966 Fulton Street
Saturday, 4:00 PM [phone]

Buffalo
Buffalo Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Harlem
Campaign to end the Death Penalty-City College Chapter
[phone]

Jamaica
Million Man/Woman March Coord Councl of Queens Inc
IS8 108-35 167th Street
Tuesday, 7:00 PM [phone]

Rochester
L.O.C. of Rochester, New York
[phone]

Rochester
University of Rochester Black Students' Union
[phone]

Syracuse
Local Organizing Committee of Central New York
United Unity Church
Thursday, 6:00 PM [phone]

Uniondale
Millions More Movement Nassau County LOC
[phone]

Yonkers
Yonkers LOC
[phone]


New York
Riverside Church, 490 Riverside Drive
Tuesdays, 6pm [phone]

NORTH CAROLINA
Greensboro
Meets on Mondays at 6:00 pm
St. Phillip AME Zion Church, 1330 Ashe St.
[phone] / email: [e-mail]
Ohio
Canton
CANTON LOC OR C-LOC
[phone]

Cincinnati
Cincinnati Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Cincinnati
Southwest Youth Counsel of the NAACP
810 Mathew Dr.
[phone]

Cleveland
Cleveland Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Columbus
Columbus Ohio LOC
[phone]

Columbus
Columbus Ohio LOC
[phone]
PENNSYLVANIA
Philadelphia Regional Organizing Committee
2221 N. Broad St. (near Dauphin)
Suite 250, 2nd Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19132
Phone-215-763-2889 / Phone-215-763-2887
Fax-215-763-6460 / Email: [e-mail]



Chester
222 Penn Street, Chester Pa. 19013

Tuesday, 7:30 PM [phone]
Phone: [phone]



Johnstown
The Uphill Road
728 Franklin Street
Wed & Fri, 7:00 PM [phone]

Philadelphia
Philadelphia Local Organizing Committee
[phone]

Philadelphia
Umar Abdullah- Johnson Min. of education U.N.I.A.
[phone]

Pittsburgh
The Millions More Movement L.O.C. of SW PA
1001 South Avenue
Tuesday, 7:00 PM [phone]

SOUTH CAROLINA
Columbia
South Carolina State Local Organizing Committee
1115 Calhoun Street
Monday, 7:00 PM [phone]


Greenville
Greenville, SC LOC
[phone]


Greenville
LOC meeting times: Every Saturday @ 2:00 P.M
1005 Buncombe Street
Greenville, South Carolina 29601
[phone]



North Charleston
LOC - Charleston, SC
Cobra Building
Tuesday, 6:30 PM [phone]

Tennessee
Nashville
Nashville LOC
1015 Buchanan Street
Saturday, 9:00 AM [phone]


West Columbia
LOC meetings: Monday nights at 7:00 pm
Brookland Baptist Church, 1066 Sunset Boulevard
West Columbia, South Carolina 29169
Church [phone] / Mosque [phone]

Texas
Austin
Central Texas Organizing Committee
2209 Rosewood
Tuesday, 6:30 PM [phone]

Dallas
Dallas Local Organizing Committee – MMM
1816 Routh Street
Thursday, 7:00 PM [phone]
Houston
Muhammad's Mosque No. 45, 4443 Old Spanish Trail
Tuesdays, 7:30pm [phone]

TENNESSEE
Knoxville

Meetings 7:00pm - 9:00pm

YMCA Wilson AV

616 Jessamine ST. Knoxville 37917

Contact Numbers:

Larry Nevels [phone]

Carlos Penn [phone]

United Kingdom
London
LIFT LOC
44-208-761-7634
Virginia
Diversity Poet Educators
5372 Catina Arch
Tuesday, 7:00 PM [phone]
WASHINGTON, D.C.
ANC 8-A 2100-D MLK Ave, SE
Tuesdays, 7:30pm [phone]

Bellevue Center, 4415 South Capitol St. SW
Tuesdays, 7:30pm [phone]

Wisconsin
Milwaukee
Urban Development, Inc.
[phone]

[redstate_democrat]

30. My post is moronic?

Was it not Hillary who tried to draw a distinction between "reject" and "denounce" when she and her husband has failed to do just that when discussing a march organized by the very man they were discussing tonight? What do these other groups have to do with a thing? The fact is, the Clintons have associated themselves with individuals, who, coincidentally, would be viewed a negative for Obama to be associated with. Take for instance, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. I think the standard is different. They want him to denounce and reject these people, yet the Clintons march in the same march lines with them. I believe Obama marched in that march too down in Alabama. Hillary was on the front line.

[MagsDem]

33. Yes, your post is moronic

You don't denouce a positive movement of a million people simply because you don't care for 3 of them. That would also be moronic, as well as wholly pointless and unnecessary.

And you need to watch the debate again. Obama drew the distinction. He said, no, he didn't reject the support -- he apparently felt powerless to do so until Hillary gave him a shot of courage.

[redstate_democrat]

35. Whatever

You simply can't come to terms with what I am saying. Now, look, what Obama said could have been said BETTER. But at LEAST he did say he rejected and denounced Farrakhan. But I am discussing the HYPOCRISY of Hillary trying to insinuate that Obama is being "soft" on Farrakhan when she and her own husband haven't had the courage to do so as well. That's it.

[MagsDem]

36. Because it's moronic

[redstate_democrat]

40. You're obviously biased then.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in THAT, then your entire argument is "moronic". You're just trying to fan the flames, hoping that Obama is painted as some kind of antisemitic person, WHICH HE IS NOT. Why not hold your own candidate to these standards of using "reject" and whatever other synonym could be used in place of "denounce". I think in this case, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

[MagsDem]

42. Oh stop with the bullshit

I abhor Obama for good reasons -- his hypocrisy. But I have never thought he was anti-semetic. It never even occured to me that he was. Take your bullshit assumptions and whine to someone that cares.

[redstate_democrat]

44. Whine?

Now that's laughable. That's all you Hillary supporters do is whine. Now you're trying to make a big deal of the fact that Obama didn't immediately "reject" and "denounce" Farrakhan. If you know the man is not antisemitic, then why go on with this baseless attack? By attacking him on this, the implication is that he is somehow tolerant of antisemitism. Don't try to deny it. The underlying message or dog whistle is that Obama is not good for the Jewish community. THAT is what this is about. No one buys any other story Hillary or her supporters will try to make of it. I would like for Hillary to say "sorry" and "my vote was wrong", but she refuses to do so. She obviously hinted at regret for the IWR tonight, but failed to say "sorry" and "wrong".

[redstate_democrat]

39. Could he have denounced those three

who organized the march? I have yet to be proved wrong here. Has Bill and Hillary Clinton used the words "denounce" or "reject" in regards to Farrakhan? Now, taking that one step further, has Bill or Hillary Clinton gone and stood before a black church and denounce antisemitism like Obama did at Ebenezer Baptist Church? When you find me proof of that, then you might be on to something. But I'm quite positive you wont find such proof.

[Occam Bandage]

50. We'd prefer "reject." Y'all threw "denounce" on the Doesn't Count pile last night.

[mkultra]

43. ohhhhhh!

snap

[donheld]

46. Great find

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Scurrilous]

47. K & R

:thumbsup:

[shaniqua6392]

51. BILL CLINTON is NOT running for president!!!

Newsflash........Could you all please come up with something else to smear her? You are scraping the bottom of the barrel and it shows. A march for victims of Hurricane Katrina? That is the best you can come up with?

[SeaLyons]

52. Big Difference

in speaking at black churches, and being a member of a church that supports black separatism and whose pastor endorses Farrakhan. I'm not saying Obama is a racist, but I frankly do question how you could assoociate yourself with such an organization if you did not relate to their doctrine. I find it very concerning, and I don't understand why it hasn't been talked about more. It's a pretty serious free pass to give to Obama.

[Bluerthanblue]

55. Black Separatism or Black Pride? are you sure you used

the right word?

peace~

[bigtree]

54. I attended and it was one of the most enlightening and emotional rallies I've ever attended

You know NOTHING about what it meant to those who attended. That's why you think pointing out that Clinton approved of the rally is some big deal. That's a typical reaction of folks who are outside of our party and ignorant of our agenda.

[bridgit]

58. The Clintons are diversified in thought & deed you can walk through them like the produce dept...

of your grocery store and pick & choose what point you'd care to make on any given day, this OP is the proof of that. Bill & Hillary Clinton are tactile, highly textural, 3-D thinkers. I know that Obama has been taking notes. While I have my doubts as to whether he is able; I 'hope' he turns out likewise, as diversified of thought & deed as have been the Clintons :thumbsup:

[fujiyama]

60. I love the little comic strip

It describes the campaign perfectly.

[Scurrilous]

61. Clinton’s big Pa. backer reached out to Farrakhan

<snip>

"During Tuesday’s debate in Ohio Hillary Clinton argued that Barack Obama had not gone far enough in speaking out against Louis Farrakhan. After the debate her pollster, Mark Penn, was in the spin room arguing that Obama may have rejected and denounced Farrakhan, but he failed to criticize his pastor’s praise of the Nation of Islam leader.

Well, if this race makes it to Pennsylvania, it will be interesting to find out what Clinton has to say on the issue of Farrakhan to her most important backer in the state, Governor Ed Rendell.

Then the mayor of Philadelphia, Rendell not only made a controversial decision to share the stage with Farrakhan in an effort to diffuse racial tensions in the city, but then praised the NOI for its emphasis on family values and self-sufficiency (this, after ripping what he described as "so-called Jewish leaders"for criticizing the decision to give Farrakhan a platform).

Along similar lines, undoubtedly Jewish Republicans are taking notes on how to take aim at Obama over the Farrakhan question. They may want to check their back files — they’ll find this 2000 ad attacking Joe Lieberman (now McCain’s most prominent Jewish supporter) for saying he’d meet with Farrakhan."

http://elections.jta.org/2008/02/27/clintons-big-pa-backer-shared-the-stage-with-farrakhan/