Obama won, no question- Most voters on MSNBC agree (65%-22%)

[adoraz]

This is the very first debate where I strongly feel Barack Obama won. He answered everything very, very smoothly and had some great moments. Clinton had some moments, but overall she had some very low moments that I felt hurt her. Some of these:
-Not pronouncing name correctly
-That ridiculous comment about going first in the beginning
-Obama's response to her on rejecting

Just some silly things that should of been avoided, and there were many more.

Those are the moments people will remember though.

I felt Obama did an EXCELLENT job, and Hillary didn't do nearly as well as she needed to.

BTW, MSNBC voters agree, check this out:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23354735/

I definitely think this debate helped Obama. He was very calm, cool, likeable, and looked extremely intelligent.

Sorry Clinton supporters, but I think this is the end of the line for Hillary. She needed to win, but most say she lost.

Hillary just came off as desperate to me too often, and Obama never looked that way.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to disagree.

[Oleladylib]

1. MSNBC..gives the edge to Hillary ..so there ya have it!

[adoraz]

2. really? well I turned it off already lol

when did they say that?

[KAZ]

17. Hi liar, my name is KAZ.

[Pirate Smile]

19. Who said that? I didn't hear anyone say anything close to that.

[City Lights]

21. You're full of it.

But you knew that already.

[babylonsister]

24. Lie much? They did not; I'm listening. nt

[Az_lefty]

3. the corporate dream team may want it that way but this poll is totally different

[madaboutharry]

4. The one thing that is clear is that he is

a very deep thinker and doesn't let himself get rattled. He takes the time to formulate his answer to things and defuse issues. He gave an excellent answer to the reject/renounce crap. He also has shown that he doesn't have to always have the last word, which I think is an important quality.

[Maddy McCall]

5. Online polls are about as meaningful as online petitions.

[adoraz]

11. eh I have to disagree

they don't mean much, unless if there is such a gigantic gap like these 2. I remember California debate had them basically tied, so I don't think there is much bias from the Internet.

It it was a 10% difference or something I would agree with you.

[TexasObserver]

6. 3-1 Obama, according to those voting for either.

[sandnsea]

7. Agree with you completely

I don't know what she was thinking. Way too many bizarre moments. Obama was cool and clear throughout. He definitely won.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. Bizarre? Like what? *missed the debate*

[blonndee]

26. Like starting by whining about being asked the first question, then citing SNL

and suggesting that the moderators would offer Barack another pillow. That was really strange.

Then nitpicking Barack's "denouncing" of Farrakhan, saying SHE would "reject" such verbal support. That one really made her look nasty and out of ammo.

[sandnsea]

31. And

Going on and on with health care to the point of being obnoxious. Saying he was going to bomb Pakistan when she knows that isn't true. It was just weird.

[blonndee]

38. Sorry I jumped in on the question, but you're right.

I really didn't mean to be obnoxious and answer for you. :)

And someone on MSNBC just mentioned how she said she didn't want to "deal in hypotheticals," and really stuck to that point, almost refusing to really answer the question.

[sandnsea]

41. I was adding on to your answer

because it was the point I was going to make. :)

There were just a lot of points in the debate that I remember thinking she was either not funny or combative or just plain weird. And really, the point at the end about the world looking at us different with a woman president, well that's been a point with the Obama campaign, it seems to me.

[DemVet]

13. You're High

[OhioChick]

8. ......

* 16174 responses

Hillary Clinton won 22% Barack Obama won 64%


Neither won.
13%

[adoraz]

16. yep there you have it

nearly 3:1 ratio.

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. They gave Obama so much more uninterrupted time. I think

Clinton was interrupted every question--and they allowed Obama to go on ad nausem

[blonndee]

27. What about her filibusters on health care that went on for years? nt

[JimGinPA]

12. Obama Won This Debate & The Last

:applause:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

49. When Obama is not saying "I agree with Senator Clinton"he's rehashing her ideas &making them his own

[TheDonkey]

14. Do you need a pillow???

[thevoiceofreason]

15. 64-23 at 9:56

Barack kicked her butt.

And who the hell is this corn-toothed shill for Hillary on MSNBC now?

[TheDoorbellRang]

18. Hmmm. Interesting poll Q&A there at the link

Who won the debate? * 16174 responses

Hillary Clinton won. 22%
Barack Obama won. 64%
Neither won. 13%


Did the debate help you decide who to vote for? * 15796 responses

Yes, my mind's made up. 51%
No, I still can't decide. 4.1%
It made me lean toward Hillary Clinton. 11%
It made me lean toward Barack Obama. 31%
It made me want to look elsewhere. 2.7%


Will Ralph Nader's entrance into the presidential race hurt the Democrats? * 15752 responses

Yes, once again Nader could siphon off just enough votes to hurt the Democrats. 20%
No, Nader doesn't have the sway he once had. 80%


Will Obama and Clinton combine forces to create a "Dream Team"? *15918 responses

Yes, Obama-Clinton. 10%
Yes, Clinton-Obama. 10%
No, there's no way either of them would bow to accept the other as running mate. 80%

[RunningFromCongress]

20. She could have owned the debate w/ the Russia question...

This really could have been Hillary's chance to show Obama didn't know enough about the world and she wasn't prepared. She'll be kicking herself for that in 10 minutes.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

37. you mean when she couldn't remember the Russian's name?

[woolldog]

42. I honestly don't think that's a big deal.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. rather embarassing

like our present POTUS who hasn't a clue who all these foreign people are. Only for her husband she wouldn't have been visiting the countries.

[adoraz]

22. I think it was a huge win

notice how last time there were many Hillary supporters saying she won the Texas debate? we're not even seeing that now.

If that MSNBC poll is anywhere near accurate, it is huge, huge trouble for HRC.

I wonder how much of the Ohio voters watched this.

[tandem5]

29. actually as a Clinton supporter I'm too dumbfounded by the way the debate was conducted...

to look at in terms of Obama vs Clinton... it was Clinton vs the media and the voters lost.

[JeanGrey]

23. Well the pillow remark started the debate badly for Hillary.

It wasn't funny and well, it just didn't help.

[Stand and Fight]

25. NOT A SCIENTIFIC POLL! n/t

[adoraz]

28. no duh, whats your point?

[adoraz]

30. just wanted to add that so far close to 35,000 people have responded to the poll

so it certainly means something, especially since the results are staying the same.

[CaptJasHook]

32. Losers? Russert and my MSNBC internet connection.

Winners? Louis Farakhan, Rachel Maddow and Premier-elect Medyedev.

[jackson_dem]

33. Obama, like Ron Paul, always wins these online votes

In the real world the popular vote thus far stands at 50-46 with 1% of the gap being erased if Florida is included.

[scheming daemons]

34. So you admit that Obama has beaten her in the real world too? Great... thanks...

...

[adoraz]

39. not true

as I said, I remember for CNN's california poll they were dead even. For this, there is a GIGANTIC gap. A 3:1 gap.

40,000 people have responded anyways and the results aren't changing, I don't see how you can downplay this.

Am I saying it is 100% accurate for the rest of the public? No. But it certainly means something.

If it was a 10% difference or something I wouldn't have even brought it up, but 3:1....

[cali]

50. In the real world, he's blown her out ot the water in 11 straight

races. period.

[Breeze54]

35. Why did he vote Yea on the Oman Free Trade Act?

:shrug:

[Mojambo]

36. I thought it was as close to a draw as we've seen so far.

Given that Senator Clinton is the one that had to make up ground, I think she lost tonight.

[adoraz]

40. I think on many issues it was a draw BUT

when it came to how they acted, I think Obama was far, far more likeable, looked more intelligent, didn't mess up significantly, etc. that will make the difference.

[TexasObserver]

44. She made obvious and early GAFFES, and he didn't make any. She lost.

[TexasObserver]

45. Obama is the consensus winner, Hillary the consensus loser.

[BenDavid]

46. damn, that's kinda like those polls over at Kos that never shows

hrc winning. Kinda like the polls here on du that never show hrc winning.....duh! do ya think maybe you obama folks enjoy posting a poll so that all of you can vote and say see there...there is proof that obama even in the DU is the favorite.....wow..

[adoraz]

47. whatever, this is the official MSNBC site with 66,000 responses

and its nearly a 3:1 ratio. If you don't think this means something, you're ignorant.

It clearly is a good sign for Obama and a bad one for Hillary. This wasn't some small poll on an unknown website with a 10% difference.


You guys can say whatever you want about the poll, but completely discrediting it seems pretty ignorant to me.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

48. Clinton's campaign message of her being experienced and Obama not having experience is only........

helping the obama campaign

because Obama's own message is that he doesn't have any experience

[TexasObserver]

51. * 80104 responses, and still 65% to 22% Obama win