Hillary must tear into Obama at the debate

[quinnox]

If HIllary plays nice again then I consider her to have accepted defeat. Hillary is on the brink and must do something special, remember the debate a few weeks ago that was a scorcher and they were attacking each other left and right? Hillary must go into that mode to have any chance at all.

Hillary, show me you can talk tough not only in press conferences but straight to Obama's face on national tv!

Take him down and use the strongest language possible. Say he is so inexperinced and that he is not fit to be president, that he can give pretty speeches but has a hollowness inside.

Otherwise, I think Hillary has given up most likely if she doesn't attack hard.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Good. Only reinforce Obama's message more clearly.

[marshall]

23. Embrace the Tina Fey strategy

It's her only hope.

[KittyWampus]

41. Tina Fey strategy? You mean come off as a mediocre comedian?

[marshall]

56. Bitch is the New Black

Tina came up with the new campaign slogan on SNL.

[TahitiNut]

55. Playing along with the stereotype of "The Taming of The Shrew" would be a mistake.

I gotta hand it to her, though ... she has learned how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. :shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Bring it on.

[HeraldSquare212]

3. I don't think she will, it works best when he can't talk back.

that's not a jab at Hillary - just true with any two candidates.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Hope you like blowback

The mean strategy is hardly ever a winner

[loveangelc]

5. As an Obama supporter I hope she does.

[polichick]

8. Me too :)

[NEDem]

39. Me too

[Kahuna]

58. Me three. nt

[JimGinPA]

6. He Just Needs To Be Presidential - Again

Her time is about over.

[Kaleva]

57. Unlike Sen. Clinton

who needs to land a knockout blow which is highly unlikely to happen tonight.

[still_one]

7. Bull. I am an Obama supporter, but "tearing into Obama at the debate" won't cut it

What will cut it is if she differentiates herself strongly from Obama, issue by issue

My view is if either candidate is too personal against their opponent, it will hurt them

[RememberWellstone]

9. No.

She must get back on her message...forget about him, ignore him if she must. Show that he is an empty suit...ignore the obvious. If she raises her voice or anything else it will look like desperation. Be calm, smooth and smile like a Mofo..seriously, Obama is an empty to suit tomost who listen. The lemmings and Obami kids are the only ones clammering for him.

[democrattotheend]

30. So Lemmings and kids are the majority of primary voters?

And why do you Clinton supporters seem to think you are intellectually superior to the majority of primary voters? As if you can see something that other people are just blind to. It's kind of insulting.

[RememberWellstone]

45. Just judging from the crowds

that are fainting and cheering for Obama...most are young and excited, but seem to get offended at every turn when asked a substantive question. Lemming mentality IMO. Kids because the outpolls show the youth voting for Obama.

[Recursion]

60. Oh, right, excitement is a sign of stupidity

You guys are really something else

[Whisp]

10. she should wave her shoe at him.

That'll sew it up for her.

[hogwyld]

11. She should spank him with a wooden spoon

and wash his mouth out with soap.

[katty]

12. will they sit as close as before? why? they should both

have some space.

[mudesi]

Because that's been working for her so far

:eyes:

[City Lights]

13. Yes, raise her negatives.

That's sure to work. :thumbsup:

[rateyes]

14. Maybe she'll send him to bed without supper.

:shrug:

[THUNDER HANDS]

15. because it's worked so well so far

[Indenturedebtor]

16. That has worked so well for her in the past

She should do it again :evil:

No but seriously maybe some crying? That seems to be the bump that pays this cycle. Viciousness hasn't been flying so well for her. But :shrug:

[Debi]

17. Yeah, that'll teach him to run for President - Shame on you Barack Obama n/t

[Alexander]

18. So she can get booed again? That would be the best gift ever to Obama.

Unless Obama's caught with a dead girl or a live boy, it's pretty much over.

[cali]

19. lol! you hillie heathers are as politically tone deaf as she is. gotta love it.

I'm hoping for the same thing. She attacks and he bests her every single time. The debate in SC that I believe you're referring to was an unmitigated disaster. I'd love it if she repeated that. Voters don't like hilly when she goes negative. Go negative, hilly, go!

[Raine]

20. I certainly hope so

cause that will finish her off and give Obama the nomination for sure. :thumbsup: :bounce: :-)

Go Hillary ... :rofl:

[Tropics_Dude83]

21. In other words, create John Mccain's perfect blockbuster devasting ad for the fall campaign. cool!

[whatchamacallit]

22. If he's smart, and I believe he is, he will maintain his composure

and let her buzz around him like an angry hornet.

[Binka]

32. He Should Eat A Bowl Of Cereal And When it's His Turn Stop Chewing And Say Uh-Huh

Then go back to eating. He doesn't need to say a DAYUM thing to Hillary!

[whatchamacallit]

40. Yep, give her all the rope she needs n/t

[cloudbase]

24. Hillary has to win big,

but I don't see her coming up with a grand slam. Barack only has to avoid screwing up.

[backscatter712]

25. Allow Mark Penn to present Clinton with her usual debating weapon...

[Alexander]

44. ROFL - is that thing real?

Maybe someone can Photoshop it to say "Official Symbol of the Hillary Clinton 2008 Presidential campaign".

:rofl:

[backscatter712]

54. I dunno - either it's a photoshop or a display piece.

Certainly worth a few laughs.

[Freida5]

26. Agree

[Bullet1987]

27. She got booed last week for doing that for a reason...but hey

I'd enjoy watching her campaign implode live on national TV. I don't think she has it in her though. It's easy to talk down to someone when they're miles away...but she's all smiles when she's right next to him.

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. "Do something special"?

I'm sorry, but "tear into", "attacking", "talking tough", and "take him down" aren't synonomous with "doing something special" in my book.

[Quixote1818]

29. Do you think she should look at him and say: "SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA!"

That would be a classic that would make the Dean scream disappear off the radar screen.

[RememberWellstone]

31. Absolutely not!

Needs to ignore the wax figure and get to her issues...her issues, what she wanst to talk about.

[AtomicKitten]

33. Sure, if you find a cacophony of booing edifying.

[Tresalisa]

34. Or maybe she should extend her remarks from the last debate

about what an honor it was to be sitting next to Obama and debating him. Then she could state, without attacking, why she feels she's the better candidate, and keep hammering at that through the whole debate.

I just don't think a full-on attack strategy will work for her. IMO it turns off many voters.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. These Are My Quick Thoughts On Tonight:

Hillary has to attack, but tactfully. Though tactfully, they must be strong. She must do everything she can to show WHY she's better than he is, while cutting him down to size and not looking bratty or bitter in the process. It's the only shot she has.

Now I like this approach for two reasons as it relates to my thoughts of the primaries:

1. If she does it and does it well, but Obama holds his ground and proves he can hang in there with the best of them, he would've solidly proven himself to me and shown that when it counts, when it's REAL, that he's real too. That would be a huge bonus for me if he passes that test, since as it stands right now it's all but a certainty that he will be the nominee. I want him to be more tested prior to that occurring, and tonight is the perfect night for it.

2. If Obama FAILS that test, it's very important that we know that now. This works out for Hillary in several ways. The obvious would be that it would hopefully give her a bump in the polls and get her comfortably back in the race to some degree. But the second yet to be spoken reason, would be that if Obama falters and can't handle it, while she presents herself and strong and capable, the superdelegates will have a whole lot to think about before the convention. If she can expose him as truly not yet being ready to handle the big leagues, I think she has a shot of them doing what's best for the party and as a party, pushing for her nomination. This is a longshot, but if that sort of process was to occur, tonight would be the night that exposed it as potentially necessary.

So in the end, I'm quite looking forward to tonight. I think we're gonna see her give it her best shot, and we'll either see Obama shine which would be a GREAT thing, or we will see him falter which would still give us an opportunity to think long and hard about whether he in fact COULD handle the RW attack machine that he will face in the GE. It's a huge test for both of them, and I look quite forward to seeing how it unfolds.

My bet? My bet's on Obama. I think she's gonna look really good, but I think Obama will handle himself well, show how far he's come, and in the end of it prove himself to be quite the worthy opponent. If that occurs, then I will officially consider myself 100% in support of his nomination.

9 pm can't get here soon enough for me!

:bounce:

[mirrera]

36. Where has that worked?????? Oh I get it, you support Obama. Good one! n/t

[Yael]

37. I agree. The debate should end with her impression of Sissy Spacek at the close of Carrie

[OhioChick]

38. If HRC "tears" into Obama

That'll be it for her. People of the US are tired of that game. I think that's quite obvious, given Obama's momentum he's built up thus far.

[no name no slogan]

42. If she does, she's toast

going negative hasn't helped her before, and it's not helping her now. If she's smart, she'll stay above the fray and stick to her issues.

[maddiejoan]

43. Nope.

What she needs to do is IGNORE Obama and do what she does best.

Rattle off policy and her in depth knowledge of the issues like a machine gun.

And she needs to be smiling when she does it --she lights up the most when she is talking ISSUES.

She clearly has a love of that --and it is her most authentic.

What she needs to convey is what she is the best at conveying.

She truly cares about people and the problems that confront them at the most minute level.

That's Hillary at her best and brightest, and Obama doesn't have THAT. He cares yes -- Not in the same way. (or at least that doesn't capture on camera)

[Forkboy]

46. And seal her fate doing so. Good advice Rumsfeld.

[Ino]

47. I hope she does & I don't see how she can't

I hope she tears into him with everything she's got. If he handles it with his usual aplomb, it should put to rest any fears that he's "not tough enough." And she will look like a fool.

I don't see how she has any choice but to attack, not after her vitriol this weekend. I don't think she has the guts to be as aggressive or scornful to his face, but playing nicey-nice again is going to look soooo phoney this time around.

[Breeze54]

48. She should be in control and deliver her talking points firmly.

But it sounds like you want her to implode.

Nice try. :eyes:

[ChromeFoundry]

49. Any attack will be political suicide for her. n/t

[Thrill]

50. Still underestimating Obama.

Some of you will never learn. You just keep expecting her to destroy him in a debate. Keep underestimating him

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

51. If she goes hard negative, watch her #'s in Ohio and Texas drop 5 pts in 2 days...

[psychopomp]

52. I want her to pound the table

or rostrum or whatever and then get up, a la Novak, and say "I'm done here" or something like that.

I think that might actually work!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

53. Hillary will be very Presidential!

[Recursion]

59. As an Obama supporter, my most fervent hope is that she does

She loses and he wins every time she has tried that.