Today's Hillary: Empathy. "I got a little hot there the other day in Cincinnati...."

[jefferson_dem]

Today... empathy Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:28 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton
From NBC’s Ron Allen

LORAIN, Ohio -- Hillary Clinton is at a town hall here, listening to an elderly man vent about financial problems; he’s either losing or lost his house -- he was hard to understand because of an accent. It was a very odd moment, with Clinton standing just a few feet from him. It was a bit tense because he was so emotional. Clinton accepted an envelope from him and promised to help. She has two residents on stage with her who are facing foreclosures; they told their stories to the crowd.

The only jab at Obama: "Hope is not a plan...," in her opening her remarks.

Today, it was Hillary Clinton full of compassion and empathy for working people facing foreclosure, mountains of school loans, and taxes.

After anger, sarcasm, today it was empathy. At one point she said, "I got a little hot there the other day in Cincinnati...." and says she was really mad, because Obama was sending YOU false, misleading and discredited information.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/26/703052.aspx

[Hope And Change]

1. Oh well...

I`m just shaking my head.

[TwilightGardener]

2. It was so carefully staged and rehearsed, that "shame on you" bullshit. God, please make her

go away now. Please.

[rodeodance]

34. She is a strong woman--who will not take bull from BO. Got that now?

[TwilightGardener]

45. Sorry, I know bad acting when I see it. Trying to pretend it was genuine

outrage just makes her look even nuttier. She should just let it go.

[rodeodance]

49. oh for christ sake ---She was complementing BO-!! --yes she had and oops. Get real

[intaglio]

52. The point is that instead of puttin her own plans forward

she uses the pain of the questioners as an opportunity to criticise Obama rather than the financial stupidity that got them there

[Independent-Voter]

3. Taking money from folks in financial trouble. She's a pimp extraordinarre!

[tyne]

6. If you're going to call

a press conference, maybe a good idea would be to cool down and apply a little self-control.

No man would have been able to get away with that.

[cbayer]

16. Did you just call Hilary Clinton a pimp extraordinarre?

Why in the world did you do that?

[Lerkfish]

4. LOL! well, bizarre way to not attack

"she was really mad, because Obama was sending YOU false, misleading and discredited information."

if the only attack was the one at the beginning, I guess this is a love tap.

bizarre.

[qanda]

5. I really wish these politicians could understand the struggle people are facing

I cringe when it's time for the mail to come because I just wonder what new bill is going to be there. Just the basic neccessities are strangling us financially. I just wish the political games would stop and someone would really start caring about what's happening out here.

[Egnever]

7. She found her voice again?

on a side note I really hate it when they parade peoples stories of woe out. We get it trust us. This country is in a world of shit at the moment. No need to reinforce it. Address your solutions or ideas for the future to improve things and spare me the litany of whats wrong.

[bunnies]

8. roflmao.

the groundhog has seen its shadow.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. I think Hillary's big problem...

is that she's building her firewalls out of strawmen.

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. nicely put. nt

[samdogmom]

10. If the envelope contained info on how to solve the plea for help...Hillary better come through!

If she gave people false hope and fails them...God help her!

Let's see what she produces!

[City Lights]

11. But it was okey-dokey when she was sending out false, misleading

and discredited information about Obama. :crazy:

I don't recall Obama standing in front of a mic yelling, "SHAME ON YOU, HILLARY CLINTON," while waving campaign literature.

[Forkboy]

12. Hey, at least it's a step up, and may actually help her.

Lord know the negative stuff hasn't.

[rexy]

13. "I got a little hot there the other day in Cincinnati...."

I think that line contradicts Hillary supporters' claim that her actions have all been calm and controlled. I don't understand why she would admit that. Unless she wants to have a more human appeal, but I really don't think that works in her favor either.

[cbayer]

19. Most supporters recognized that she was angry.

And her acknowledging that she was angry is very human.

[rexy]

22. I don't think that really helps her out.

I understand being angry, especially if you feel lies are being spread about you at such a critical point, but it really just adds fuel to the fire with all those claims that she won't be able to handle herself. Just look at another reply in this thread "Sorry I bombed Iran, I just got a little hot in the collar because..."

[cbayer]

26. I objected to the bomb Iran statement as well.

And frankly, I do want a president who gets angry when there is reason to be angry. She didnn't lose control, she just expressed some outrage at what she felt was an injustice.

[milkyway]

37. Reason to be angry? You've got to be kidding. She would spend the entire general campaign and her

four-year presidency spouting steam out her ears if she blows her top at a typical campaign mailer. Hillary has done much worse in this campaign, including winning NH by a false and malicious mailer, and she knows it.

With her rant, she blew what little chance she had at the presidency. And Good Hillary reappearing today can't undo the damage.

[rexy]

41. Ehhh..

I don't know about that. I'm still undecided but do lean more towards Obama. I don't think having someone express anger and outrage like that over something that really is NOT that big (considering she's used similar tactics as well) is all that appealing to me.

Honestly, I think she shouldn't have said what she did at the end of the Texas debate about being honored to run with Obama only to do a 180 the next day. It ended up seeming too much like a tactic to get people to see the human side of her, which I admittedly did and ended up with a new found respect for her, only to be turned off by her actions the next day.

[Yael]

23. I thought it made her look moody and out of control

Don't go there with the sexism line either -- I am female.

[rexy]

I don't think it made her look out of control.

Her hand gestures looked COMPLETELY practiced. I think she let her anger get the best of her because she planned on saying that and using those hand motions, but I think she was far from out of control.

That quote was honestly just another thing that makes her seem like a big flip-flopper.

[Yael]

51. I didn't mean out of physical control.

It made her look like she couldn't control her emotions.

I tried to be nicer about it so that I wouldn't be launched on as a sexist. ;)

[still_one]

14. I am sure that would go over big the next day after she bombed Iran

something like, "Sorry about that, I got a little hot under the collar because Iran wasn't being honest"

[cbayer]

20. Bombed Iran?

Do you really think that is an appropriate analogy?

[still_one]

24. I was just being scarcastic. To be honest, most of the posts in the GD:Primary area

should not be taken seriously, including the one I just made

[cbayer]

29. I don't agree. I think they should be taken seriously.

And I think the bombing Iran statement is irresponsible.

But I accept that you meant it sarcastically. Real hard to tell though.

[still_one]

42. I think most of the comments in this area are irresponsible

The amount of hate and venom expelled here is extremely unhealthy

and yes, I have also made sarcastic comments about Barrack relating to his virgin birth

I am an Obama supporter, but I have no problem voting for Hillary in the general election if she gets the nomination

[cbayer]

46. I am with you.

Which is why I feel this compulsion to question some of the posters here.

BTW, I am a supporter of both candidates and am awed by the self-destructive implosion currently going on in the democratic party.

[sniffa]

17. Talk about mood swings

Are the focus groups saying she should be doing this?

[thereismore]

18. Somebody will attack you for being sexist. You know they'll want to. nt

[sniffa]

31. I'm sure Ignored will the first to do so

They can just Eat Your Peas.

[Kittycat]

27. *Psst* The focus groups are voting for Obama

;)

[AGirl]

21. oh dear, people have different emotions on different days..how weird

[rodeodance]

36. the posts are thread are sickening.

[Thrill]

25. Yet another Hillary? Damn can't she just be herself

for a change? All these multiple personalties are hard to keep up with

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

28. Just further signs that her campaign is in a death spiral

This lack of message control, not just from her but from her campaign representatives (see the Dana Milbank article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/25/AR2008022502501.html) are sure signs that she's flailing about, and just trying to survive until next Tuesday when she can (hopefully) drop out gracefully.

[peaches2003]

30. Here we go again

I can see the handwriting on the wall for the debate tonight. She will be acting the "I'm doing this all for you, Americans, not for myself". And be sincere with a tear in her eye. She has more nerve than any one human being I have ever seen.

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[milkyway]

33. I don't think most people are looking for a president with such wild mood swings.

If she can't take the strain of a very mild campaign, we don't need to find out how she would hold up under the pressures of the presidency.

[rodeodance]

35. another cut down Hillary thread-----look at all the crickets snarking in.

[From The Left]

38. WTF?

Another clueless Hillbot?

[rodeodance]

47. look at the responses. What do you see?

[hfojvt]

39. Lorain, Ashtabula, Ohio

I had a lot of distant relatives living there in the 1800s. I kinda envy the people in this campaign with their ability to see so much of America.

[Arkana]

43. That wasn't "a little hot", Hillary.

You went from "I'm honored to be on stage with you!" to "SHAME ON YOU!" in 48 hours. Explain that.

[meow mix]

48. her "flare up" registered on alien sensors 100 galaxies away..

they probally think some novas collided.

[From The Left]

54. Batshit Crazy in a Banana Suit

[MagsDem]

44. She's right, he is n/t

[COFoothills]

50. She's gone completely schizo...

...Obama people never know who they are running against anymore. Good Hillary or Bad Hillary?

[peaches2003]

53. We have a good friend who is bipolar

and Hillary's personality could pass for this woman's when she is off her meds. I'd hate to see these tirades at one of these international conferences of heads of state our Pres goes to.