Hillary Supporters, Do you Consider Obama Supporters to be Extremists?

[MadBadger]

I dont know how to really address this but my jaw hit the floor when I read a certain Hillary thread, where somebody, who I wont name, actually said Obama Supporters are extremists. Do you agree with this characterization?

I know there will be at least one.

PS, I didnt want to post in your thread because it said Hillary Supporters Only.


PPS: We cannot ever head the division on DU if there is such vile hatred on One side towards the other. While certain people on Hillary's side annoy the hell out of me, I would never characterize them in that language. In fact, the overwhelming majority of you I would imagine are good people who just have a difference in the candidate you support.

[rinsd]

1. I think both sides have their unwanted share of assholes.

And I think its the assholes how have tainted the forum in the last 2 months.

As a multi candidate dynamic we all sparred with one another but for the most part refrained from posting outright flamebait.

[MadBadger]

2. You know, when I think of extremist, I go from Pat Robertson on the low end, to Osama on the far end

I was just shocked and dissapointed to see a DUer say that. I dont think this view is widely shared and I hope to be validated.

[MrsT]

16. I totally agree! eom

[MADem]

24. The VOICE of REASON, straight out of the gate. This poll deserves an "other."

And a link.

And that "won't name" stuff is too coy for words. Why not come right out and say "WHO" said the EXTREMIST word, and where we can find it and judge the context for ourselves? Was the assertion that:

--All Obama supporters, regardless of age, gender or ethnic background, are RABID extremists?

--Some are extremists? Rabid or otherwise?

--A few annoying loudmouths are extremists?

A link to the original, complaining post might allow us to make up our own minds as to whether the context of the use of the word was out of line. Without context it is impossible to judge.

[tammywammy]

41. Exactly!

[bunnies]

3. I'm an extremist?

SWEET! Can I be radical as well? Please?

[DB1]

7. Maybe if we are lucky we will soon be called lefties, or wait, wait.....

LIBERALS!!! Too funny.

[bunnies]

9. Radical Liberal Extremists!

*Gasp* Hide the children! :rofl:

[MadBadger]

4. Well, I'm actually shocked.

[rodeodance]

39. oh goodie-----the OP is talking to himself

Original Message
Well, I'm actually shocked.
Posted by hnmnf

[11 Bravo]

5. You need a "some of them" option.

There are assholes on each side, but in the view of this Edwards supporter, a plurality of the mean-spirited, hateful bullshit threads have been originated by a few Obama supporters.

[MadBadger]

6. I think there is still a difference between being an ass hole, and calling the other side extremists

[Forkboy]

12. That's a fair response.

:toast:

Same goes for the other side. It's just a handful. I like a lot of Hillary supporters here, and I like a lot of Obama supporters here, even though I don't really like either candidate.

[DemBones DemBones]

23. Agreed, and I'm a Kucinich supporter.

Anybody can check out my old posts arguing against Clinton. I support her now because she can beat McCain and Obama can't.

[qnr]

8. Let me put it like this. I have supported the Democratic candidate in the General Election

in every single election since 1972, even if they weren't my primary choice. Now, thanks almost completely to the actions of Obama "supporters" here on DU and other progressive boards I have taken a hard look at the Senator from Illinois and am more than likely to be casting a write-in ballot (edit: if he gets the nomination).

[griffi94]

10. don't feel like you're alone

i'm in the same position. for me the tactics of far too many of the obama supporters are too much like the rw tactics i've seen the last 8 years. i've read threads where the obamanation shows up and doesn't even pretend to discuss whatever the thread is about but instead start throwing bombs.

[qnr]

13. It's unfortunate. I started out thinking that was great to have him, and defending

him against detractors. I've met many level-headed Obama supporters and there certainly are many here, but they get totally drowned out by the others.

[Hestia]

27. But can you blame them? The Gen Y'ers know of nothing else

but RW tactics from the last 7 (really 18) years. What else do they know of besides Rove, Gingrich, Santorum, Bush, Cheney, et al? It's our fault for not sitting them down and telling that life and politics doesn't work this way. If we really are the Democrats we say we are, then we need to train the one's coming up behind us. We've scattered to the winds and haven't been there for them to show them that adults used to rule the world, not thugs. Instead of treating them as pariah, show them.

[griffi94]

36. good luck with that

you can't even get them to be civil, and the harder you try, well they just get more agitated, and a few of them get down right rabid. it's like listening to the fox news channel.

[tyne]

11. I think it's time to

purge the dem party of these extremists (Clinton's and Obama's).

We've got too much work to do besides calming the drama queens/kings and petting the "I'm a victim at every turn" types.

JMO

[qnr]

14. I agree. I carry signs at polling places. Most of us basically want to

get Republicans out of the White House, it's a shame that I'm feeling like I am - but I won't deny that I am feeling that way.

Edit: "Most of us" being the Hillary and Obama supporters. Even there though, you have some on both sides that won't have anything to do with the other camp.

[bicentennial_baby]

19. Awwww, thank you!!

You want us out? Don't come crying when you don't have our votes.

[Forkboy]

21. Dah comrade.

[woolldog]

20. lol

:eyes: why do some people act as if DU is some sort of caucus, where supporters need to win you over to their side?

It's a f'ing message board and you're really a sad individual if you decide whom to vote for based on how mean some people are to you on a board.

[hfojvt]

25. What a mean thing to say

Just for that, I'm not gonna read or watch Peanuts any more.

[qnr]

40. I understand your point, however, to be clear: this change isn't due to snide

comments, unpleasantness, general disrespect or whatnot. The change is due to my thoroughly re-evaluating the candidate and disapproving of what I see. The actions prompted the re-evaluation. Earlier, I was aware of items that I was willing to gloss over, for the sake of party unity. Following the deeper research, that's no longer the case.

Edit: typo .. typing with a stylus out on a sunlit street.

[hfojvt]

43. I saw that

but it's really not about glossing over things because of party unity. It's about avoiding another four years of Bush/McCain. Obama may be horribly centrist, or homophobic, or ethically questionable, but he's not better on all those regards than McCain? If McCain is elected, will the Democrats become more Progressive and give us a more Kucinich-like candidate? That didn't happen in 1972, did it? Or 1980? Or 2000?

I guess I did it in 1992 and 1996, but that did not have much impact either.

[qnr]

44. It could come to that, I don't know. I'm pretty hardcore so if the race is close

I might vote for Obama, but it's a pretty sad state of affairs for me to have to put it in those terms when the Democratic party is fielding two historically significant candidates.

[qnr]

38. Ah, but that is the point. Previously, I did support Obama, in a genera! sense, but

thanks to Obama "supporters" I do not any more. This is all about making up my own heart and mind & my mind says I don't want to be associated with Obama if he associates with and encourages such individuals.

Thank you for your input.

[woolldog]

42. Yeah

Obama "associates" with the posters here on DU. Farkahn endorsed him and is a "supporter" so I guess that makes him an anti-semite too. LOL.

Please step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air. I'm serious. This place means too much to you if you're making your presidential decisions based on which candidate's posters you like here.

I don't care who you or anyone else supports. But that's just pathetic.

SHAME ON YOU, QNR. :rofl:

[qnr]

45. Again, thank you for your input. It has been read and totally disregarded. n/t

[woolldog]

47. Get help. I'm serious.

[qnr]

49. Noted. However, as a veteran of 30+ years of politics, and being online

since 300 baud accoustically coupled modem days back in 1981, I think you're worrying way too much about me. I'm being polite and responding to you, but generally I think GD: P is a circular firing squad, so this will be the last. Bye, enjoy your night.

[JohnnyLib2]

15. No to the word extremist and no to thinking all O supporters are the same.

I do, though, notice more O supporters who are unwilling or unable to be at all critical of him. Maybe many C supporters can criticize her because it's been acceptable and trendy for years to do so?

[Whisp]

17. same tactic used against Kucinich...

and most likely many of the same posters. that should be telling to anyone with an ear.

he was a fringe lunatic extremist, woo woo ufo believer, etc.,

[genie_weenie]

18. Obama = Karl Rove! Since he won't vote for Hillary...

[aquarius dawning]

22. Many of them are without a doubt. Obama is a revolution, not a candidate.

As such, he attracts morethan hisn fair of the extremists and, IMO, many who would not normally be considered an extremist are leaning in that direction. I suspect that if he loses, there will be some degree of violence especially if he loses via super delegates.

[democrattotheend]

26. We're not extremists, we're cultists!

Didn't you get the meme? }(

[DemGa]

28. I voted no -- I see Obama as deceptive

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. And I will say it again:

Using the effects of the right-wing attacks against Hillary won't be forgotten by many Dems-- it was quite a betrayal. The negativity you see here is due in large measure, to a strong undercurrent of negativity in Obama -- projected on Hillary, of course.

If nominated, I foresee this negativity times ten. Fasten up!

[burythehatchet]

31. Every day is Oppossite Day for DemGa

Very humorous posts. Thanks.

[DemGa]

32. Care to be specific?

You don't refute my point. But that's okay.

[burythehatchet]

34. Sure. Ever look at a negative of a picture?

The shades are reversed, black is white, white is black....that's how I see your logic and assertions, exactly the opposite of what is generally accepted reality.

[DemGa]

35. "generally accepted reality" -- in a political movement?

Oh that's never gone astray. Good one. Now I've had a laugh. :)

But still you don't refute my point -- and still it's okay.

Ed. That is an interesting metaphor!

[meow mix]

29. i consider most DU'ers to be extremists lol which i mean as a compliment.

just sayin

[rodeodance]

30. I consider your hollow-minded poll to be divisive. --

[MadBadger]

33. Then put my divisive ass on ignore.

[rodeodance]

37. Your response fits your OP

[JVS]

46. Extremely awesome!

[Occam Bandage]

48. Woo! X-TREEEEEEEM!