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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:41 AM
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Does Obama Get It?
Obama has been accused by the GOP of not being "patriotic". Glenn Greenwald discusses Obama's excellent response to this charge:


Far more notable is Barack Obama's response to these depressingly familiar attacks. In response, he's not scurrying around slapping flags all over himself or belting out the National Anthem, nor is he apologizing for not wearing lapels, nor is he defensively trying to prove that -- just like his Republican accusers -- he, too, is a patriot, honestly. He's not on the defensive at all. Instead, he's swatting away these slurs with the dismissive contempt they deserve, and then eagerly and aggressively engaging the debate on offense because he's confident, rather than insecure, about his position:

About not wearing an American flag lapel pin, Obama said Republicans have no lock on patriotism.

"A party that presided over a war in which our troops did not get the body armor they needed, or were sending troops over who were untrained because of poor planning, or are not fulfilling the veterans' benefits that these troops need when they come home, or are undermining our Constitution with warrantless wiretaps that are unnecessary?

"That is a debate I am very happy to have. We'll see what the American people think is the true definition of patriotism."


Ever since 2002 -- at least -- most national Democrats have quivered with fear the moment Republicans utter words like "patriotism" and "national security." Traumatized by the 2002 mid-term elections, George Bush's 70% approval ratings, and the media's lock-step adoration of the Commander-in-Chief, to this day they become frozen the moment such attacks are even suggested and desperately and defensively try to comply with whatever demands are made of them. Like many trauma victims, they can never break free of the terror from their past, and still live perpetually in 2002, whereby George Bush's invocation of the words "patriotism" and "terrorism" can send them into spasms of fear and submission.

Perhaps (in part) because he wasn't in Washington in 2002, Obama's response here is the opposite of all of that. He's not the slightest bit defensive. To the contrary, he went out of his way to raise numerous examples of why it is the flag-waving Republicans whose "patriotism" ought to be in doubt, if anyone's should be. Without having to do so, Obama even went and raised the issue which Republicans currently think is their big, bad weapon -- warrantless spying on Americans -- and used it against them, to argue that spying on Americans is a profound violation of core American political principles, a far more substantive test of "patriotism" than what pretty accessories one wears with one's clothes.

(snip)

Slimy accusations that one is "soft on the Terrorists" or "unpatriotic" will be effective if people see the accused, in response, nervously trying to deny the accusations, trying to run away from one's own beliefs, defensively trying to comply with the demands of the accusers in order to make the accusations go away. By contrast, the accusations will be rendered worthless if the accused stands by one's own principles and convictions and aggressively seeks out the debate, turning the accusations around on the accusers.

Most Democrats have yet to learn that lesson. Obama's response here strongly suggests that he has.


(emphasis mine) Finally someone who understands how to frame. Does Obama Get It? He does indeed.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
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1. Obama is demonstrating that patriotism is loyalty to our principles, not flag waving, not war making
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
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2. Don't think of an elephant...
:toast:

NGU.


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:46 AM
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3. He really does
That is the effectively delivered response encaging the other side. What are they left with to say?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:46 AM
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4. Oh yes. This is a guy who gets how to fight and win.
he's a smart fighter who knows exactly where to slip the knife.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 AM
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5. Obama's got a backbone.
That's something our party has sorely needed for the last eight years.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:59 AM
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9. Welllllll. . . . he could demonstrate it a little more in the Senate
But I love his response here.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:08 PM
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10. What do you mean?
What should he be doing in the Senate differently?
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:33 PM
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11. Gosh, I don't know
How about showing up to vote against the Kyle Lieberman "War on Iran" bill?

Voting against increased funding for Iraq? Just once?

Leading the filibuster against the amnesty for lawbreaking telecommunications corporations.

Trying to restore our rights and fighting against the "unitary executive".

etc. Basically everything we would actually want Democratic senators to do which never seem to get done.

You know, leading.

Maybe I expect too much from a freshman Senator. But it's not like Hillary is doing any of these things, either.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:47 PM
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12. Ah, you're one of those people not paying attention.

"Voting against increased funding for Iraq? Just once?"

Obama has voted against funding.

"Maybe I expect too much from a freshman Senator."

I think considering that he's a freshman Senator running a presidential campaign and spent a considerable part of 2006 stumping for the Democratic landslide in both the house and the senate, he's done a hell of a job.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:56 PM
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13. So would you consider that, in total, Obama has displayed
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 01:59 PM by ProfessorPlum
leadership and courage in the Senate?

That's not been my impression, but your mileage may vary. I think he's a hell of an organizer and a campaigner, and that isn't a bad thing to have that in your candidate either. But "backbone"? As commonly defined on DU? I think the jury is still out on that.

He does know how to frame an issue, though . . .

Edit - what the hell, I linked to my own OP. Back to work now.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 AM
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6. Excellent.
And I shall refrain from listing examples of how Hillary handles similar charges.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:54 AM
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7. gets it and
gives it. 'bout time we had a candidate that can do this. it's why i love him.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:55 AM
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8. Absolutely. Obama understands that you don't beat the Republicans by accepting their
definitions of patriotism, strength, and leadership.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 11:49 AM
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14. k
too late to r
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