Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama 'Smear Photo' Story Is Attack on Hillary!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:00 AM
Original message
Obama 'Smear Photo' Story Is Attack on Hillary!
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 11:02 AM by Egalia
So, first the now-infamous photo of Obama wearing tribal garments appeared in a supermarket tabloid called, The National Examiner (Feb 4). Next the photo was seen on the right-wing message board Free Republic where a freeper commented:

"Good Job, it needs to get to Drudge."

Then the photo traveled to right-wing blogs like Sweetness & Light. Next thing you know, the photo arrived at the Drudge Report, replete with screaming headline:

CLINTON STAFFERS CIRCULATE ‘DRESSED’ OBAMA!

<...>

Drudge says he got the photo in an email from Clinton staffers. So, where exactly is the actual email, Drudge? Did the dog eat it? But who in this lunatic asylum called America freaking cares about a little thing like evidence? Proof? Innocent until proven guilty? Not the media, not Obamaians, certainly not Obama. . .

"Obama staffers are pushing the "smear" angle hard. . . On comment boards across the blogosphere, Obama supporters are dropping words like "cynical," "disgusting," "despicable," "shameful" and, worst of all, "Rovian." The point, of course, is to suggest that the Clintonistas are slyly pressing for advantage among credulous, bigoted Americans who a) believe (despite reality) that Obama is Muslim, b) consider being Muslim a bad thing and c) would somehow see this innocuous image as "evidence" of Obama's Muslimness. Which, if true, would be pretty damn Rovian."

And this is an attack on Obama??? Are you f**king kidding me?

People have lost their f**king minds. If this sorry nation was a human being, s/he'd be forever locked away in a straight-jacket in a high-security lunatic asylum. That goes quadruple for the pure as the driven snow politics-of-hope we call the Sainted Obama Bandwagon.

There was a time when no sane person on the left would be caught believing anything found on Drudge, let alone a character assassination of one of our own. . . What hurts most is that Obama's style is to condemn the Clintons without one shred of evidence. And why not? Portraying the Clintons as rotten-to-the-core racists is working out pretty damn good for Obama.

Karl Rove is laughing his f**king head off.

In my humble opinion, when someone is being character-assassinated, sanity and fairness dictate that we withhold judgment until we see the proof. There is a truckload of honest and fair critiques about both of the flawed candidates. Why are we rushing to damn either one of them as hateful Immoral Evil-Doers?

God, I cannot believe what we have become. . .

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/drudge-msm-obama-camp-attack-hillary.html

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. But instead of denouncing it, her chief lackey used it to score cheap...
...political points against her opponent.

Rover's laughing his head off, alright.

:eyes:

NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. You can say the same for Ploufe and Obama
In fact --you can say it about THEM first.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. What's a Ploufe? Or are you too busy...
...calling people names and ridiculing them to provide a link?

NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. What's a Ploufe???
:rofl:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. There's my answer. Busy ridiculing.
NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Seriously
If you really knew this story or even anything about Obama you would know who David Ploufe is.

I need to link to David Ploufe if I mention his name??



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. He's somebody on the campaign. I know that.
So what?

NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. So what do you mean what's a Ploufe?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #2
17. Say what..about who...first?


The Drudge Report warms to the Clinton camp, or is it vice versa?
By Jim Rutenberg
Published: October 22, 2007
WASHINGTON: As Senator Barack Obama prepared to give a major speech on Iraq one morning a few weeks ago, a flashing-red siren alert went up on the Drudge Report Web site. It read, "Queen of the Quarter: Hillary Crushes Obama in Surprise Fund-Raising Surge," and, "$27 Million, Sources Tell Drudge Report."

Within minutes, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's fund-raising success was injected via Drudge into the day's political news on the Internet and cable television. It did not halt coverage of Obama's speech or his criticism of her vote to authorize the war in 2002, but along the front lines of the campaign - the hourly, intensely fought effort to capture the news cycle or deny ownership of it to the other side - it was a telling assault.

Clinton's aides declined to discuss how the Drudge Report got access to her latest fund-raising figures nearly 20 minutes before the official announcement went to supporters. But it was a prime example of a development that has surprised much of the political world: Clinton is learning to play nice with the Drudge Report and the powerful, elusive and conservative-leaning man behind it.

That man, Matt Drudge, came to national prominence a decade ago as a nemesis of the Clintons who used the Web to peddle, gleefully, the latest news and rumor generated by the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

That people in Clinton's campaign orbit would tip off the Drudge Report to its fund-raising numbers is in part a reflection of her pragmatic approach to dealing with potential enemies like Newt Gingrich or Rupert Murdoch.

Clinton's communications team, led by Howard Wolfson, is not leaving Drudge to the Republicans. Five current and former Democratic officials said Clinton has on her side the closest thing her party has ever had to Rhoades in Tracy Sefl, a former Democratic National Committee official. The officials said that Sefl had established a friendly relationship with Drudge and that Clinton's campaign often worked quietly through her to open a line of communication with Drudge.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/22/america/drudge.1-156891.php



Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.

Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused"



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail


A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs



Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance

By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. What does that have to do with the photo story?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #19
30. I am stunned...
You said:
You can say the same for Ploufe and Obama In fact --you can say it about THEM first.

My question to you was...Say what...about who..first? Perhaps I wasn't clear. I would like to know what you meant by that.
My reason for posting this, is because obviously you can see a pattern. I would assume, that anyone who has read this history would make a logical assumption that this is just another attempt by the Clinton Campaign to pull a "McCain's black baby" smear.

Hillary Campaign Acknowledges That County Chair Backing Hillary Passed Along Obama Muslim Smear Email
By Greg Sargent - December 5, 2007, 1:31PM

A day after the Hillary campaign hit the Obama camp for bullying voters in nasty phone calls, the Hillary crew has just acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email that smears Obama as a Muslim by repeating the false claim that he attended a madrassa as a child.

The Hillary campaign confirms that they are asking the county chair to step down from the campaign.

The identity of the "Clinton county chair" -- or, as the Hillary camp prefers it, "volunteer county coordinator" -- is not yet known.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/12/hillary_campaign_acknowledges_that_hillary_backer_passed_along_obama_madrassa_email.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Be stunned then
I'm talking about the photo story.

The first to attack and use the Drudge story for political advantage was David Ploufe.

They could have (and rightly) attacked Drudge --instead they attacked Clinton --with zero proof.

So be "stunned" all you like.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. yup....I am stunned...
..but I guess I should know better. After all nothing 'counts', and nothing 'matters'. This should be viewed as an isolated incident, and nothing that came before is relevant. I should suspend logic until the apology. :rofl: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. I'd say you just described yourself
and very well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Yes I did...
stunned I am. Do you read the words as they appear on the page, or do you have an alternate method of divining meaning?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. I guess
I just have better reading comprehension than you.

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. ah..well then please...
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 PM by stillcool47
help me understand
Post*: "But instead of denouncing it, her chief lackey used it to score cheap.....political points against her opponent. Rover's laughing his head off, alright."

*Your response: "You can say the same for Ploufe and Obama. In fact --you can say it about THEM first."

Now, obviously you can not say with any certainty that Ploufe and Obama used it 'first' to score cheap political points. However, you can say with certainty that the Clinton campaign uses these kind of tactics with increased frequency. Hence my post. So...my question to you was, how could you possibly say *"In fact" you can say it about THEM first?" I guess you didn't understand my question?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. I'll go slowly for you
Rather than waiting to even see if the Clinton campaign was even really involved, Ploufe immediately pounced and made an attack on the Clinto Camp with zero proof.

Even Drudge had not said the Clinton campaign "sent' the photo. Drudge said they 'obtained' the photo.

Ploufe used the Drudge Report slime piece to score political points against the Clinto Camp.

They did so immediately --and they did so first.

It's a FACT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. I can't imagine why...
Memories, light the corners of my mind. Misty water-colored memories of the way we were

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------

Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Scattered pictures, of the smiles we left behind. Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail


A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs



Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance

By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

If we had the chance to do it all again tell me, would we? Could we? Memories, may be beautiful and yet What's too painful to remember we simply choose to forget

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #50
52. oh look!
Spambot!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Well, they did denounce it
but not at internet speed (details at the link). In this great Misinformation Era, by the time you get a grip on a situation, the muck is halfway around the world. The campaign denounced it and challenged the lazy gullible media to prove it. I know, I know, they should stop whatever they're doing and interrogate 700+ staffers every time someone makes an accusation against Hillary!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. I'm glad they eventually denounced it, after taking a cheap shot over it.
An adult would have said nothing till they had enough information.

NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CitizenRob Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. "but not at internet speed" ...
but not at internet speed
And there (stated succinctly for all to read) is the number one reason why Hillary cannot win.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #4
21. It was a swift enough denouncement for the UK
What's wrong with the US media?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #4
51. but did they reject it?
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 11:54 PM by mkultra
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. The Clinton Camp non-denial denials reminded me of...
... Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan and Tony Snow all rolled up into one.

It was a kind of "Nuh-uh! Look over here!" kind of ludicrous argument they were making. It made me scratch my head... so is this what a Clinton White House would look like, too?

Clinton did herself some real damage with that leak. It's a shame she doesn't have seemingly any control over her staff at this late date.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
26. What cheap political points would those be?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:18 AM
Response to Original message
6. Oh lordy.
If the Drudge story is true, then someone in the Clinton campaign, we don't know who or whether or not they had permission, was trying to attack Obama.

If the Drudge story is bullshit, then it's an attack on Clinton by God only knows who. Possibly just Drudge. It's not like he doesn't have a history of wantonly attacking the Clintons.

The only thing anyone can say with any certainty is that Drudge just bumped up his page views and his ad revenue for a couple of days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:32 AM
Response to Original message
13. Thank you for posting one of the most accurate posts of the week!
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nlb Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
14. WOW
it takes a lot of imagination to come to this.

utter crap thats what it is !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:35 AM
Response to Original message
16. has the Obama campaign denied it?
:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. No, the Obama Camp has NOT denied it
I wonder why not?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 AM
Response to Original message
18. Hillary surrogate claims Obama is Somalian
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. What is a "Hillary surrogate"? Why should I care?Does this mean "speaks for Hillary"?
I am confused as to the term. What is a "Hillary surrogate" and why should I care? Serious question here. After watching the RW gossip mongering anonymously made up bs from Drudge make the rounds yesterday, I prefer to know whom exactly is claiming what and have a tendency to attribute responsibility of a statement directly to whoever made it. So, what is a Hillary surrogate and why would it matter? Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. Hillary seems to believe Tubb Jones represents her:
"My good friend Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones from Ohio represented me on one of the TV programs in the last day or two— some of you may have seen her," Clinton said during a speech at Hunter College in New York City Wednesday. "And she was on against someone representing my opponent and for the first time, actually, the host, asked the representative of my opponent to name one accomplishment."

link


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. Duh,
Represent means more than being your Congressperson. Duh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. What the hell are you talking about? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #32
45. Thank you. That was incredible (video).
She did not know what she was talking about. Africa is a continent. Obama's "native country" is not Somalia. She is blowing hot air and making herself look very foolish. Perhaps she needs to THINK before she talks, or get a script writer, or some such. Geography lessons? As others who have made really stupid statements while working with a campaign, she needs to be taken to task for what she said BY the campaign she's working for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #18
23. She got it from the media ..
this is the Misinformation Age, remember? But go ahead blame it on Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #18
27. That would be Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH)
So now we're going to condemn her too? Is there no such thing as an honest mistake? You really think this African American woman is smearing Obama? Give me a fucking break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnLSkWulPVE&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/180147.php

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. "Give me a fucking break." She claimed Obama was wearing the clothing of his country!
Are you that obtuse?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. And that's an insult?
Somali is close to his father's county,Kenya. Regardless, I still don't get how this is an insult!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. Is Obama a native of Somalia? Is Obama's father running for president?
Is cluelessness and denial the only thing fueling Hillary's campaign?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. It is a lie. Somalia is not his country and claiming it is is a lie. eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
24. Karl Rove is laughing his f**king head off. YES he is
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #24
49. No he's not, he's an idiot. The Repubs are in worse shape then ever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
25. That is quite the spin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mculator Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
28. It's true.
Excellent post, as always, Egalia.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:09 PM
Response to Original message
29. Drudge won n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
38. In other news, up is now down n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mculator Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
42. BUMP
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:16 PM
Response to Original message
47. Did we see Hillary or her campaign DENOUNCING this!
Just come right out and say "This is not the type of thing any DEMOCRAT would do to a fellow Democrat."

Its like the moment when the GOP smeared Kerry and Cleland, McCain should have stood up and said "This is not what America does to it's Veterans"

Hillary should have stood up and said "This is not what fellow Democrats do to each other" I didnt hear that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 02:21 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC