Do you hate Hillary Clinton?

[jlake]

There seems to be alot of people who do.
Up or down vote. Be Honest.

....and No! To all of you Obama supporters who would like to take the non-controversial position and
vote "present" that is not an option!

[angie_love]

1. No I honestly do not hate her, wouldn't have voted for her for senate if I hated her

Someone I hate is Bush/Cheney. I reserve the hatred for repugs not dems.

[Stand and Fight]

2. Not in the least.

I do profess a sincere hate for the Bush administration's policies and positions.

[jlake]

3. We have our first "winner". Really sad.

*I* don't even hate Obama. I just strongly dislike his positions and dishonesty and think he is unfit for the office of president.

[angie_love]

9. what don't you like about his positions?

[Umbram]

91. Double post.

.

[Umbram]

92. jlake flipped a coin.

It landed Hillary, and he's been a supporter/hack ever since.

Fighting the good fight, he maxes out his three posts per day posting this kind of divisive drivel and avoiding any sort of relevance at all costs.

jlake also assures us 20x per day that he/she will not vote for B.O. if he is nominated, because the coin he flipped between these two carbon copies of each other landed Hillary.

I'd like to take this moment to thank jlake for his/her fine work and dedication.

[jlake]

96. Sorry. The computer says "no"

[Warren DeMontague]

74. So, by "unfit" I take it, if he's the (D) nominee you won't vote for him? Yes? No?

If that's the case, you've got a lot of nerve continually bitching about the other side.

See, if Hillary wins the nomination, I'll vote for her. In a heartbeat.

Frankly, I think anyone who won't commit to voting for our nominee, whichever of these fine, non-hateful Senators it happens to be, has their head firmly up their ass. THAT is "sad".

[Alexander]

81. jlake has said he will vote for McCain over Obama.

Honestly, they should ban this idiot.

[JuniperLea]

107. You should alert on those posts...

Skinner says that is a big no-no!

[Alexander]

110. I have repeatedly. I think for now they are continuing to let jlake post.

Once we're certain of a nominee, I think jlake will have a week to shape up or ship out.

[jlake]

127. LOL. Obama won't be the nominee. You know Hilly's gonna rock this thing!

[MagsDem]

79. I agree. But I do HATE his supporters

I think they are the most disgusting people I have ever held witness to in 29 yrs of supporting dem candidates. They truly disgust me, and though I came here hoping to find a single reason to support Obama, they convinced me that every misgiving I had about his was well founded.

[Warren DeMontague]

90. Thus sayeth the person whose arguments againt Obama boil down to his name and his skin color.

:eyes: :nopity:

[damonm]

105. Thanks for the sliming...

Don't know me from Adam, yet you call me "disgusting" because I'm an Obama supporter.

So we know where YOUR level of logic is. Right there with the Bushies.

[damonm]

104. Define Obama's "dishonesty" -

Or I gotta call shenanigans.

[scheming daemons]

4. More and more each day........ she's bringing it on herself.....

Actually... I don't hate her. I hate Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe, Howard Wolfson, and all the other assholes that are running her campaign and turning her into a caricature of herself.

[cbayer]

5. What's your point jlake?

What is it you are trying to do here?

Do you have some kind of thesis that you are trying to prove or disprove?

Because I really hope you have some kind of real point to make here.

Otherwise, you are just pouring gas on an already out of control fire.

[jlake]

Just seeing how many people *support* Obama and how many people have blind

hatred for Hillary Clinton.

[gateley]

20. It's not either/or, you know.

I tend to support Obama, and actually like a lot about Hillary.

[jlake]

24. That would quality you as an Obama supporter, not a Hillary hater.

that is exactly the point of this poll.

[gateley]

40. Okay - so did I "pass"?

:eyes:

[jlake]

41. Um, not sure why you feel the need to be snarky about it.

[gateley]

49. I'm in a snarky mood tonight and I hate it - and I can't seem to shut up.

I really apologize. :pals:

[LittleClarkie]

116. Probably the same reason you felt the need to be snarky in your OP

what with the "present" comment and all.

[Jamastiene]

63. Just to be a smartass...

Okay - so did I "pass"?

This part, "pass"?, should be "pass?" The quotation marks go outside the punctuation.


















:P






















:hide:

[gateley]

66. I'm really not in the mood. But I hope you enjoyed yourself. nt

[Jamastiene]

80. Oh, I did.

I did. :P

[anonymous171]

6. Why do you hate America?

This question is just as stupid.

[jlake]

10. You are kidding - right? I have a yes or no choice... that is a loaded question.

[MadBadger]

7. sometimes.

[jlake]

16. How'd you vote?

[MadBadger]

21. I didnt.

[jlake]

26. hmmm....

[MadBadger]

38. hmmmm....what?

[damonm]

106. Deleted

[ossman]

Can the Hillary people vote... then say if they knew then....

blah, blah,

And didnt Hillary vote present more in THE UNITED STATES SENATE?

Think so, sorry Hillbots, bye, bye,

[jlake]

11. Link?

[helderheid]

8. I hate ALL of you!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4772161&mesg_id=4772161

[Forkboy]

12. LOL...I love these polls.

[jlake]

14. How'd you vote?

[Forkboy]

27. I didn't.

[jlake]

28. I think I know why.

[Forkboy]

31. I think you'd be wrong.

But that seems like your usual territory, so you're on familiar ground at least.

[jlake]

65. I know I am right - and one of your posts on here confirmed my suspiction.

I wish you would just vote "no".

[Forkboy]

95. Ok, then you are right.

But I don't vote in many polls here. Including this one. It's a pointless question, to be honest, and has no bearing on anything other than to give Hillary supporters a chance to take the victim role.

[Johnny__Motown]

13. Got a "Dislike" choice? I can't honestly say I hate her.

[jlake]

15. That would be "no"

[southerncrone]

17. What I hate is the corporate take over of our govt.

[gateley]

18. No - I've always liked her and still find myself liking her at times.

I've just become disenchanted, shall we say. But I DO like a lot about her!

[David Zephyr]

19. This Obama supporter likes Hillary, but she's clearly lost and needs to exit the stage.

I hope no one hates Hillary.

[CTLawGuy]

22. pretty damn close

but nah I don't quite hate her. I'd vote for her over McCain.

[jgraz]

23. I like her much better now that she's not going to be the nominee.

[lastliberalintexas]

25. No, I just haven't cared for a number of her votes

She and Kerry gave tremendous anti-war speeches in October 2002, tore Bush's arguments apart in 10 different directions, represented liberal states which were opposed to invasion, and then voted for the damn IWR anyway. Clueless or calculating? Either way, I wasn't a Kerry supporter in 2004 and I'm not a Clinton supporter now.

But I don't hate her. I think she's probably a decent person in spite of her very public faults, and I think that she would certainly do far more for the lesser among us than any repub. So would Obama, though I don't support him either. I'm very picky. :)

[Forkboy]

30. Thanks for typing my thoughts out for me and saving me the trouble.

:)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

29. No, not at all.

[Mme. Defarge]

32. Nope --

I'd never vote for her, but I don't hate her.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. Nope. I like her. I respect her.

I think she's made some bad calls since she got in the Senate, particularly pertaining to the IWR. I think many of those moves were done purely out of political calculation, and bad political calculation at that. This has carried over into her campaign, which I think has been run extraordinarily poorly. I think she based much of her early campaign on trying to tell enough people, often enough, that her nomination was "inevitable". This didn't work. I'm not the only one to make this observation, in fact many Clinton-backing pundits have recently come to the same conclusion.

I think many of her supporters are hoppin' mad because they never understood that this is a primary contest, that there was no divine mandate to coronate HRC the nominee.

But I don't "hate" her. I look forward to her continuing as Senator from New York, and I will of course enthusiastically support her if she does win the nomination.

Frankly, I think a lot of the hate & venom shit-flinging around here about how "If ******* wins the nomination, I'm staying home/voting nader/writing someone else in" is done by brain dead morons, campaign operatives, concern trolls, GOP'ers or children-- and once we DO have a nominee, it will be fun to watch them all either shut the fuck up or get tombstoned because they don't understand the rules around here.

[JeffR]

34. Wrap your head around the idea that people can dislike her without

"hate" being involved. Wrap your head around the idea that her opponent looks probable for the nomination.

[jlake]

39. Um. I can certainly understand that. That would be a "no" vote btw.

[JeffR]

43. It was indeed a "no"

:)

[chknltl]

35. I am a supporter of Senator Obama. I have no real issue with her or

her supporters. I do have issues with those supporters of Senator Obama, Senator Clinton, Senator mCcain and Ralph Nader (sp?) who try to drive a wedge between democrats. As a democrat I take great cheer in the wedge that is driven between Senator mCcain and members of the republican party who feel that he is too "librul". Many of those unhappy republicans will sit out November and many others have decided to vote for Senator Obama! We should welcome those particular votes with no animosity.

I really hate seeing a similar wedge being driven among us democrats...I want to see a mandate come November. A mandate from WE THE PEOPLE where we take back our government in numbers that the gods will sit up and notice! I suspect the good citizens of Tehran are thinking along similar lines. Please, my fellow DUers join me, let us work together to keep a nuke from destroying their city. THEY ARE WATCHING US IN A GREAT DEAL OF ANXIETY YA'KNOW!!!
:grouphug:

[IA_Seth]

36. I caucused for her...

so the answer is rather obvious. As to some of her support here, well....

[Lone_Star_Dem]

37. It's politics, it's not a personal judgment against someone if you don't vote for them

It doesn't mean I don't like you, your candidate or your dog just because I might think there's a better choice. It just means I see things slightly differently.

[jlake]

42. Okay, that is not my point. There are people on here who do *hate* her as evidenced by the votes.

[Occam Bandage]

70. But yet very few. Most of us would happily vote for her in the GE,

which is more than you can say for Sen. Obama.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

88. 24 out of 115k people

Several of whom will be trolls. Or at least trolling to get a reaction from you.

That's just nothing. Not a big deal. An infantismal amount in the grand scheme of things.

For the vast majority of people, even here, it's politics it's not personal.

If it's becoming personal you should find a hobby. Visit the library. Go on a mini vacation. Spend time with your loved ones. Plant a garden. Get a pet. Do whatever it is you do when you step back, recharge your batteries and evaluate the meaning of life.

[Swamp Rat]

44. No. What's the purpose of this poll?

[jlake]

45. To see how many people actually hate Hillary Clinton. There is no hidden meaning.

It is what it is.

[Swamp Rat]

50. Doesn't seem there are many, and I doubt the 'Hillary haters' care much about the Democratic Party.

I personally wouldn't put up a poll that gives people the opportunity to send a hate vote her way.

Nevertheless, as you said, "it is what it is." :hi:

[jlake]

64. Quite a few voted "yes" unfortunately.

[Occam Bandage]

72. 88% voted "no," and I'm guessing you voted "yes."

[jlake]

77. No, I was the first vote - and it was a no.

But thanks for the hurtful comment.
I don't think that was necessary.

[Skittles]

46. "they" will NOT be honest

absolutely not

[jlake]

47. More are than I thought would be...

[quakerboy]

48. I dont hate her.

I just dislike her political strategy. I don't much care for her entourage either.

[IndianaGreen]

51. Hillary has done a fine job for New York

She should stay in the Senate where she belongs.

[Crunchy Frog]

52. No, I just don't want her to be the nominee. n/t

[Beregond2]

53. Hillary

Of course not. I am angry with her at the moment, and very disappointed in the choices she has made. But I have no doubt she is sincere in her desire to improve this nation, and I hope she will continue to use her gifts to do so.

[jlake]

54. Only 11 haters..... I don't think everyone has been honest.

[Bicoastal]

55. You've heard of "Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin?"

Ours is "Love the Politician, Hate the Campaign."

[jlake]

56. Yes, and that is fair. But I think there are quite a few on here who legitimately

hate Hillary Clinton.

[Bicoastal]

59. It happens.

:shrug:

[anonymous171]

57. OMG people disagree with your candidate

but don't hate her! Isn't that a good thing?

[jlake]

61. um, that is fine.... but not what this poll is about.

[Occam Bandage]

69. Or, rather, real Obama supporters are not the same as the Straw Obamites you bash.

[Warren DeMontague]

73. And here's a cardboard town where you can go play pretend with all those straw men. nt

[elocs]

58. Is "no....not" a double negative?

"I hate Hlllary", "I don't hate Hillary" would have been more simple. I have supported Obama for the last month after Edwards dropped out, but I do not hate Hillary. I wonder, if she gets the nomination and is elected would she be known as "President Hillary"? I realize that "Hillary" is an unusual name and we all know who it means, but isn't "Barack" also an unusual name. I mean, when I voted here in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago my ballot said Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Just wondering because I've never read a good explanation.

[stratomagi]

60. I don't hate her...

But at no point did I ever consider voting for her in the primaries. To me her argument about experience just means she's beholden to that many more special interests that she'll end up needing to make good on so many favors which will distract her from doing anything that will change the direction of our country. I don't think she's a bad person, she just decided to sell her soul to get here and got lost along the way.

[Jamastiene]

62. Alright, who were the assholes who voted yes? n/t

[Occam Bandage]

67. No. I simply think she's run one of the worst non-Rudy campaigns in memory.

[MrSlayer]

68. I don't know her personally, so no.

But there are a lot of people that hate her, I mean utterly despise her. And that is one reason why it's good that it's looking like she will not be the nominee.

[jlake]

89. Yes, we should always base our decisions on people influenced by the RW hate machine.

[Skip Intro]

71. I love Hillary Clinton - true Demcrat, enemies be damned.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!

[LSdemocrat]

75. To quote Brian Griffin from Family Guy: "I don't care what anyone says. I like Hillary Clinton"

[kowanda32]

76. I love Hillary and Bill

N/T.

[chknltl]

78. Pretty good poll I'd say

A much higher percentage of folks who do not hate Senator Clinton than it would appear from recent weeks on GD-P. Frankly I have always thought highly of the DU and it's membership. Way to go fellow DUers!

To all who voted "yes" and to any who would stir up trouble in the name of their candidate:
I don't know what to say to you... I heard someone with a strong country western style drawl, (some might call him a good ol'boy), on the Mike Malloy show tonight say something simple and yet profound: "To all you democrats who hate senator Obama or Senator Clinton to the point of refusing to vote should that candidate get the nomination, spend a day listening to right wing radio. If that is the kind of country you want to give up your vote to vote against..."

I would add: The good citizens of Tehran would like to not get nuked. The good folks of the Middle east would not like to have a reason to unite against America because another one of their countries got invaded yet again by the American bully out to steal THEIR natural resources. Maybe a mushroom cloud over an American city might make one reflect better on priorities. (Where have I heard that before...and yet thanks to bushco, is it truer today than four-five years ago?) I am fairly confident neither Senator Obama or Senator Clinton would give the good folks of the Middle East any reason to set off that nuke at a mall in Osh Kosh...Senator mCain on the other hand...well you already know the math. THAT, "My Friends" may indeed be what is at stake. HUMAN LIVES or HATE? Well that sums it up for me. Help us defeat the next bush and the insanity before it goes even further.

This presumes that we will even make it to the next election...with all the hullabaloo, is any one keepin an eye on george the deciderer??? He just loves doin' shit when folks ain't keepin a close eye on him.

[Guava Jelly]

82. Just because I hope she isn't the nominee

Doesn't mean that I hate her.
I hate a few of her votes though but if she wins I will vote for her

[casus belli]

83. I don't hate her at all. Some of her supporters maybe.... n/t

[saltpoint]

84. Nope.

[Window]

85. No. I do not hate Hillary at all.

I have, however, lost respect for beginning at the last debate and accelerating over the last few days.

If she ends up winning the nom, I would definitely vote for her.

[sendero]

86. I don't hate her..

... but I would hate for her to be president, she is on the wrong side of the most important issue facing America, Iraq.

Plus - she would have a really tough time beating McCain, she's just like him on the issues. Obama won't.

[Tesha]

87. No, I don't hate her. I simply will never support her for any elected office again. (NT)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

93. What's wrong with hating Hillary Clinton?

You ask that like it's a bad thing.

[SeaLyons]

94. Good post...

I love Hillary....

Hillary for President

[jlake]

97. Looks like there are quite a few vile haters....hopefully they are trolls & not Obama supporters.

[Mother Of Four]

98. I don't "Hate" HRC...

To hate someone, truly hate them you have to actually know them.

I think Hate is a really strong, and not very appropriate word.

[Marrah_G]

99. NOT HELPFUL !

[jlake]

103. Why do you say that? I think think it is helpful.

It gives Obama supporters a chance to show they can support Obama without hating Hillary, and exposes the true haters.

[Pryderi]

100. No, I do not hate Hillary Clinton. I dislike her tactics and campaign.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

101. I don't really hate anyone but you're pretty damn annoying (in here at least).

I'm sure in real life you're a joy to be around.

[jlake]

119. I am much more mean in real life than on here. I try to be fair and pleasant on DU.

[powergirl]

102. No, I do not hate her and I'm an Obama supporter

I will vote for her in the general election if she wins the Democratic nomination. But I support Obama in the primary. Let me get my armour on!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

108. Get over it, I don't hate Hillary - we are in politics

[Blarch]

109. I hate Karl Rove, and all those who praise him.

So yes, by default, I hate her. She has taken a path that I can't go down. She left me, I didn't leave her.

[Fox Mulder]

111. I don't hate her.

I just don't care for her.

[Deja Q]

112. Seems insincere and pandering.

Obama is also guilty, but when reacting to, um, "bad news", Hillary's reactions were not those of strength. Right down to pointing at comedy sketch shows when making some point more bizarre than even my most inane Lounge post.

Will she do the same to other world leaders?

[David Zephyr]

113. There are 17 people who "hate" Hillary here? Hate? That makes me sick.

Anyone who hates Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass and go make mudpies in a pool of quicksand.

17 people? That is really, really sad.

[slick8790]

114. I think you;'d be hard pressed to find any Democrat not "hated" by 17 people on a site of thousands.

[jlake]

120. Up to 40 now.... I hope they're all trolls.

[slick8790]

121. Yeah, it's really kinda depressing. n/t

[Arkana]

115. No.

I hate her campaign, Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson, and the fact that her supporters have unceasingly insisted that anyone who does not support her is a misogynist.

But I don't hate Hillary--nor do I hate Bill. They're still Democrats, dammit.

[Catherine Vincent]

117. Yes. I hate Hillary Clinton.

And I speaking for the Clinton haters on here that won't own up to it!

[NorthCarolina]

118. I Don't "Hate" Hillary the person

but I do dislike her politics.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

122. Hate? No, just the usual contempt I feel for ambitious politicians.

She's not particularly special in the group of egomaniacs seeking power at any price.

[Hawaii Hiker]

123. No way...I like BOTH our candiates, will vote for whomever our nominee is..I do HATE

John McCain though....Ever since his stunt in Iraq last summer proclaiming it's safer there now (while he's being escorted w/100 US troops & 2 Black Hawk helicopters hovering overhead)....Yeah, Iraq is real safe John....

[candice]

124. I think Hillary would be a great President; Obama is not qualified...

..the worst Dem is better than the best Republican, however. McCain will owe the neanderthals a lot is he is elected.

[tammywammy]

125. No, of course not

While I do dislike her as a candidate, I don't know her personally to love or hate her.

[nookiemonster]

126. Nope. Not at all.

n/t

[EmilyAnne]

128. NO WAY!

By the way, have you read up on how a "present" vote is often used strategically in the state of Illinois? I'm not looking to excuse Obama on every issue. For example, the McClurkin thing pisses me off. Still, before deciding to support him, I was concerned about those present votes so I did some reading. Obama's record is NOT perfect. I think he has made some decisions with a his electability in mind. But, I don't think the present votes were mere acts of laziness or lack of leadership qualities. Just my opinion, of course.

[Cheeseburger Walrus]

129. I voted no...

with one caveat. I do not like her pandering to the right on non-issues like flag burning, and video game violence, when there are actual people dying in the real world ( Iraq; War on drugs etc...) and the protection of freedom of speech must always begin with what you find in poor taste or outright offensive.