Clinton on photo: 'Why is anybody concerned about this?"

[Blue_Roses]

February 25, 2008 6:02 PM

ABC News' Teddy Davis and Jacqueline Klingebiel Report: During a Monday interview with ABC's Dallas affiliate, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., did not flatly deny the DrudgeReport's charge that her campaign forwarded a photo of rival Barack Obama in traditional African dress.

She then turned the tables on her Democratic rival and accused him of using the controversy surrounding the alleged leaking of the photo to distract the public's attention from deficiencies in his platform and experience.

"I know nothing about it," Clinton told ABC affiliate WFAA. "This is in the public domain. But let's just stop and ask yourself: 'Why are you -- why is anybody concerned about this?'"

Clinton said that she found questions about whether her campaign leaked the photo to be "really laughable."

"This is one more attempt by my opponent's campaign to change the subject," said Clinton, "From his health-care plan that won't cover everybody, from an economic plan that won't produce jobs, and from a record that is pretty thin when it comes to national security and standing up for our country around the world."

The former first lady argued that there are photos of her from around the world wearing "the costume of the country" she was visiting.

more...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/clinton-on-phot.html

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Why is she acting like this?:shrug: Good grief. She is OBSESSED with Obama. Does she talk about anything positive anymore?

[Occam Bandage]

1. Keep up the negativity, Hillary. You still have a slim lead in OH to blow.

[sendero]

9. Oh yeah...

... I'm going to vote for HRC because Obama is mad at her campaign for disseminating a meaningless photo, well, meaningless to sentient beings.

HRC should dance the limbo, there's no telling how low she can go!

One week, one more week of this bullshit.

[johnnydrama]

2. huh?

costume?

[LisaL]

5. So what?

There are photos of Hillary and Bill in costumes.
Photos of Bush in costumes.
Why can't Obama be in costume?

[Debi]

12. Are there also emails about Hillary being a Muslim terrorist ?

What?

No?

That's so what.

[LisaL]

17. So, wearing a costume makes one a Muslim terrorist?

You are off your rocker.

[Debi]

23. The false emails along with the photograph equal fear-mongering

and that is what is wrong with the Clinton campaign putting the photo out.

But you know that - just like Sen. Clinton knows that.

Feigning innocence and playing coy really doesn't work for such a politically calculating person.

[LisaL]

39. What false e-mails? Do you have evidence of these e-mails?

There are plenty of photos of politicians in costumes, including Hillary, and Bush, and Bill Clinton.

[stillcool]

48. there were several versions...

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

[Debi]

52. Did you just wake up from a long nap?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

[Yael]

Images have powerful messages

She is working the Manchurian Muslim theme in doing this.

I look at that pic and see a man in traditional african garb. Joe Sixpack looks at it and thinks al qaeda is infiltrating our government.

[LisaL]

32. If Obama is so concerned about Joe Sixpack, maybe

he shouldn't have posed for this photo.
This is ludicrous.
The photo is not photoshopped.
It's Obama in a costume.
So, give me a break.

[CreekDog]

64. So, since he is black, I guess it's okay if they constantly point out that he's black

Correct? I mean it's true right?

[Blue_Roses]

33. exactly.

nt

[ginnyinWI]

45. there are people who will believe it though

I heard some call up a Fundie radio show today. The just "know" Obama is secretly a Muslim, and that, to them means terrorist.

That said, they weren't going to vote for him anyway.

[Jamastiene]

62. What's Ignored driving at?

I have now seen the photo and can't understand what the big to do is.

[CreekDog]

65. Then why did her campaign share the photo?

I mean doesn't she have a campaign to win? Why would her staff waste time sending 'inconsequential' photos?

Why why why?

If it's because they think it would help the campaign, the question is why would they think it would help?

And that's when I think it's okay to start hating her.

[dicknbush]

72. AHHHH OK SO YOU ARE CONVINCED THAT HER CAMPAIGN DID SEND IT OUT ...LINK PLEASE

[CreekDog]

86. All they have to do is deny it

But they won't. And if they don't know, all they have to do is disavow it completely saying whomever did it, if they are from the campaign, they will be fired --but they won't.

That's why I believe they are a part of it. They had a lot to gain from being behind it and a full denial of involvement could absolve them but they won't provide it.

[babylonsister]

19. Yes, there's the difference. nt

[Debi]

29. SSSHhhhhhhh it destroys their argument n/t

[johnnydrama]

61. i don't know

I just wouldn't refer to the normal dress of a region of the world as a "costume"


I guess it's an ok way to say it, it just sounds weird to me.

[DesEtoiles]

3. That smug, faux-clueless bullshit really pisses me off.

[Occam Bandage]

10. It's not appealing to anyone. It's part of the reason she's sinking like a stone.

[rodeodance]

41. what's funny is that BO believed a RW website:

Topic subject Jeepers creepers Peeps, Get control of yourselves. Story was in the EXAMINER ON FEB 4th.
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758064#4758064
4758064, Jeepers creepers Peeps, Get control of yourselves. Story was in the EXAMINER ON FEB 4th.
Posted by MassDemm on Mon Feb-25-08 09:48 AM

And it all started at free republic.

please see for yourself.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip

[Joe the Revelator]

4. She really sounds off her rocker

completely and utterly losing it.

[Mojambo]

6. Interesting tactic. Put out this garbage and then attack your opponent for responding to it. n/t

[think4yourself]

42. Pure Rovian

Never thought I'd see the day the Clinton machine embraces KKKarl's bag of dirty tricks. But it's worked in the past... Only times are different now. They need a new set of tactics. Or just go away.

[dicknbush]

74. INTERESTING TACTIC...Put out the picture yourself and then feign outrage and blame someone else

And why are they upset with this photo? Why not just say Oh yeah Senator Obama was in blah blah land and this was an honor bestowed on him by the villager leader.....no big deal. Its the Obamanables who seem to be upset about this picture. Why?

[dempartisan23]

7. she is a cornered rat now

she knows only attack now. she must be defeated.

[Window]

8. Jealous

[billbuckhead]

11. Why was the Obama campaign so DESPERATE to repress this picture?

Maybe, people might start asking who Obama was visiting?

[Debi]

15. Will you please start a thread with this question?

:applause:

That's awesome!

[LisaL]

27. I am really curious about it myself.

There are plenty of photos of politicians wearing costumes.
What exactly is so special about this photo?

[anigbrowl]

66. 8-o

:puke:

[CyberPieHole]

73. Great question...

I hope you start a thread with that subject.

[dicknbush]

79. Personally I think the Obama campaign put the picture out so they could get upset about it

and say that it was the Clinton camp...Think about it OH that Hillary is so sneaky she would do something like this she is desperate isn't she. And of course idiots like we see on this board buy into it lock stock and barrel....go figure. I think this is as plausable as any other reason for putting the picture out.

[CyberPieHole]

84. I don't believe she had anything to do with it...the picture was in in The National Examiner...

a few weeks ago, it was hardly a secret! The CULT of Obama will do ANYTHING to win.

[BuyingThyme]

13. Boy, she nailed that one.

[thevoiceofreason]

14. "Why isn't his campaign sending out photos of me?!!!!"

It's all about me. I look good in traditional clothing. He's the muslim. Not me. It's about me. Me. Me. Me.

[Debi]

18. Uh, Hello...that's Muslim terrorist to you n/t

[sfam]

16. If nobody is concerned with this, why did she release it?

This is truly a disingenuous response from Hillary.

[maddiejoan]

21. she didn't release it

"I just want to make it very clear that we were not aware of it, the campaign didn't sanction it and don't know anything about it," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said in a teleconference with reporters. "None of us have seen the e-mail in question. If anybody has independent reporting that they've done on it I would welcome it."

[Occam Bandage]

22. Well, that settles it. Wolfson claimed the campaign didn't sanction any leak.

Note that does not claim that no leak occurred, nor would it be beyond the realm of possibility for Wolfson to be, er, stretching the truth.

[Debi]

25. I think they've given up on containing leaks in her campaign

x( Or they're giving the 'leakers' raises.

[maddiejoan]

30. But Drudge is unassailable as a source

gotcha

[Occam Bandage]

46. No such claim.

[yardwork]

24. Apparently the truth is meaningless to some people.

[rodeodance]

89. I find it very telling that BO BELIEVED Drudge when Drudge would not produce the

email.

BO is continuing to divide the party--

[Blue_Roses]

26. Oh. come. on.

Do you really believe after all the broo-ha-ha over this pic, that they haven't pulled it up yet? Yeah, o-kay, whatever:eyes:

[rodeodance]

91. Obama bears responsibilty here as he Believed in Drudge and drudge will not

even show his "evidence" ---its all heresay ----

[Bentcorner]

93. I thought Drudge gave "ANONYMITY GUARANTEED" to anyone

that sent him information? Wouldn't saying that it was someone from the Clinton campaign contradict that?

[rodeodance]

35. YOU expect her to not fight back?--IT WAS the BO camp who believed DRUDGE and criticized

Clinton first!

[dicknbush]

77. Hello Hello are you not paying attention The clinton campaign did not relaes the picture

You are falling for the brainwashing. read the story and get the facts straight then come back and join the discussion. Its the big lie say it often enough and it becomes the truth. Personally I think the Obama campaign put it out so they could say the Hillary put it out and that the reason they put it out was to embarass the Obama campaign but why would the Obama campaign be embarassed about this iff Obama is proud off his heritage ahhhhhhh .

[Sulawesi]

20. the old "non-denial denial"

[MonkeyFunk]

28. It sounds like she was asked about it

and answered the question. How is that obsessing about Obama?

[rodeodance]

31. HEY OP---why are you and many Obamafolk posting 100 plus posts today?? Obsessed much?

Why is she acting like this? :shrug: Good grief. She is OBSESSED with Obama. Does she talk about anything positive anymore?

[Blue_Roses]

38. defensive much?

[rodeodance]

51. obamafolk obsessed much?---yup they are. Enough said.

[Blue_Roses]

53. lol

taking a line from Hillary there...

I've not taken sides from either until after this weekend. The scolding was ridiculous and now this? It's not so much about Obama as it is the unraveling of Hillary. I'm disappointed and stunned that she is acting this way. I've supported the Clintons through hell and back and NEVER would I imagine on my worst day that I would be questioning her bizarre behavior.

But now, her behavior is way over the line--and she's not only making herself look like a fool, but she shows little regard for actually having a Democratic president.

[Cant trust em]

34. It's this kind of crap that really infuriates me

don't take responsibility or even put the blame where it belongs. Obama hasn't done anything here. She should be focusing on Drudge yet she blames Obama.

[rodeodance]

36. BO BELIEVED DRUDGE! THEN HE CRITIZERED HER!! ALL ON A WHIM

CAUSE A RW WEBSITE SAID SO.

STUPID FOR HIM TO DO SO.

[Blue_Roses]

40. wow, talking about obsessed...

calm down before you blow a blood vessel.

[rodeodance]

50. making sure the facts are out there for you.

[Cant trust em]

60. You're doing the same thing Clinton is doing

just the same redirection scheme. By not addressing the Drudge claims Clinton is buying into it to. This is between Drudge and Clinton. Clinton could have kept it that way, but she chose to attack Obama instead. This leads me to believe that her campaign (whether authorized or not) probably did circulate that photo.

[rocktivity]

37. Drudge wrote that the photo came from "stressed Clinton staffers"

THAT doesn't "matter" to you? If it's a lie, Hillary, why haven't you said so? Instead of finding it "laughable," shouldn't you be threatening Drudge with libel?

:headbang:
rocknation

[Blue_Roses]

43. one would think...

that with her so straight to set the mis-truths as she was Saturday, she would be more selective with what was said.

[rodeodance]

44. BO believed a RW Website ---what a hoot

[Blue_Roses]

47. you do know how silly that comment is

right?

[rodeodance]

49. not at all----BO camp got their info from DRUDGE--they believed.

[Raydawg1234]

54. The best thing for her to do, woulb be to make a statement CONDEMING the photo

[Skittles]

76. WH?????????

WHAT IS THERE TO "CONDEMN" ABOUT THAT PHOTO????

[Raydawg1234]

94. meaning anybody that circulated it

[Thrill]

55. I'm sure it is laughable to you Hillary

[Thrill]

56. They still haven't said they didn't send it

Because they know Drudge will out the person who sent it

[dicknbush]

70. Well maybe she doesn't know if someone from her campaign sent it...700 people are working for her

Fool......I can assure you if something similar was happening to Obamanable they would be doing the same thing...Whhhaaa we don know nothin bout no pictures. And how do you know that Obamanables didn't send it out themsleves just to create a controversy that would get all you wackos juiced up and heading out for a lynching...Oh am I allowed to say that...

[Enrique]

57. because she was asked about it

:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

58. Have you ever known a compulsive liar and had to feign interest in what they were saying?

That's what it's like for me with BOTH Clintons.

You know they are compulsive liars. They have perfected their delusion so well that they could pass a lie detector test. They have perfected their body language so you don't see their tell-tale signs when they lie.

It just is plain fucking creepy.

[dicknbush]

71. Well yeah thats why I listen to Obama actually an amazing liar well maybe a preacher in politicians

clothing actually.. So boring.

[rasputin1952]

59. Why should I care what Obama wore while visiting Africa...

The RW 9-11 nuts didn't care about Rudy looking like Chita Rivera...:D

[anonymous171]

63. WHY CAN'T SHE JUST DENY IT!!?!?!?

[anigbrowl]

67. That's really the last straw for me: Clinton is unfit to lead

All day today, I told myself this was, at worst, a tacky stunt by Clinton's PR people.

But when Clinton herself, who certainly knows the political significance of something like this (she's battle tested, you know), takes the 'who, me?' approach instead of saying that her campaign was not about such things.

I've wanted for Obama to win all through this campaign, but this is the first time I've felt I really want Clinton to lose. She does not deserve to be the Democratic nominee or America's President.

[dicknbush]

80. Hey I have proof that Obama put the pictur out himself so he could blame it on Clinton

I said so it is true. that my proof..Its as good as antyhting Obamanables have put out to try and hang this on Clinton..prove me wrong

[busymom]

68. So....she has denied

any knowledge of its release, has stated the photo shouldn't be a cause for alarm and that there are pictures of her wearing clothing native to other countries.

She said she had nothing to do with it. WTH is left to say?

[FlyingSquirrel]

78. "A senior Clinton staff member could not rule out the source of the photo"

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/25/photo-showing-obama-in-somali-garb-circulated-by-clinton-campaign-source/

That's a denial?

[dicknbush]

83. Well ask an Obama senior aid..His answer might be just the same how can you know whatt every one

is doing in a campaign.


An Obama supporter could just as easily put this out to embarass the Clinton campaign and say it was put out by her campaign...Prove that's not true!

[FlyingSquirrel]

85. I suppose. I guess I'm just not that into this thing, it's almost as bad as the "snub"

So I'll just stay out of it from this point on.

[The Anti-Bush]

69. The press needs something to report...

And if there is nothing, then they will just make it up.

[FlyingSquirrel]

75. GWB in Vietnamese robe.......

Seriously though, if she really felt it wasn't a bad thing then she should confirm it rather than "neither confirm nor deny".

And besides, guess what? The Obama campaign did not see fit to send a picture of HER in some costume to Drudge. Also, even if he had, there would be no racial, "Muslim" or other undercurrent to doing so (as obviously is the case here).

[Algorem]

81. why are people blaming her for it? any proof or just hot air?

seems more likely a dirty trick by someone wanting to blame her

[dicknbush]

82. Because they want to finish the republican hate machines work and put a knife into Hillary's back

The right couldn't destroy Hillary without the help of the left winged wackos ind the Democratic party and so the dems have done the really dirty work for the republicans and Dick Morris is very appreciative of your fine republican slime ball tactics in fact he is in awe of them. You did a much better job of destroying the Clinton family then he could do in the 15 years he has been after them. You guys did his dirty work in less then 6 months ......very comendable if your into destroying good people who want to help others!

[rodeodance]

90. Obama Believed the RW Drudge story and his followers, like sheep, believed also.

[Perry Logan]

87. Speaking of negativity, here's a thread suggesting Hillary is a Nazi...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4774225&mesg_id=4774225

[rodeodance]

88. crap--!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

92. What was wrong with what Hillary said.....I think it was a truthful and respectful repsonse .......

what di you want her to say?