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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:24 PM
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Anyone else starting to think that Kerry may have an insider in Bush's camp?
Seems like the Kerry campaign knows way in advance what the Bush teams next move is going to be and are just waiting to pounce when the time gets right. It has happened several times now since I have been paying attention. I am not sure about this but I think I am beginning to notice a pattern here.

Don

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:27 PM
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1. I think Bushco is just stupidly predictable. Which works to our
advantage. :hi:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:34 PM
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7. That's what I was going to say.
Also, the Kerry campaign has 3 years of Bush behavior to go by. They know these guys like the backs of their hands.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:07 PM
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12. Exactly, MrsGrumpy!
:)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:46 AM
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14. Exactly! Rove is A Ham Fisted Goon W/ 3 Moves
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 09:48 AM by Beetwasher
Once you know all of Roves moves, you'll know exactly what he's going to do...Everything they've done was totally predictable, even w/out a mole...

Move 1. Vicious frontal attack/smear (Flip/Flopper, Intern Story, Kerry responsible for 9/11 etc.)
Move 2. Backstab (Valerie Plame)
Move 3. Bait and Switch (Every "policy" they ever came up with)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:29 PM
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2. oh no, never.
It would be wrong for Kerry to infiltrate *'s campaign. Kerry is using great strategy to win. There is nothing underhanded or devious going on at the Kerry campaign.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:29 PM
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3. Don, you are a primary source for news on DU
you obviously spend a lot of time pouring over the news. If this is the conclusion you are coming to I am very inclined to agree with you!
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:31 PM
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4. Between the WTC Bombing and no WMD in Iraq
A lot of people lost love ones. Yes, I could see somebody in Bush "team" that want him out of power, probably over somebody dying, maybe a husband of a sister or something like that with no direction connection.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:33 PM
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5. I tend to think Rove is pretty predictable now
they play dirty...try to create false rumors, and bring up stuff that isn't even relevant (like how much money Kerry has). Rove doesn't have any other ideas. He just attempts to reuse the same crap every time. No creativity.

What makes the Bush team look real stupid (okay, well one of the many things anyway) is when they tried to portray Kerry as weak on defense, two republican senators come to Kerry's defense. This admin once had all the republicans on a very short leash but not anymore.

Rove thinks he so freakin' brilliant and yet most of the things he's tried so far has blown up in his face. The "mission accomplished" bs, the fake turkey...they made Bush look real stupid and overly political instead of compassionate and strong the way it was intended.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:44 PM
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9. maybe we should run a contest - guess roves next sleazy tactic!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:47 PM
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10. that would be a fun game!
we could also guess which media outlet will be the next one to do Rove's shit work...faux? drudge? Novak? Hmmm, so many choices.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:33 PM
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6. SSSShhhhhhhh!!
don't give them away!


And remember, Kerry is reading Clarke's book. He'll have a response soon. Timber!
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:39 PM
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8. There are a lot of angry CIA people
I think plenty of people in gov are sick & tired of everything, & they're talking.

Lots of people put the country above partisan ploitics.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:14 PM
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17. I think you hit the nail on the head...
In Business.... th BOSS controls everything.
Don't step out of line or you'll be canned... you know.
But in Government.... there is MUCH MORE at stake.
Some people (no matter what their political affiliation) will put the responsibilities to us that their office gives them first.... they know that while this will put them in Bush's sites.... the American Public will be grateful in the long run.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:53 PM
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20. The CIA is furious over Valerie Plame's outing.
Rank-and-file CIA feel that outing an undercover operative is treason, pure and simple. No administration has ever done it before.

And now * and his people are trying to blame 9/11 on the CIA.

Yes, I am certain that there are very angry people at the CIA. And you know, I wouldn't want someone in the CIA angry with me! Those people can find out a lot of things.

Like maybe what Awol was doing all those years ago.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:54 PM
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11. No I think
Bush* and the flying monkey rights MO has been ran and wrote about so much you can see it coming before it hits. I don't think Rove is as smart as some people give him credit for.
I'm going out on a limb here and say that I think this is their last hooray before their political deaths. Once the Republicans have lost the majority I think they will be hard pressed to gain it back for a very long time they have overplayed their hand and made to many enemies from within and screwed the majority of the people of this country.
I just don't see them coming out smelling good it makes not one wit of difference if JK has an insider or not when they fall it's going to be hard and of their own doing! That's the beauty of it, they are doing it to their selves!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 04:28 AM
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13. doesn't need an "insider"
plenty of people who have left the sinking U.S.S. Shrub are willing to talk, plus those still looking for a life raft have also passed along information...

and these people wouldn't be just the "big-wigs", they would also be the work-a-day-joes that have had access to or have seen things going on that makes them want to :puke:

If you want to know what is really going on in the mansion - you don't talk to the owners -- you talk to the help
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:54 AM
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15. Yeah. John McCain, Chuck Hagel, and
every other decent thinking human being across the aisle.

HATRED OF BUSH IS NOT LIMITED TO DEMOCRATS!
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:57 PM
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16. This guy
Rand Beers

Rand Beers resigned his National Security Council (NSC) position as special assistant to President George Walker Bush for combatting terrorism five days before the start of the Gulf War.<1>

Beers is described as a "lifelong bureaucrat, unassuming and tight-lipped until now. He is an unlikely insurgent. He served on the NSC under Presidents Ronald Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, Bill Clinton and the current Bush."

However, on June 16, 2003, "Eight weeks after leaving the Bush White House, he volunteered as national security adviser for Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), a Democratic candidate for president, in a campaign to oust his former boss."<2>

"When asked about Beers, Sean McCormack, an NSC spokesman, said, 'At the time he submitted his resignation, he said he had decided to leave government. We thanked him for his three decades of government service.' McCormack declined to comment further."<3>

"However it was viewed inside the administration, onlookers saw it as a rare Washington event. 'I can't think of a single example in the last 30 years of a person who has done something so extreme,' said Paul C. Light, a scholar with the Brookings Institution. 'He's not just declaring that he's a Democrat. He's declaring that he's a

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Rand_Beers

Worked for Clinton as well but...
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:35 PM
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18. Why not?
He had plenty of insiders in Dean's campaign.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:45 PM
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19. I think Mary-Beth is just outsmarting Rove...
It's pretty obvious that the whole vacation thing was bait, and the Bush camp played right into it.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:57 PM
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21. It seems clear that Kerry knew that Clarke's book would be out this week.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:59 PM
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23. Well it's obvious that Clarke isn't too happy with the Bush administration
So I'm sure that information wasn't all that hard to come by.
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Alex146 Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:59 PM
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22. Do you doubt that Rove has mutiable insiders in our camp?
hey I might be one of them
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