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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:26 PM
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Lieberman: "No Basis For" Richard Clarke's Charge Against Bush
Why won't this guy just shut the hell up or just come clean and admit that he's a Republican. I'm half expecting him to say that re-electing Bush wouldn't be such a bad thing everytime I see him on TV.

Anyway, here's the quote as it appeared on Fox News Sunday:

"The charge, if I hear it correctly, that Dick Clarke has made, that the Bush administration was more focused on Iraq in the days after September 11th than on September 11th, than getting back at the terrorists, I see no basis for and I think we have to be careful to speak facts and not rhetoric. Not to go about what happened in the past so totally that we divide ourselves in doing what I think both parties want to do, and certainly both presidential candidates want to do, win the war on terrorism and succeed in stablizing and democratizing Iraq."
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:28 PM
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1. That croaking DINO needs to be put out to pasture (n/t)
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:28 PM
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2. Thanks a lot, Joe
If he's not going to help, he just needs to go away and be quiet.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:30 PM
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8. What's the difference between Zell Miller and Joe Liberman?
Nothing.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:24 PM
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37. Miller openly supports Bush re-election, Liberman isn't open!
Every time I hear Miller, he's talking against Dems. I'm actually surprised he didn't switch parties. I detest that guy, and I live in Ga.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:29 PM
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3. How in hell would he know?
Was he in on the meetings? Was he part of the Bush* cabinet and just wasn't telling us? What a moran.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:30 PM
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hmmm
"Was he part of the Bush* cabinet and just wasn't telling us?"

Is he telling us now, maybe?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:38 PM
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15. that's what I was thinking
gawd, what a f***ing whore Lieberman is. WTF was Gore thinking when he selected such trash for his running mate ???
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:29 PM
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4. What A Sell-Out
One less crooked Democrat.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:29 PM
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5. Proving once again
That he is NO democrat, Joe Lieberman licks the Republithugs boots AGAIN.

Joe, shut the hell up, for God's sake, unless you are actively trying to destroy this country, in which case you might as well join the Republican party, and live the spirit of your convictions.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:35 PM
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12. Funny you should say the part about licking his boots...
when I read this the first thought that came to mind was my visualization of Candy Crowley = on her knees kissing the ermine fur trim on Bush's robe. From the bottom, Candy Crowley on the floor up to the top where the supreme court's diamond,ruby, and platinum crown sits on his head.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:29 PM
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6. OMFG!
I am speechless :grr:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:30 PM
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7. Jeez, Lieberman doesn't quit!!
I wish he'd drown himself somewhere...

What a jackass! So much for "unity"--he's a NE version of Zell Miller....

He not only undermines Kerry, but his nonsense will be used to cloud the upcoming testimony this week.....
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:35 PM
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40. The 60 Minutes piece hasn't even aired yet
& he's already trying to undermine it's importance.

You're so right Gloria, this a really important week, & Joe seeks to ruin it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:31 PM
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9. How in the world did Al Gore and his advisors pick him...
...I trusted that they were making a good move and I was excited about his enthusiasm and impressed with his wife though I was always totally turned off by him and his enthusaism to take money. In retrospect...what the heck went wrong? Is there any book out there about this? Al...someone should ask you and you should answer - when it's appropriate to answer ithe question with all its innuendos and rationalizations.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:33 PM
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11. Two sources...
I heard last night that 60 Minutes has 2 sources to back Clarke up - one being an eyewitness so WTF is Joe talking about???

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:31 PM
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10. Again, the "Whore Joe" is on Faux bashing the Dems!
This POS needs to be ousted in 06'!


:puke:

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

:mad:
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:37 PM
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13. The Democrats need to give Joe the boot. now.
He is an Republican Patsy Ass. He has more power for the repukes by calling shots as a democrat. Why can't our party officals see through this shabby smoke and mirrors act?
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:38 PM
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14. lie-berman was not in the room with bush & clarke, others verifiy clarke
what the hell does lieberman know about private conversions in the white house?

the asshole is just plain ignorant to even mention it.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:37 PM
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41. And Paul O'Neill verified this Iraq push!
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 03:39 PM by Leilani
And O'Neill is a Republican.

Is Joe saying he's a liar also?
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:40 PM
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16. From the jerk that questioned Clark's
political orientation. I guess that's why so many of his supporters gravitated to Edwards, another Dem defender of B***-C***** connection of 9-11 to Iraq War.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:42 PM
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17. Faux News LOVES Holy Joe!!
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 12:43 PM by stopbush
It was the only network that gave him any face time as his campaign ran itself into the ground. Now, he's their latest version of Dick Morris.

I really wish he'd turn R, just so everyone could take the kid gloves off and pummel him.

You've heard of "DINOs"...you've heard of "Yellow-Dog Dems"...you've heard of "Dixiecrats"? Well, Lieberman is a "Fox News Democrat."

FUCK YOU, JOE!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:50 PM
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48. LOL!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:02 PM
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51. There see?
Faux News really is fair and balanced. They are giving equal time to Democrats. Now how could anyone possibly question their impartiality?
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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:44 PM
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18. A little more context
Sorry, but I'm watching this on Tivo and when I heard that quote from Lieberman I had to stop and transcribe it. Anyway, after Joe stopped talking like a Republican, they switched to John McCain who kept up the attack on Clarke by saying that he actually HOPED that the Bush cabal talked about not only striking Iraq, but Iran and Syria too on September 12th! Then he said that Bush was right in everything he did because he didn't go after Iraq (um, John, last I heard there were 100,000+ American troops in Iraq) and instead focused on Afghanistan.

The echo chamber was banging loudly this morning on Fox.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:58 PM
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19. McCain for VP
Yeah!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:06 PM
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20. Sometimes it seems
McCain, Edwards, Lieberman etc

think we can militarily take over the whole middle east! Its a fuckin nightmare. We'll have the draft for sure if Kerry loses.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:13 PM
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21. Hey didn't you get the memo?
McCain is great for VP? That fact that he disagrees with you and would never vote for you or your issues is irrelevant. (/sarcasm)


Sorry, the McCain for VP posts just fry my ass. Talk about dumping the base.

And Liebermann? Maybe he confused Clarke with Clark?

He agrees with and has supported this administration since the 2000 debates, why change now?

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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:19 PM
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22. Oh gee, our "friend" Joe is back
I was hoping he'd show up to endorse Kerry and then slip into the background again. But he's too lame to do even that much to help the Democrats. :mad:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:12 PM
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53. I remember tha Lieberman/Cheney debate.
It was one of the things that helped to win my vote for Nader.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:09 PM
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52. Here, here!
Let's definitely tap McCain for VP. After all, the only way the Dems could possibly win is by having a conservative Republican on the ticket to provide "balance".

Maybe Bush could lose Cheney and tap Lieberman for his running mate. Then we'll have two different neocon tickets to choose from.

At any rate, we should avoid putting Clark on the ticket. I hear that he's a Republican.:crazy:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:51 PM
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49. I hope that the folks who keep calling for McCain as VP
heard that conversation on Faux News.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:26 PM
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23. I'll probably get toasted for saying this, but
Joe seems to confuse the US national interest's and those of Israel. He seems quite happy in having the US be Israel's proxy in the mid-East.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:29 PM
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24. No flame here
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 01:31 PM by Donna Zen
However, I do agree with you. Never forget, Perle is/was a Democrat.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:00 PM
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34. No toasting or flaming
here, I think you've hit the nail on the head perfectly. I've always thought that where LIEberman is concerned.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:23 PM
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36. I agree completely...no flame!
Remember PNAC has as one of it's reasons to be, to protect Israel.

I have always thought Joe's FP is influenced by Israel.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:35 PM
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25. Bush-Lieberman 2004!
Maybe Cheney wants out. Joe Motion would love his spot.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:37 PM
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26. jopublican?
n/t
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:53 PM
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30. Scarey thought. Bush might go for it. n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:41 PM
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27. I sometimes think that money stolen from the people
goes to Republican political agendas and number 1 is support of Israel and investments in the future of the gang. That means making sure they are re-elected or are able to steal the vote. Lieberman is on their bandwagon.

Please, someone write a book - everyone talks about what Al would not have done - but, how would he have been influenced by that phoney, Joe. The critical Joe, the outspoken Joe, the pandering Joe.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:46 PM
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28. Joe Makes me sick
We should bombard his office with calls and emails.
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 01:52 PM
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29. Lieberman wasn't at the Meetings
I understand Clarke reported on high level meetings which he attended and Lieberman did not.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:57 PM
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33. Or at least as far as WE
know, maybe he actually was at the meetings? That wouldn't surprise me in the least as far as LIEberman is concerned.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:17 PM
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55. Didn't you know?
Joe possesses powers of telepathy. That's why he didn't have to actually be there to know exactly what was going on.

I think it's one of his superhero powers.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:05 PM
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31. Lieberman pretty soon will give his...
endorsements to Bush. What a prick!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:53 PM
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32. Conn. Dems.....
In two years, please get a good Democrat to run for his seat and kick him to the curb.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:12 PM
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35. Do you believe this?
Chuck Hagel was out there defending Kerry on Nat'l Security.

We have 60 minutes tonite, & Joe stabs us in the back. How the F___
does Lieberman know?

Richard Clarke was in the room...Leieberman wasn't!

Paul O'Neill has backed this up...proof!

A Dem needs to challenge Lieberman for his Senate seat in the primary.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:14 PM
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54. "A Dem needs to challenge Lieberman"
Absolutely, I would contribute money to oust him.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:19 PM
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56. Me too. n/t
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:35 PM
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38. Israel, Israel, Israel
Saddam paid families of Palestinian terrorists, therefore he's fair game. No version of reality is to be recognized in the face of this reality, and the door of reason is shut.

Quisling Joe is a fundamentalist; he's a straight-laced, pantywaist moralist with a personal agenda that drives his very action.

Remember though: even though he's in the pocket of the Accounting Industry, a major censorship nut, a religionist who wants the melding of government and religion and a pro-Israeli hawk, he IS pro-worker, pro-environment and somewhat socially conscious. Whatever. He's still a creepy little guy; think of him as Cotton Mather with short hair.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:35 PM
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39. Joe is much lower than Zell.
I hoe there's a good primary challenge in 2006.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:47 PM
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42. What an ass...
nothing but a turncoat and to think I have defended him when he has been called a DINO, guess I was wrong! :mad:
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 03:58 PM
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43. Joe's contact info
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:02 PM
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44. Another DINO sabotaging the Democratic Party.
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 04:03 PM by Zorra

Joe at a recent press conference.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:04 PM
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45. Well
He does have a good domestic agenda, but why did he have to stab us in the back?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:22 PM
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46. I'm just surprised he hasn't blamed 9/11 on Marilyn Manson yet.
He's been out of touch with the Democratic Party for years, but what the Zell is he thinking saying the "facts" support Bush and not Clarke? This is the second to last nail in LIEberman's coffin, the final one coming when he endorses Bush. What a DINOsaur.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:45 PM
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47. Wow. I was wrong about Lieberman. He's WORSE than what I thought.
I don't think he's going to get reelected in a couple of years. He'll lose his primary election, the people of Connecticut will see to that. Unfortunately, we're stuck with him until then.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:54 PM
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50. Good old Joe
Defending poor dubya against unfair attacks again. After all, what would someone like Richard Clarke know about these arcane affairs. I'm sure that Joe had much greater access to the inside track.:eyes:

It's nice to know that if Kerry and the Democrats get too rough on dubya, that Joe will be there to defend him and to appropriately chastise the Dems.

I hate to say it, but if he had gotten the nomination, I would not have voted for him and would have gone 3rd party. I just thank God and the voters that that didn't happen.

I still can't believe that Gore picked him as a running mate. :shrug:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:26 PM
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57. And to think...
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 05:44 PM by fujiyama
I've defended him hear so many times.

It seems as though he's trying to derail Kerry's campaign. When's his reelection? I think democrats all over will be willing to toss him out and will contribute to get rid of him in the primaries. Connecticut is definetely not a RW state. From a state like that we should atleast have someone as liberal as Chris Dodd (who is a better sen than Lieberman).

On Edit: I was just thinking is he a bit jealous how badly he lost? He seems to showing what a smarmy vindictive bastard he is. I've also noticed that Kerry hasn't thought much of Lieberman. He hasn't gone to meet him the way he has with Clark, Edwards, Gephardt, and Dean. Lieberman also hasn't endorsed him. Wow, makes me all the more angry considering his history of stabbing other party members in the back (Gore in '00 with the military ballots and the debate with Cheney).
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:28 PM
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58. 2006 (nt)
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:36 PM
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59. That's long...
but not too long. I suppose we can survive another two years, but then again I am a bit worried about the damage he could cause for Kerry's campaign. I now see that he really doesn't care if we win or lose this election, just as he didn't seem to in '00.

A KErry win or loss, we have to send Lieberman packing. I hope Conn. dems can find another good opponent.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 06:35 PM
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60. God, I hate that son of a bitch!
And I say that as a Connecticut Yankee.

FUCK YOU, LIEBERMAN!!! :grr:
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