Which are the most solidly blue and red states, in your opinion?

[drumwolf]

In your view, which states are pretty much guaranteed to swing to one candidate or the other? By that I mean, to the point where Bush or Kerry should essentially concede that state to his opponent, and where it would effectively be safe to vote for Nader without hurting Kerry?

[mstrsplinter326]

1. Indiana

[dakota_democrat]

2. NONE!!!

"A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush!!!"

REMEMBER THAT!!!

We can't afford any ABB voting, it has to be for John Kerry...although I think you could safely vote for Nader in Massachusetts...Nader beat Bush there in 2000.

[LividLiberal]

3. I'm sure that is well mapped out somewhere, perhaps there is a website

that has this all laid out?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

4. Not exactly but

this one is a good start:
http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/

[LividLiberal]

5. It's a bit unwieldy

[kaitykaity]

6. Here's a link to the 2000 electoral map.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/map.htm

Here's a map of the swing states:
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=578

[LividLiberal]

12. Oooo, those are good, thanks!

[elperromagico]

7. Here's one:

http://www.cookpolitical.com/races/report_pdfs/2004_electoral_college_march.pdf

Solid Dem:
DC
Connecticut
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island

Likely Dem:
California
Delaware
Illinois
Vermont

Lean Dem:
Maine
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Washington

(more)

[drumwolf]

8. That's awesome! Thanks for the link!

Of course, if other people want to throw their two cents in or disagree with the contents of that, they should still pipe up anyway..... :)

I voted for Nader in 1996 and 2000, but I'm voting for Kerry this year. I loathe * so much that even if I lived in a solidly red state, I would vote for Kerry for no other reason than to make a statement with my vote that I want Bush out. :puke:

[elperromagico]

9. There were only eight states in 2000

where Nader's percentage of the vote exceeded either Bush or
Gore's margin of victory:

State          Nader %         Margin of Victory
Florida        1.63%           0.01%*
New Mexico     3.55%           0.06%
Wisconsin      3.62%           0.22%
Iowa           2.23%           0.31%
Oregon         5.04%           0.44%
New Hampshire  3.9%            1.27%
Minnesota      5.2%            2.4%
Maine          5.7%            5.12%

It could be argued, therefore, that it was "safe" to
vote for Nader in 42 states... well, 39 (Nader wasn't on the
ballot in three states).

* = Well, I think you all know why there's an asterisk there.

[arcos]

10. VT, CT, ME, RI, MA, CA - TX, ID, WY, UT

I think those can be written off by Kerry or Bush, there's probably no way they could swing...

[elperromagico]

11. Add KS, ND, SD, IN to the Republican side,

though Kerry's doing better than most Democrats have in the past in Indiana.

[Leilani]

13. Add Montana

Georgia, Alabama, & Mississippi to the repugs.

[carpetbagger]

14. Why feed the monster?

It just gets bigger.

[fujiyama]

15. People have to vote...

as though dems have no safe states.

Nader simply is NOT an option this time.