URGENT! DNC FLASH AD SUCKS! WE WILL LOSE if this isn't fixed immediately!!

[AngryYoungMan]

First go to the DNC website and watch the pure shit they've got up as a Flash ad:

http://www.democrats.org/deficit/flash.html

Then go over to Daily KOS to read the outraged postings by Democrats:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/3/20/03712/0547

In a week in which Kerry has stumbled, Bush has closed the gap in the polls and the New York Times has reported on Rove's "90-day attack strategy," how can Terry McAliffe and the DNC be doing crap like this? THIS is how they're spending our money?

Everyone should email/post to let them know how pissed we are. If you don't believe me, go look at the ad.

[Zynx]

1. Worst. Flash-Ad. Ever.

[otohara]

2. Horrible - The Worst -

Man I watched it lastnight and was horrified at just how awful it was.

[russian33]

3. wow....

...that is pretty bad...college kids can put together a flash presentation better than that...they should hire takebackthemedia.com to do their flash ads...

[Nazgul35]

4. Are you really that surprised?

this is the same group that has been running things since 2000....how's their track record?

Just love how they're using my money....

[DS1]

5. It does suck, but I don't think it's going to single-handedly derail the

election.

[AngryYoungMan]

8. But it certainly looks like a harbinger of doom.

Anyone who does this isn't suddenly going to morph into an effective propaganda machine.

[loftycity]

6. The Worst, appalling What are they doing? Get Eric Blumrich..fast!

[diamondsoul]

43. Heh! Nope!

Blumrich is on Kucinich's tech team. Maybe after Boston.:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

7. Contact info of ad agency who produced the ad

The Chameleon Group
430 West 34th Street Suite 17D
New York City, NY 10001
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]
[e-mail]

Animator:
http://www.tekne.net/

Granted, they probably got paid shit to do the ad. Probably pro bonum... get that pot-smokin' freelancer Sid to do it and we'll write it off...

[AngryYoungMan]

9. Read in KOS...the address and phone number don't match.

Who are these clowns? Help! Help!

[otohara]

10. Thanks, Good Idea

no marketing company likes to hear negative comments from "focus groups"

[zulchzulu]

11. Ok people... you do a version. Let's see what you got.

When I read this:
"My worry (and my reason for supporting Dean) was that Kerry and the party would run a 2000-quality campaign again, and it looks like my worst fears are coming true. "

I almost puked. What a bunch of lamer shit that is. I bet the guy is a killer Swish artist. :puke:

Sounds like all the "beautiful people" who were envious of the talented art director at the dot bomb I worked at in SF before it was driven into the ground.

Yeah, it could be better. Scarier maybe... I dunno.

[AngryYoungMan]

12. What are you talking about? Have you even seen the MoveOn.org ads?

Far better stuff has been carpeting the internet for more than a year. Wake up

[zulchzulu]

13. Do you do Flash?

Bring it on. Seriously...

[AngryYoungMan]

17. As a matter of fact I do. But why are you being contentious?

There are hundreds of better Flash ads already on the web. I guess you weren't listening to my last post.

[zulchzulu]

19. I do Flash stuff...It wasn't bad...it won't make a Democrat turn GOP

This is funny, but much ado about nothing.

Tell me where you thought it sucked. Let's start there.

[AngryYoungMan]

24. If you thought that "wasn't bad," you know nothing about political ads.

I'm sorry but there it is. Did you not even notice the person with the African-American arm and the Caucasian face?

[zulchzulu]

34. OK. You win. I know nothing.

I'll put my Emmy away. You said so.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. I thought it was rather pedestrain and boring and I am a Kerry

supporter. It is a wasted opportunity and is high on corn and low on octane.

[R3dD0g]

46. Where I thought it sucked

Begin with the image of *. It bears no resemblance to the PoS.

Next, *'s hand is pounding the podium like a hummingbirds wings. Slow that down.

And the message is garbled. It begins with exploding deficits and ends with a litany of things * has cut. What do we want? Deficit reduction or program expansion. Those two ideas shouldn't be mixed in the same ad.

I'm saying this as a programmer, absolutely no knowledge of the ad biz, but this thing sucks.

[loftycity]

14. Maybe.... it was done by ...Karl Rove?? That would be the best guess?

[slinkerwink]

15. my god. that is one horrible ad!

[loftycity]

16. Go to this site this is what the DNC should be using.

http://www.ericblumrich.com/animation.html

[zulchzulu]

18. 850k Flash animations suck, dude...go here instead

Sorry. The art of doing Flash for everybody means making the file less than 100k.

Go here:

http://www.rathergood.com/biscuits/

or

http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/

Ah. Now that's more like it.

[NV1962]

36. I'm afraid the GOP already has countered

They have a highly effective Flash ad here.

Fortunately, the DNC countered with this counter-counter-attack!

[Auntie Bush]

33. Eric's was the best one of those mentioned and

it started loading the fastest...had something to watch. I have a dial-up connection and it took the others forever to load...had to wait and wait...nothing! :shrug:

The ad was a joke! I thought everyone was just being too critical...they weren't! Not a single POP about the fact that it was the tax cuts that drove the deficit up. Dumb!

[Lorne]

20. It was bad.

But then so was the RNC one.

The DNC one lacked creativity. I hope they do a better job on the next one.

[rumguy]

21. the folks at TBTM should be doing some ads for them..nt

[zulchzulu]

22. What's their budget?

I personally know that political sites have shit for money to spend on projects.

Yeah, we could get Chiat/Day...and spend $50,000 for a freakin' matchbook cover.

[VolcanoJen]

23. Saw it last night; found it pathetic.

:(

[leyton]

25. The ad contradicts itself...

It starts by complaining about the deficit.

Then it talks about cutting spending.

It seems to me that cutting spending would reduce the deficit. I know these aren't the programs that should be cut, but the logic in the ad doesn't follow. If the debt is ballooning, then Bush isn't reining in spending enough.

Why not focus on the tax cuts instead?

[Guaranteed]

26. Yeah, that's what I noticed

Let's find something consistent to complain about, eh, uhhh...Clinton? Yeah, thanks. Moron.

[flaminbats]

28. exactly!

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, for every tax-cut another soldier loses this much pay, for every dollar lost for tax-cuts a terrorist gains another victim, for every Bush tax-cut our children will suffer an even more painful tax increase..

[Roark]

42. You are right

The ad does contradict itself.

Both the defecit and the reckless spending cuts are issues that need to be addressed. However, doing them both at the same time wasn't a good idea.

People who want lower defecits want cuts in spending or decreases in taxes - usually at the expense of quality of services.

People who want higher government involvement want higher quality of services - usually at the expense of a higher defecit or higher taxes.

Putting both messages together appeals to no one and makes it look like the DNC does not even get basic economics.

Not a good sign and not a good ad.

[KerryEdwards]

27. Can u imagine Freepers trashing the RNC???!!!!

Give thema break. It's fine. It's just a stupid flash animation, it's not even a web ad. Chill. The Macker has $25 mil in da' bank and no debt. Do you know that when Clinton was elected the DNC only had debt and no real cash on hand. The Macker has changed all that. This is the first election ever where the DNC starts in da' black.

[Desertrose]

29. check out this one....

http://kucinich.us/dk2.html
or
http://www.kucinich.us/dp.htm


That DNC one is really lame...sorry but it stinks...


Dennis ROCKS!

Peace
DR

[gristy]

30. This is a job for...

Symbolman

http://www.takebackthemedia.com
I will email him.

[vetwife]

31. I agree..or Eric Blumrich

In a word..this ad....Tacky !

[symbolman]

37. Chuckle

Yeah, I agree, the ad sucks, the DNC are like a bunch of old ladies - hell, I've seen braver and smarter old ladies..

We've got tons of flash that we'd love to get some MONEY for.. and we've been doing them for free basically for a long time,

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/flash.html

glad to hear someone kicking Take Back the Media (and calling all symbolmen :) ) to the fore - very flattering!

thanks,

we're on hiatus of sorts right now but I've got a couple of ideas and some music I'm working with..

it's time to show the DNC how to do it right.

[fujiyama]

32. Fact: This ad sucks...

:wtf:

Fact: The ad put me to :boring:

[napi21]

38. It's just an ad against the "fact" GOP ad against Kerry's voting ad.

I'm just a regular person and I don't look at this ad as so bad. It's not GREAT, but it's a flash ad for goodness sake. It's only people like you and I who are going to see it.

The thing that is more worrysome is that the GOP web site is so much better than ours. Lots of links on how and where to donate too.

[AntiCoup2K4]

39. The DLC plan to throw the game is proceeding right on schedule

don't say you weren't warned :grr:

[welshTerrier2]

40. i had hoped DU was wrong about the ad

but i just viewed it ... sadly, i have to agree ... the ad stinks ...

rove builds a campaign calling Kerry a flip-flopper so the DNC goes out and hires a company called the "Chameleon Group" to do the ad for them ... not a good move ... the company describes themselves like this "Like the creatures that change color to fit their environments" ...

the scene where the balloon filled with hot air explodes and the adults who were protesting bush's deficits start crying is beyond horrible ... is that what democrats do when they don't like what the administration does ... we cry ?? why not show democrats taking action to stop the bankrupting of our government ?? why not show that democrats have listened to the American people and understand their priorities ??? but no, we are ineffective whiners ... all we do is carry protest signs and cry when things don't go our way ... that's some great vision of the democratic party the DNC is peddling !!

lose this ad immediately !! make it disappear !!! hire a few DU'ers ... if this ad reflects the quality of people at the top of the DNC, let's just give up now ...

[KoKo]

41. This is disgusting! Crap work, a turn off!!

What the hell is going on! :crazy:

[Kitsune]

44. Happy Tree Friends looks more professional than that.

And that just makes me want to cry.

[dsewell]

45. Have they responded to ANYONE?

The damn thing is still there nearly a week later. Here's the message I just sent to the DNC.

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Dear DNC website administrators:

I am baffled as to why the "$5.2 trillion deficit" Flash animation is still linked from the front page of www.dnc.org. You've been roundly criticized for its amateurish quality, at a time when the Republicans are finally learning to use Internet resources effectively.

I recently donated $20 to the DNC, but it's going to be my last donation until I see concrete evidence that you guys are listening to your constituents. I'm going to be working hard for Kerry and my local Democratic congressional candidate, but at the moment unafilliated organizations like MoveOn.org and Dean's new DemocracyforAmerica.com are doing a better job of getting the message out.