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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:02 PM
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LOL - Change you can xerox!
What a great way to say Obama is a complete fake. BEST. LINE. OF. THE. DEBATE.

Next best line, "if you're candidancy going to be based on words, they should at least be your own words."

Go Hill!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:04 PM
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1. Except the audience booed her - people are sick of the nastiness. nt
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:04 PM
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3. Agreed.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:06 PM
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7. Yup
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:05 PM
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4. Obama supporters booed her...rude n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 PM
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9. Her comment was rude, so the booing was appropriate. nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:08 PM
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14. boooing is never appropriate n/t
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:10 PM
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16. And while some booed, -- NO ONE CHEERED
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:11 PM
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17. It worked perfectly to change her tack - high time the people...
...set the tone. Well done.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:51 AM
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35. How could you tell?
How do you know they weren't undecided?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:03 PM
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58. exactly
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:26 PM
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83. And the line was obviously "written for her"
I wonder how much Mrs. Clinton's campaign over-paid the consultant for that gem?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:40 PM
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76. That's "nastiness"? What are we, Casper Milquetoasts?
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 04:42 PM by WinkyDink
That didn't even rise to the level of "Your mother wears Army boots."
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:04 PM
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2. Go Hillary!
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gerrilea Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:05 PM
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5. Go Hillary Go, Go Baby Go!!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:05 PM
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6. It Takes a Village to plagiarize an entire book called It Takes a Village.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:06 PM
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8. You think that went over well? She looked stupid
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 PM
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10. What a great line -- wonderful!!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 PM
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11. Yeah "best line" drowned out by the boos of the crowd. People are sick of her silliness.
She looks worse and worse every time she stays on this same tired track of political bullshit as usual.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:04 AM
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41. Boy they sure did. The crowd HATED that.
Obama loved it though. He didn't have to do anything while Hillary got off another round into her own foot.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 PM
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12. it was a mistake and she knew it immediately
the boos probably tipped her off. She moved on right away to a much more effective and heartfelt line of attack.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:46 PM
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26. At the time of the booing both candidates were speaking. He brought it up and chalenged her
she had to respond.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:23 PM
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78. It's pretty clear to impartial observers that they were booing at her.
She deserved to be challenged, because it's a bullshit line of attack.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:08 PM
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13. Hillary got booed..... that's a killer.....
....She came off petty and the crowd actually BOOED her.


Cheer that line all you want, Clintonistas.... it hurt her badly.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:09 PM
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15. Regardless Of The Boos, That Was One Of The Sharpest, Best Lines In A Debate I've Ever Heard, Period
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:19 PM
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68. which speech writer dreamed that up?
I know she didn't plagiarize it, so who wrote it for her?

It went over like a lead balloon, and you could tell she knew it by the
look on her face.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:46 PM
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73. Yeah, too bad the audience didn't go for it the way you did.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:24 PM
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79. She should repeat it over and over, as many times as possible.
She'll lose every remaining state in a landslide.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:12 PM
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18. Petty shite. No one uses their own words. Why can't you use anyone's words if they are
applicable. Petty schite.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:13 PM
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19. There's not many folks left that accept this type of garbage.
The boos say it all.
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:26 PM
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20. It was a tintype moment.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:28 PM
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21. ...
:spray: :evilgrin:
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:41 PM
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22. Good one!
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:43 PM
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23. "I am honored to be here w/ Barack Obama" HRC, is a class act.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:43 PM
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24. The red line dropped like a rock on that comment. That line did her more damage
than any other mistake of the evening.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:44 PM
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25. "I am honotred to be here w/ Barack Obama" HRC is a class act.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:59 PM
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27. Uh, doesn't seem to have gone over all that well.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:00 AM
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28. Enjoy that line while you can.
It will hurt her in the long run.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:01 AM
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29. and then she closed the debate with comments she xeroxed from her husband and Edwards. n/t
n/t
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:04 AM
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30. Best line if you are an Obama supporter... That line sealed the deal for Obama.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:05 AM
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31. Yeah, John Chancellor, Frank Reynolds and Walter Cronkite will be all over that one.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:13 AM
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32. It was a great line!
:P
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:47 AM
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33. Only in Hillaryworld - every pundit called it a "Clinker" to
use Tweety's term.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:46 AM
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44. Pundits are morons.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:25 PM
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72. Nope anyone who thought that was a great line is a Hillarybot
Wonder how many millions she paid her consultants for that one - if I was her I'd demand a refund.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:47 PM
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74. Yep, they are all wrong, every last one. /nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:51 AM
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34. yeah brilliant except for the fact that
she is using a unattributed scripted line to criticize Obama for using a previously attributed (gonna steal a line from my friend)line from a speech writer.

everybody saw threw it.

you didn't really think that she just thought that up right then now did you.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:54 AM
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36. Best line because it may have ended her campaign, I will give you that
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 AM
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37. it bit her in the ass, and that comment about Tx state senator
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 12:58 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted
ouch. I am not a Hillary fan, but it is always painful to see that.

Kinda like her mentioning Tweety abusing that state senator from Texas.
Any thought as to how that will play with Texas voters?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:08 PM
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61. Not just a state senator.
The state senator from Austin.

Where the debate was held.

Who probably most of the audience voted for.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:00 AM
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38. I guess it's Silly Season here at DU.
:eyes:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:02 AM
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39. Hillary sure blew it
she came off as really nasty after Obama took the high road. Probably finished herself off for good with that one.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:03 AM
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40. While she wound up xeroxing her own hubbies words at the end!
HAHAAHA..priceless.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:49 AM
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45. Apparently they both are very familiar with Xerox!
:P

Copycatting all the way on both sides!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:04 AM
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42. That line went over like a lead balloon.
Though she finished very strongly, Hillary did not do what she needed to do in the debate.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:11 AM
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43. Must have hired Sinbad for that one.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:38 PM
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46. That phrase had the very poor timing of the poorly contrived and poorly executed. nt
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:45 PM
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47. Great line....for Obama!
Seriously, that went over like a lead balloon for Sen. Clinton. What's even worse for Clinton is that Obama hit it out of the park in his response, making her look even more petty than the comment itself did.

I want Obama to win, but sometimes I feel bad for Clinton. She and her campaign have made some costly mistakes.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:10 PM
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62. You're getting it backwards
The "silly season" comment was said BEFORE her line.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:46 PM
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48. No. It. Was. Not. The. Best. Line. Of. The. Debate. Comma. It. Went. Over. Like. A. Lead. Balloon.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:46 PM
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49. It was right on and I loved it!
Obamamatrons in the audience clearly did not agree! :D
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:54 PM
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53. PLEASE write to her and tell her to keep using it then!
:hi:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:48 PM
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50. The line will live on in political history.
I'll admit one thing, this won't be the last time we'll hear this line. It will go down in history as one of the most politically tone deaf, worst timed, worst positioned, nonsensical and unhelpful lines in political history. We'll hear how candidates need to avoid the "xerox" moment in debates from now until the end of most our lifetimes. They'll write books about it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:53 PM
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51. I started a thread today calling it the same thing you did-
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 02:53 PM by jenmito
"Tone deaf." I can't believe some of her supporters not only think it was a great line but the "Best. Line. Of. The. Debate." They are as tone deaf as SHE is. But I'm sure her advisers, unlike her supporters, realize it was a BAD move, and it won't be said again.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:15 PM
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66. Hey! Maybe that's where I got that in my head.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:16 PM by cottonseed
Sorry for plagiarizing you. :) As far as the line goes, yes, it's a stinker. I think the thing should be taught in political science courses. It was just uncanny how badly it was delivered, the timing, and the fact that it wasn't even her own "words"! It was incredible. And then, you've got the supporters convinced it was the best line of the night -- it's definitely ripe for discussion.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:22 PM
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71. No problem...
Feel free to "plagiarize" me any time. I now consider you my DU buddy and I have no problem with you Xeroxing my words. :D

Yup, I can't believe how some people think it was just the greatest thing since sliced bread! Now I understand how 25% of people still think Bush is doing a good job. There's no accounting for taste. :shrug:
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:02 PM
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57. Yep. That's a campaign sinker. Along the lines of "Who am I and why am I here?"
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:03 PM by alphafemale
Thud.

Amazing that the Hill supporters think it was a great line.

Wow.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 PM
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67. Ha! That's the line I was looking for.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 PM by cottonseed
I was wracking my brain for that one earlier today, but just couldn't get it. Thanks! It would be funny if someone put a video together of the debate, with a laugh track, and then silence at the xerox line. They could post it on "the YouTube".
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:20 PM
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70. Okay, yesterday there was a thread floating around for "the worst thing ever said in a debate."
"Who am I and why am I here?" is the winner. Hands down.

Admiral Stockdale.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Jbmaq4YHA
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:54 PM
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52. Listening to it on Air America this a.m., it only sounded "bitchy" to me -n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:55 PM
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54. Wow, as I suspected, you are completely out of touch with reality.
She was loudly BOOED for that line and nobody in her campaign is willing to accept credit for it.

It was described by Rachel Maddow as "stupid".

And yet you loved it. Why? Because it was nasty?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:56 PM
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55. And her plagiarizing both Edwards and BC is what exactly? YOUR HYPOCRISY.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:58 PM
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56. LOL? You mean BOL? Because that sure was a lot of booing out loud.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:05 PM
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59. Shrill and bitchy
n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:29 PM
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84. self-hating misogynist.
pawn of the patriarchal oppressor!
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:06 PM
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60. delete
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:17 PM by greguganus
wrong post.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:11 PM
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63. Xerox stock dropped today after opening bell. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:11 PM
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64. You, Hillary, Penn, Wolfson, and about three others think that was a good line...
Good luck with that.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:19 PM
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69. The next great political mystery: who wrote it?
That's what I want to find out!
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doyourealize1 Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:14 PM
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65. take it with grace...don't sink to the level of the Obama cheerleaders
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:49 PM
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75. Amazing how out of touch some people are
Hillary was pandering to the Hillary DU crowd with that one. Too bad the majority of Americans are repulsed by those kinds of silly attacks.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:21 PM
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77. O_o
:spray:

Pass me whatever it is you're smoking!

:hippie: :smoke:
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:24 PM
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80. Someones been drinking those colorful drinks under the kitchen sink again
It seems. Tsk Tsk
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:25 PM
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82. ROFL. You win this thread.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:24 PM
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81. She will be remembered forever for that line.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 05:25 PM by BuyingThyme
It is her legacy.

She is forever an idiot and so is anybody who decided to pretend that the word plagiarism was applicable to the circumstance.

Nice goin' Hillbots. You will be remembered for your dishonesty.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:32 PM
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85. Now I hope she wins, just to keep her from a career in standup if nothing else.
Because that was as funny as a fire at an orphanage. Seriously, if this is funny to anyone then comedy isn't their strong suit.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:03 PM
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86. erm, except she used Edwards words... and Bills words...
:shrug:
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