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Clinton Crusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:09 PM Original message |
The Obama Delusion By Robert Samuelson |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. As soon as he had proclaimed "as a journalist..." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. That's pretty lame... |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Do you call THAT journalism? |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. His opinion? He seems to base most of this on fact, he's stating the facts about Obama's invisible |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. It's all based on half-truths, not facts. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. you've missed the point |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I saw that part. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. interesting post... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Well, how do you think Bush got his war? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. those were very broad based movements |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. the point is that major change |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I freely admit to "not getting it" |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. you may already be involved |
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rcsl1998 (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. "Visionary" |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. The only thing that could have stopped Bush... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. who said "hope" would have stopped it? |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. The critical bit |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. So if they are both the same, I will take the one that makes me... |
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Sadie5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. Do you call BO presidential material? |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. I'm a little confused, slow down and speak into my good ear. What does "over 49K hits, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. 49k google hits... |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Who else would you expect to write an article... |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. When you can't counter the message...kill the messenger |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. He's an award winning journalist actually |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
88. Are you unfamiliar with Robert Samuelson? |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. TY |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good article |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. This Obama thing will have to play itself out I guess. He'll either |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
86. How incredibly careless. Our counriy is going down the |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Samuelson has written crap before too n/t |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. dude has switched flavors of his kool-aid... |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is horrible writing. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. That is a very good review of this |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Thanks! |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. So true. The Hillbots won't read your post, though. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. And the Obamatologists won't read the article. n/t |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. touche |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
45. "Hillbots" how childish. Grow up. nm |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Now you're sounding like the hack that you all so desperately protest. He lays out the facts for you |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I didn't see facts |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. I read this earlier |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Delusional Repubs have worshiped Reagan and Bush despite their flaws |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is the same hypercautious hack who warned against getting carried away with "Global Warming" |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Good supporter of Hill's, then! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. I wasn't making a Hillary slam -- just noting that Samuelson is terrified of anything non-mainstream |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. But, but, but ...according to Brit Hume |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. "Real Clear Politics" is a red flag for RW journalism |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. I fell to see your logic in posting this article as a slight toward Obama |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. too bad this "journalist" |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. Well Samuelson has nothing to contribute... |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. Thanks. n/t |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. I fear that the author of the piece is correct. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. obama reminds me more of reagan than bush |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I am not impressed either. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is also online at Newsweek... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
27. I just feel he "shouts at me" ...sounding like "T.J." whose the Anchor on CNN.. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. pretty much sums up my qualms about obamania |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. truth is under attack in this country ... |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
31. Thanks. We'll see what happens. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. Samuelson is a notorious RNC hack. OTOH, so is Obama. |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thank you... "his biography is his platform" --Bill Moyers |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
44. The reason for the large turn-outs for Obama is that we also view Sen Clinton |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. Robert J. Samuelson- a global warming Naysayer, |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. Nice Company She Keeps (nt) |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. So he's right about some things and wrong about others. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. He is a neo-liberal hack |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
49. Great article. I agree with him. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
50. I detest the stupid slogans |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
51. Wow! How desperate. That's about as valuable as Inhofe's opinion. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
52. Well, that's Bob's take on it. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
53. To this guy I say... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
54. The Obama campaign is all about how great the Obama campaign is. |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
55. Obama is not a panacea |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
56. well that does it, i'm switching to hillary! |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
57. This we already knew: Obama is mostly a creation of his own hot air. |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. Like I'd give any credence to Samuelson... |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
83. Very well put! |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
84. "Anyone about to step into the steaming pile ... |
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CadenBlaker (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. Really? |
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tripitaka (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. "known quantities" are being rejected. where's the mystery? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. delusion? Keep On Diggin'.... Duh |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
68. One problem--you're too late. Obama's only one big state away from wrapping this up. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
69. i like obama, but it wont surprise me if he turns out to be a scumbag |
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davhill (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
70. They are both Democrats |
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Bleacher Creature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. Samuelson should go back to trying to privatize Social Security. |
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miceelf (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. Robert Samuelson? |
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79. Injustices like slavery and mysogyny were perpetuated by |
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