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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:13 PM Original message |
The death throes of the Clinton campaign |
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libertee (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. the momentum train is slowing on it's own. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. haha.... 15 point win in a state tailor-made for Hillary... sure. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Actually, its a 17 point win n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Yeah, but will it stop before the end of the tracks? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Maybe it's time to look up the meaning of "slowing" in the dictionary |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yep.... K & R |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Clinton supporters need to tell their candidate to cut the shit |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They won't |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. EXACTLY. |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Your're right |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well said ! |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. The money will dry up first and the campaign will die shortly thereafter |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Just to pile on |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The Clinton's have money, power, and influence... |
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adabfree (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Just reported on MSNBC Obama actually raised 36 Mil in January...not 32 |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Just...........WOW! |
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adabfree (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. March... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. That has to be a record. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. maybe dictators who Bill is friendly with, or Republicans who fear Obama in the general |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. Election markets.... Obama skyrockets, Hillary Plummets..... |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. what a horribly run campaign. I'm betting that the neg. attacks WILL stop. |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. She has no choice... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
50. It is her position on Iraq. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. It won't get that far - the superdelegates will give her a reality check. |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That is the only chance... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. They will. She could have a brillant career in the Senate, if |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. Right. |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Okay...whatever you wish to believe |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. LOL She is 1-2 states away from HAVING to quit. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. In her speach tonight, she said "Some of you have lost a job and are unemployed..." |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. She was talking about her campaign staff.... in a month from now.. |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. She's just pandering, and I'm embarrassed for her at this point. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. I agree 100%. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. God bless HRC, she needs it, when we sell our integrity we sell our soul. k&r |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
31. ...and they will destroy the party... |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
32. Her biggest problem: if she goes negative, she only affirms her own negative narrative |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. K&R for the audacity of hope. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. I really hope she does not "double down" on the negativity like some in her campaign want |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You mean, like if some study group told you to leave Iraq and instead |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
35. If she wants to keep her Senate seat and preserve Bill's legacy |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. True and like any wounded |
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IamyourTVandIownyou (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
40. Out with the old. In with the new. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
41. " they will destroy the party if they have to" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:50 AM Original message |
She's only behind in the delegate count by about 20-30 delegates. TX, OH, PA and NC are the only |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. She's only behind in the delegate count by about 20-30 delegates. TX, OH, PA and NC are the only |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No, she's behind in total delegate count, right now, by about 60 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Soft pledged and unpledged,with FL/MI sanctioned, she's behind by 39 |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Those numbers are out of line with everything else I've seen. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Disclaimer (ie, nobody's totals are 100% accurate at this point, but these are pretty close) |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
47. Hillary is DONE! |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. I love these Obama posts. They read like the dialogue in a bad comic book. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. In other words, you have no facts with which to rebut the premise. (NT) |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
49. Were you in the GOP during the Clinton presidency? |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Familiar, but true |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
51. The Clintons... |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
53. Like a Wounded Badger? |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
54. Why should she quit while there's still a chance of the win? |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Actually I think you are right... |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You are correct with your math. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. no actually |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. The chance to win is very near zero |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Who can tell? I lived in Texas for four years - It's a pretty funny place. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. 55% isn't going to do it for her |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
60. This is the primary season, She is a Democratic Candidate and to claim that |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. Cool - that will make a primary challenge for her Senate seat that much easier. |
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