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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:08 PM
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Hillary's white base absolutely deteriorating
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM by NJSecularist
According to CNN exit polls, Obama absolutely took a bite out of Hillary's base today. It's striking.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#WIDEM

Look at these splits.

White 18-29: Obama: 69, Hillary: 22
White 30-44: Obama 63, Clinton:37
White 45-59: Obama 52, Hillary 47
White 60+: Hillary 57, Obama 43

He's taking Hillary's base right from under her feet and there is nothing she can do about it.



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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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1. the problem is though, not enough young people vote.
If you wanted to be leading it any age group it would be 60+, but yes it looks like shes in big trouble.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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2. Let's hear it for old, white women!!! She still has them, by golly!!
:bounce:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:13 PM
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12. omg... I just fell outta my chair
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:17 PM
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16. INCOMING!!!
:hide:

You're probably gonna pay for that!:rofl:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:25 PM
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24. Hillary has the Bluehead vote all wrapped up!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:09 PM
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3. she's down to white women more than anything else
what happens when they realise that they are being taken advantage of? How long before the switch over to Obama as well?
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:10 PM
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4. or mccain
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:12 PM
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8. Did ya see Russert go through the exit polls
Claimed her "coalition" consist of "white women, over 60, who make less than $50,000 a year.

yikes!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:38 PM
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31. You buy what Russert has to say?
Goodness.......he's been a media whore since day one.
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:05 PM
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36. Well, he along with the other media whores
have the same data. There was even the exit poll post here earlier with the actual numbers.
Not saying these people don't spin stuff to their liking, but it's pretty obvious there has been a complete erosion in the Hillary vote.
Back when Edwards was in he and Hillary split the blue collar folks. Then they shifted to Hillary.
Now it looks like they are shifting to Obama and the only core base of voters the Clinton campaign can depend on are, just like the talking heads said: "white women, over 60, making less than $50,000"

No disrespect to them, but that's getting down to a pretty small base.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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5. Down to white women over 50 who make less than 50K a year
pretty narrow base
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:37 PM
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30. Shit, REALLY?
Sad that not too many old, irrelevant old bats don't have cash to spare. Hmmm, wouldn't be because of all the taxes they pay and all those ungrateful kids they are putting through college, eh? :sarcasm:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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6. That looks like a big win!
:bounce:
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:12 PM
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7. wow, she's now relying on old women.
what as this campaign come to?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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21. Wow, another newbie......
been following the campaign LONG, have we?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:26 PM
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27. welcome, newbie!
Ignore the bitter old-timer posters who are sure to follow you around until you have 1000+ postings.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:31 PM
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28. Awh, not a popularity contest, toots. Maybe learn to read people better?
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:33 PM by Darth_Kitten
Some people CAN be pitied. But then again, I'm just ((cough)) old and bitter and I don't get all you hip, happening little kiddies.

Next.......
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:12 PM
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:13 PM
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10. What you have failed to factor into this is the simple fact that people under 60
don't count
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:13 PM
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11. LOL
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:18 PM
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18. What was funny?
Doesn't take much, eh?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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13. Oh, hellit ! I always forget something. Daamn.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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14. Maybe Hillary's Not White Enough?
:rofl:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:15 PM
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15. Russert: The only piece remaining of Clinton's coalition is aging white women.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:15 PM by Kristi1696
Perhaps overly harsh. But true.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:17 PM
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17. Guess again......
too bad Obama's base don't bother to vote. :rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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20. They've voted in 33 primaries and caucuses so far!

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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22. I'm sorry?
Obama is the projected winner. So if his base doesn't bother to vote, then I guess that Hillary's base must be voting for him?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:53 PM
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32. "Don't bother to vote?" Huh???? Obama is WINNING!!! Oops my bad. Hillary's base
is voting for him. Bwa ha ha ha! :rofl:
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:19 PM
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19. Don't laugh. White women live longer than all of us. nt
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:26 PM
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26. Um? LOL
you're crazy.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:35 PM
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29. Why does that BOTHER you so, dear?
I wouldn't slam the older gals, they've lived and KNOW.

They don't fall for everything.....
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:54 PM
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33. Good. They can vote for her the next time she runs too. And..
She still won't win.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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23. RACISM...Prevails.......
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:25 PM
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25. Well the media insists of describing this race in terms of race nt
:shrug:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 PM
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34. Hillary encouraged it. In NH she went after the white, female vote.
Then she went after the latino vote. You don't think that people have noticed that Billary are content to play "identity" politics? It's sickening. People are sick of that.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:03 PM
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35. the press keeps talking about Obama showing he can expand his base, what about HRC?
The only part of her base she has left are white women over fifty. She does disastrously with male voters, independents, African Americans and younger voters. She is now losing her grip on union voters, blue collar voters and even latinos. The question is when will HRC expand her base?
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