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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:34 AM Original message |
Democrats may regret emphasizing the "creepy" memes about Obama |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Will the Obamaniacs regret their allegations of racism against the Clintons |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Probably |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. don't be silly |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Defeat Has Already Been Snatched from the Jaws of Victory |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. well for whatever it's worth |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. McCain Could Have Coat-Tails |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. They are trying to destroy him. |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. "The cult of Obama" is applicable. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Please explain why it is more "cultlike" than any otehr campaign? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. It's not |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama is just another Axlerod "hope & change" franchise holder. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That may be true |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. So much for "transformative". The whole thing is a cheap campaign strategy. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. No it's a successful campaign strategy |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. It's the worst kind of "I'll give you a pony" campaign strategy. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. How is he giving any more of a pony than Hillary? |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Obama "vote for me, I've employed the better pony salesman". |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I guess you are saying you're against success? |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I reject the use of the message of "hope" to sell a defective product. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. You'd be praising it if your candidate had chosen to campaign this way |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Bullshit. You have no idea what I would do, and it sure as shit wouldn't |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. It's a successful marketing campaign and you are kneecapping him for it |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It didn't take long for "transformation/brighter day" to be reduced to |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Give me a break. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. And if Hillary wins, the same holds true. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Please see my Post 4 for a response. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. If Clinton doesn't win the nomination |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Who is "they?" |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Clinton. Both of them. Who will be co-presidents, if elected. (at least Bill thinks so) |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. People haven't been pushing the racism issue |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. Indeed... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I agree. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. I agree, and I think that Obama supporters should drop the crap about Hillary, too. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. more to that point... its what the GOP does internally. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I agree 100%. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. When will Obama's surrogates... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I didn't think that was approriate either. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. One could say that he was fighting back against them. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Yes, by playing that good ole Lee Atwater perfected "Southern Strategy" |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Yes, it's sort of disingenuous of people to spin that into "See! Michelle's not patriotic" B.S. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's a marketing tool of his invention. NOW you want to pull it back? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. True. Obama began this crap. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The Clintons and their beloved DLC have perfected the art of "divide and conquer" politics. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Many boomers get his point. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. clintons supporters are about to become targets of thier own filthy attacks |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And may I be the first to say, with a few very notable exceptions ... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. So its ok for Democrats to reinforce the RW memes about Clinton? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Depends on the memes...or more accurately the criticisms |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
49. I agree -- That kind of talk is over the top and not helping our cause at all |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. Great article in NYT on Sunday on some of this. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. yes. Charisma is a good thing. So is enthusiasm of his supporters. |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
51. Thanks for posting this message. |
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