I'm now leaning toward Wes Clark for VP...

[fujiyama]

Earlier I thought Edwards would make the better VP candidate -- IMO he's a better campaigner and a more exciting speaker, but the GOP and the media will make it seem as though dems are "soft on terror".

Wes Clark has a pretty clear message regarding terror and I like the fact that he distances the war on Iraq with the war on terror. This is something he can articulate more clearly than Edwards IMO.

Either would make a good VP, but it's very possible there could be another terrorist attack on American targets, between now and Nov. Clark is better insurance in this regard.

[BOSSHOG]

1. Lean a little more

General Clark will ratchet up the toaster setting on bush and cheney. Senator Edwards is a team player and should be given every consideration for a big post, but let Wes do Senator Kerry's heavy lifting right now.

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. I agree.

Wes Clark is EXACTLY who Kerry needs....RIGHT NOW! He needs to choose him, announce it and send him out to smackdown this administration on Iraq and the war on terror. No one can do it like Wes Clark can. He's IT! IMCPO

[lastknowngood]

2. Kerry has to try to find someone less exciting than he is. No easy

task.

[MoonRiver]

4. Wes is the one best suited to help Dems win this election.

I just hope he gets the chance to prove it.

[freeforall]

5. I'd like to see Kerry select Clark for VP

Clark has the war experience (as does Kerry) and would be a strong running mate. Plus, he's already out there shilling for Kerry. Haven't heard if any of the others are.

[TomSeaverr]

6. Does he want

it

[gristy]

8. I think he's stumping for Kerry now, and speaks to him on

occasion too. This article http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i4runmate.html suggests the choice is between Clark and Max Cleland.

[HuskerDem]

12. I read that too, either would be a good choice but nationaly people are

more familiar with Wes Clark right now, and I like Wes's charm factor. (nothing against Max - he's great, just like Wes a little more)

[HuskerDem]

13. I think he does, he's been vigorously out on the stump for Kerry and

he has sent emails to his supporters hinting at more to come in the future.

[Crunchy Frog]

14. Even if he doesn't really *want* it

I believe that he would accept it out of a sense of duty to his country if Kerry were to offer it and believed that his presence on the ticket would help him win.

He has clearly stated that he would do anything to help Kerry win in November, and I believe him.

[gristy]

7. I agree.

I think Wes is the most logical choice for a most electable team. I think I like him the best too.

[BootinUp]

9. Request permission to come aboard.

[Leilani]

10. I agree completely

I've been posting regularly on advantages of Wes for Veep.

The Repubs are pounding on Kerry now as soft on terror & the war. Wes will help with this issue, more than anyone.

[HuskerDem]

11. Clark Insurance - don't hit the polls without it

Kerry has already said his VP will be strong in international relations and national defense so the chance of it ever having been Edwards are nearly nil.

I think Clark articulates the difference between the war on terror (which he is VERY strong on) and the Iraqi debacle very well, better than Kerry as a matter of fact.

Clark has been involved in national defense and international relations his entire adult life. So there ya go.

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Clark does a better job than anybody

at articulating everything that is wrong with Bush's entire approach to foreign policy and national security. He is able to rip all of Bush's excuses and "logic" to shreds in a way that no one else can even approach.

He is also best at articulating an entirely different approach to national security and foreign policy that is fundamentally Democratic in nature and that rejects the basic premises that underlie the Republican approach. Most other Democrats that try to appear strong on defense do it by trying to imitate the Republicans.

In my opinion, he is the only one who can really explain to the American people why Bush is so weak on defense and security, and break the myth that most Americans still seem to buy that Bush is strong in those areas.

This would be a crucial breakthrough in breaking the Republican stranglehold in those areas.

[AP]

15. Edwards isn't soft on terror. He can campaign on his IWR and PA vote.

[tameszu]

18. Here we go

Wow.

You are a brave dude for saying this on DU...good luck, and I hope you have yer helmet and flak jacket strapped on real tight!

P.S.: *Every* Senator, except Feingold, could campaign on their PA vote, but I'm not so sure if a lot of them would want to anymore...

[fujiyama]

24. Don't get me wrong...

I don't think Edwards was soft on terror. He's just lacking in experience regarding foreign affairs. I personally supported him in the primaries.

I just think Clark has a more compelling argument of seperating the Iraq war from the WOT.

As I said, I think either would be able to argue the case, but in the last week I think Clark's opposition to the war makes a better case.

[Bread and Circus]

30. Whoa! Voting yes on the IWR does not sound foreign policy make.

Are you sure you want to make that statement? In and of itself
I can forgive the Yes vote. Given that Kerry and probably
Wes woulda voted for it.

It's just that there needs to be more background and Clark has
that background.

Edwards has many, many strengths but foreign policy is not one of
them.

[Layman]

17. Thumbs Down on Quisling Democrats

"And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice... people I know very well - our president George W. Bush. We need them there." - Clark in remarks delivered at the Pulaski County GOP Lincoln Day Dinner in Little Rock, Arkansas on May 11, 2001
"I'm not going to start the third world war for you," General Sir Mike Jackson, commander of the international K-For peacekeeping force, is reported to have told Gen Clark when he refused to accept an order to send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the airfield of Kosovo's provincial capital.
And one last bon mot about your "Supreme Being"... did anyone else notice that Clark was commanding Fort Hood, Texas during the Waco incident? Most (if not all) of the illegal military hardware and personnel used against the women and children at Waco came from Fort Hood, Texas

[tameszu]

19. Wow

As a Clark supporter, that is the first time I've heard those knocks on Clark before.

It's not like each one has been debunked or put in context like 3162462626 times on this board...maybe I should completely reconsider my support for him...not...

:eyes:

P.S.: Also, as a Quisling, you have to betray a cause that to which you were previously dedicated, and Clark, as a flag-rank officer, was rightfully an independent for most of the past 37 years...

[kayleybeth]

21. LOL, tameszu!

Clark's detractors really need to come up with some new material, don't they?

[democratreformed]

23. So glad you recognize Clark as a "supreme being"

He is rather special isn't he?

[KittyWampus]

25. Fun Facts For Curious Kidz: Did You Know General Boykin

actually advised Federal Agenst about Waco.

That's the General Boykin who made those anti-Muslim slurs not long ago and whom the Bush Administraion neglected to censure for doing so.

[notbush]

20. At a pont in time , when I believe he is REALLY

a democrat, I might consider him.......

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. At THIS point and time, the man

is traveling around the country stumping for John Kerry. At THIS point and time the man is spending more time away from his family to help the Democrats win this election. At THIS point and time the man has spoken out against the cabal, PNAC, the war in Iraq, tax cuts, lack of jobs, healthcare, ect....

He voted for Clinton TWICE, once in 1992 and once in 1996 and he voted for Gore in 2000. If he's not a Democrat... no one is. Give it a rest already. The man is who he says he is and proves it every damn day.

[Donna Zen]

28. Is this a joke Clarkie reunion thread?

Wasn't it just a week ago that we were laughing our asses off about these same inane comments. Damn, we did a better job of repeating them too! Hey! I know, let's talk about BR (blink rate.)

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. What blink rate?

Clark doesn't blink! He's a DERANGED WACKO! It's so pathetic.

[kayleybeth]

33. Don't forget the MIND CONTROL accusation

and the Haitian man breasts :0)

[dogman]

26. Take that up with McGovern

who said he was the best Democrat in the race.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. I forgot about McGovern. SMART man.

;)

[DaveSZ]

31. I like Clark

Quite a bit, and he was who I originally supported until he dropped out. My ideal ticket would have been Clark and John Edwards, since they are both from the South (and could compete there).

Well if the Repukes want to play the "weak on national security card," two war heroes put an end to that bullshit pretty quickly.

I like Clark's line:

"I've forgotten more about national security than George Bush will ever know!"

Maybe we can win Arkansas with Clark. If we can carry Arkansas plus New Hampshire, and hold all the Gore states, that gets us to 270 electoral votes.

[in_cog_ni_to]

32. Clark came in 3rd in NH....

right behind the 2 Northeasterners....Kerry and Dean. :) I think a Kerry/Clark ticket would do very well in NH AND Arkansas.

"I've forgotten more about national security than George Bush will ever know!"

Classic Clark line! <sigh> I miss him so much. :(