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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:54 PM
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Your grammar lesson for the day: The definition of GHOSTWRITER



Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
ghost writer
–noun a person who writes one or numerous speeches, books, articles, etc., for another person who is named as or presumed to be the author.

American Heritage Dictionary - (gōst'rī'tər) Pronunciation Key
n. One who writes for and gives credit of authorship to another.

WordNet
noun
a writer who gives the credit of authorship to someone else


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There you have it class. A ghostwriter is someone who writes for another person and gives them the credit for it.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:55 PM
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1. OK, so...
A ghostwriter is like a speech writer, but for books?

Is that right?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:58 PM
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3. Yes, but a "speech writer" writes original speeches.
Obama plagiarized parts of his speeches, or his "speech writers" did.What's your point?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:59 PM
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6. Uh...
That the person who wrote Patrick's speech is the same guy who wrote Obama's speech?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:00 PM
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9. I don't know, is it?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:01 PM
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12. Yes.
In fact Patrick told Obama to use the soundbite.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:02 PM
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16. Still plagiarism.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:03 PM
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17. Mmm, no.
Sorry, it's not. By any stretch of the imagination.
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elixir2 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:11 PM
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20. Yes, still plagiarism.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:11 PM
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21. Nope.
Not even close.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:59 PM
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7. Obviously there is a whole group of people that don't know what a ghostwriter really is.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:00 PM
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11. You think so?
Because I was thinking there was a whole group of people who don't know what hypocrisy is.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:02 PM
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15. I see ALOT of hypocrisy coming from both sides.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:57 PM
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:58 PM
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4. As in "Ted Sorensen was JFK's ghostwriter for 'Profiles in Courage'." nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:42 PM
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24. What's your point? That Obama is doing the same as JFK by not crediting? I agree.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:58 PM
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5. that addresses the ethics of the matter as between the writer and the person claiming credit
but not as between the writer and the readers. Wolfson complained that Obama's audience was being tricked.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:59 PM
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8. More a vocabulary lesson than a grammar lesson
:shrug:
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:02 PM
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14. agreed. not really grammar at all.

BUSTED!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:07 PM
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18. Grammar is the proper use of words.
nice try tho.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:48 PM
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27. that was what I thought.
I could actually use some grammar lessons.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:00 PM
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10. ghostwriters sure
But to not even acknowledge anyone who assisted her was not exactly especially great form.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4646416

Many books have acknowledgments.

Just saying
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:01 PM
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13. Then she should have been called a co-author, not a ghostwriter.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:08 PM
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19. does not compute... does not compute... Warning Will Robinson, Warning!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:11 PM
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22. Definition of "Class" and "Grace"--
acknowledging someone's work on your behalf, whether you legally "owe" it to them or not.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:36 PM
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23. kicking because I think we need another lesson.
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carlotta Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:46 PM
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25. Did Obama have a ghostwriter for his book?
We will probably never know. Most often, ghostwriters are required to sign a contract promising not to reveal their participation. So Obama can run around claiming he wrote his book when it may not be the case.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:48 PM
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26. Yeah , I think his name was Casper.
:evilgrin:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:50 PM
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29. Welcome to DU
:hi:

We might never know who was Obama's ghostwriter because they probably understand their role.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:50 PM
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28. And the person who represents she actually wrote a book is called "a lying asshole"
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 01:52 PM by TexasObserver
It Takes a Village to cover for a lying asshole who claims she wrote a book someone else wrote.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 PM
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30. lying asshole????
Thanks for the post of hope and unity.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:35 PM
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32. Yes, a person who lies about writing a book is a lying asshole.
Apparently in your world, calling a lying asshole what they are is worse than said person misrepresenting that she wrote a book and taking credit for it. Nice.

That's kind of like voting for a WAR and then feigning outrage over a speech.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:01 PM
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31. Now why wouldn't Obamites know what a ghostwriter is? Let's see...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 02:01 PM by Perry Logan
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:06 PM
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33. Here's your JOURNALISM lesson of the day.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 03:19 PM by TexasObserver
Since you don't understand the difference between grammar and the proper use and definitions of words, here is what Plagiarism is, and why Hillary has committed and continues to commit plagiarism for representing that her book is her work.

plagiarism

noun
1. a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work
2. the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own



You're welcome.
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