Attack Your Opponent's Strength - Karl Rove Playbook. I see that Hillary picked up a copy.

[NoodleyAppendage]

This whole bullsh*t plagarism non-story is meant to degrade Obama's central strength...that of his oratory and ability to charge up a crowd with his inspirational speeches. It is an attack on his strength, which is a CENTRAL TACTIC of Karl Rove and used with good effect on John Kerry during the 2004 election.

It's so nice to see that Hillary, who states that she is the agent of change, is willing to use Rovian tactics to do anything to hold onto power for her corporate cronies and DLC backers.

Hillary Clinton loves Karl Rove. Rove deserves a residual fee for her using his trademark attack strategy.

J

[Horse with no Name]

1. Actually I think she just borrowed Obama's copy. n/t

[NoodleyAppendage]

4. Did the Hillary Campaign instruct you to use an Edwards icon?

Just checking to see what the new strategy Hillary has for her minions infiltrating DU.

J

[Horse with no Name]

9. I've been here longer than you so I definitely am not a "minion" infiltrating DU

You...on the other hand...

[Horse with no Name]

6. delete

wrong place

[ginnyinWI]

2. it's especially strange coming from her

She has copied a lot of Obama's slogans, even his main one, "Yes We Can". Even a casual observer notices these things. Not good to throw stones if you live in a glass house.

[NoodleyAppendage]

8. "Yes, We Will...Yes, We Will...Yes, We Will..." I guess that wasn't derivative or copying? n/t

J

[rinsd]

22. You mean "Yes we can" as in "Si Si Pueda"?

Ya know Obama's "original" line ripped off from the farmworker's union?

[Horse with no Name]

34. It's on Dora the Explorer too

:rofl:

[rinsd]

39. !!

:spray:

[NoodleyAppendage]

46. So, I guess she's copying someone who's copying. How desperate and degrading.

Hillary's seeking power has addled her brain.

j

[rinsd]

49. "How desperate and degrading."

Agreed,,so when will you stop?

[Horse with no Name]

14. And Obama co-opted Edwards "change"

Pot...meet kettle.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

30. Edwards wants both candidates to adopt his policies and ideas

That is what he is trying to leverage by withholding his endorsement of either candidate.

[Horse with no Name]

33. Not while he was still using them

:eyes:

[AX10]

3. Obama is all for using Rovian tactics.

They assaulted HRC with the race card in South Carolina

[NoodleyAppendage]

5. No. Dingle-berry brain. Hillary's Husband, Bill, injected race into SC campaign.

I know it pains your tiny brain to think it, but Obama did not bring up the race card....Bill did. And, that's a fact, Jack.

J

[AX10]

10. Scumbag Jesse Jackson Jr. started...

it in New Hampshire when he said that HRC couldn't cry for New Orleans, but only for herself.
The only one's with a tiny brain are those who belong to the Obama cult.

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[dkf]

40. Thats actually a pretty good line.

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[NoodleyAppendage]

36. It is you...my tiny brained and likely Freeper friend, who is the idiot.

Please peddle your racist drivel elsewhere...like your home at Freeperland.
J

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

38. like "fly over states" don't matter? Big state strategy?

Red states not important?

No we can't - win anywhere but the "big" states?

Changing the rules - now its Texas that has unfair primary rules?

[pocoloco]

50. Who is shucking and jiving now????

Just checking.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. That's why Obama Swiftboated the Clintons on Race in SC. Classic Rove.

Only idiots, asshats, and propaganda victims think the Clintons are racists.
And those that do have Barack Obama himself to thank for that lie.

[NoodleyAppendage]

12. It is you, sir, who is deluded. BILL CLINTON injected race into SC.

Obama responded to the bullsh*t that your candidate's husband brought into the campaign. Not the other way around.

I know you've been given your talking point to refute Hillary using Rovian tactics, but please spread your brand of crazy elsewhere.

J

[MethuenProgressive]

23. That's silly. Who told you that? The Obama Camp was caught plotting to Swiftboat:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

the Obama campaign is seeking to capitalize on the view - and push the narrative - that the Clintons are using race-related issues for political leverage. In public, the Obama campaign has denied that they are trying to propagate such a perception, noting that the document never was sent to the press.

[ruggerson]

11. Rove did not create "attack your opponent's strength"

it is a very old political tactic, predating Kennedy/Nixon.

[NoodleyAppendage]

17. Lee Atwater, maybe? Regardless, she's using the tactic...

It's clear for all to see but the delusional pro-corporate, DINO/DLC lovers tasked here at DU to shape the message for their faux Dem candidate.

J

[rinsd]

25. You can go all the way back to Jefferson vs Adams for that tactic.

"It's clear for all to see but the delusional pro-corporate, DINO/DLC lovers tasked here at DU to shape the message for their faux Dem candidate."

Actually its very clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[rinsd]

18. Most Obama supporters seem unaware campaigning existed prior to 2007.

[bluerum]

13. Karl also likes to cause infighting among presumed allies. Noodleyappendage loves Karl Rove.

Rove deserves a residual fee for Noodley using one of his attack strategies.

FYI - I am not crazy about Clinton, but I think this OP reeks.

[Horse with no Name]

16. See... nice that others recognize it too. n/t

[NoodleyAppendage]

21. Oh, I see. Raising any point about Hillary's tactics = bad. Bashing Obama at DU = good.

What an asshat.

J

[bluerum]

29. How about: bashing = bad. I will reserve my namecalling for the privacy of

my home. But be assured, you have been slandered.

[rinsd]

15. I am now convinced that the vast majority of Obama supporters have never been thru a campaign.

Attack your opponent's strength is oppo research 101.

Its why Obama went after Hillary's strength of fond memories of the 90's.

Thank god the actual Obama campaign has more experienced players than his DU supporters.

[cd3dem]

51. and played into the media's editing game to label Clinton's racist...

I could have supported Obama but will not vote for someone who brings the party down for his own gain...

--feeding the racist frenzy....

--making comments about "expecting the same results" ... essentially criticizing the Clinton era...

--praising Reagan who has ruined the lives of many who work in labor and in unions...

--and demanding he get his way... super-delegates vote for him... Florida and Michigan don't count... or his people will sit out the election...

I say, I would die from my own vomit before voting for this guy!

[RememberWellstone]

19. Wrong, it is a story.

You can't just do these 2 minute hit speeches without someone giving credit where it was do. He was doing a soundbite...this is his whole campaign. Soundbite to win the elction. Sorry, but by November he'll actually have to have policy and his own speeches.

[NoodleyAppendage]

26. And, what of her campaign, which has STOLEN his message of hope?

What of Hillary's derivative uses of the phrase, "Yes, We Can!"

I guess the prima facie evidence supporting her rampant unoriginality in this campaign is lost to your Hillbot mind.

j

[bluerum]

35. Since when does anyone have exclusive rights to a message of hope?

PREPOSTEROUS.

OK. This is juvenile. I am checking out.

Later noodley.

[NoodleyAppendage]

41. Was she running on "Hope" early in the campaign? No! She was running on "inevitability."

You know she's adopted his message and it's just hard for you to accept. Cognitive dissonance is what it's called, I believe.

J

[rinsd]

48. Really? Hillary's early campaign speeches were "Vote for me, its already over?"

[rinsd]

42. Yes because no politicians has ever spoked of hope during a campaign.

God the naive amongst Obama supporters would make me laugh if they were so vicious in their ignorance.

"What of Hillary's derivative uses of the phrase, "Yes, We Can!"

I guess the prima facie evidence supporting her rampant unoriginality in this campaign"

Hillary's derivative use vs Obama's outright ripoff?

Which is more unoriginal?

[itcfish]

24. Funny Though

isnt Rove advising Obama how to take Hillary down?

[NoodleyAppendage]

27. No. That would be Mark Penn. Look him up on Google...but hold your nose while doing it. n/t

J

[HeraldSquare212]

28. I thought Rove's innovation was to attack your opponent on your weaknesses.

[AtomicKitten]

32. The student has become the master, grasshopper.

The only problem with that coapted Rove philosophy is that Barack isn't playing which makes ClintonCo look particularly lame.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. come on Obama has spoken 1 friggen original word since before Boston...Ted Sorensen has been feeding

him all JFK and MLK words


OBAMA GOT WORDS?

I have been waiting for 3 years to hear them...I won't hold my breath

[cd3dem]

43. Attack Your Opponent's Strength - Karl Rove Playbook - mark Clinton's as racist!!!

and steal the election!!!!!

by dividing the democrats...

[aquarius dawning]

44. If I'm fighting a boxer, I'm going to make him grapple on the floor.

I'm not even going to let him use his strengths.

besides, we both know I'm training to be a cage fighter.

[loveangelc]

45. This is so stupid. Why are all the posts about this? I haven't even seen this on tv...

[DemGa]

47. Obama attacks the Clinton's strength: Beating the right-wing machine

He paints Hillary as "divisive" and "polarizing" for it.

Looks like Obama found that strategy first. Except in Obama's case, he's sided with the right-wing attack machine; The Clinton's beat it once already.

[kennetha]

52. And this is bad because?

I don't see what your complaint is. Of course, Clinton is trying to attack Obama where he's strongest, if she sees an opening there. Who wouldn't? It doesn't take a genius to do that. And Obama set himself up for it by using another's words, when he presents himself as so authentic, so original. He even admitted it was a mistake in his own press conference about this just a little while ago. Can't blame the opposition for exploiting your mistakes.

[NJmaverick]

53. Her and her staff and family and supporters have don a great job

There is no way my morals and sense of right and wrong, would let me vote for her.

[NoodleyAppendage]

54. Agreed. Fine lady, but bad for our country at this point in time. n/t

J