Obama's Supporters Prepare for Clinton Momentum, Eventual Win

[elixir]

From a recent post. I think this is very well expressed and is a genuine concern.

"Wins on March 4th in Ohio and Texas will give her lots of press attention...she'll claim that she is on her way to the nomination, there will be balloons, screaming crowds, lots of coverage, headlines, etc....March 5th headlines are LIKELY to be "Comeback KID" and that sort of crap..PREPARE FOR THIS

That, as Obama supporters, is what we must endure, that is ultimately, what could lose us the nomination....because look, in terms of raw numbers, your analysis looks pretty accurate...don't forget all the other states that have to vote as well, like Indiana, North Carolina, Mississippi, Wyoming, etc...all states that Obama will pick up delegates in. But again, the only thing that could stop Obama, is if she picks up so much momentum from March 4th, that she starts winning other states that Obama is currently favored in.

I think there are lots of questions remaining but i think there are some absolute "certainties" based on the makeup of the electorate, and one of those is the fact that Obama will NOT win Ohio or Texas. I think finding strategies to dampen her likely 3/4 sweep are important for Obama's campaign."

[still_one]

1. Sorry, NO ONE can bank on who the nominee will be. IT IS TOO CLOSE TO CALL

that is the reality

[RiverStone]

22. And as a Obama supporter - I agree!

Too early to brag about anything .....yet.:hi:

[babylonsister]

2. I'm not preparing for that. Nice try though. nt

[MonkeyFunk]

3. Nice sig pic

but I believe it's properly "Madam President".

[Danger Mouse]

4. I'll say the same thing to you that I say to overconfident Obama supporters...

don't count your chickens before they hatch, lest you wind up with egg on your face.

[UALRBSofL]

9. Elrond Hubbard

I'm going to puke on you. :puke:

Don't rain on Hillary's parade. :rant:

[Name removed]

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[Danger Mouse]

18. I'll happily rain on anyone's parade, Obama's or Hillary's.

Neither one has got it sewn up yet.
And kindly keep your vomit to yourself.

[Cant trust em]

60. There's no parade to rain on yet

Parades come after a win, not before. There's nothing to celebrate yet.

[Rock_Garden]

5. The Dream Team still makes sense to me.

[pampango]

6. It's certainly possible. A lot depends on what happens on 3/4. We spend

a lot of time here discussing SIDS, Michigan, Florida, etc.

If Hillary does really well on 3/4, the dynamic of the race will change. Likewise, if she does poorly, things will look bad for her regardless of SIDS, Michigan, Florida, etc. We can spin all types of scenarios that could evolve from different results on 3/4 (that's what DU is for isn't it?).

[SoFlaJet]

7. note to Clintonistas;

your girl has lost 8 primaries/contests in a row about to make it 10 with Hawaii and Wisconsin-keep telling yourselves how great you're doing while Obama just keeps winning

[UALRBSofL]

15. SoFlaJet Were gonna win, you can count on it.

We got the GoMaMa motivation. That will carry us to the GE. :headbang:

[SoFlaJet]

23. you may have MOtivation

but Obama's go the MOmentum-it's about to be 10 wins in a row

[leftynyc]

35. Are you a puke or do you

just use their lingo?

[SoFlaJet]

43. Strange coming from a supporter of a candidate

that used the same rhetoric as John McCain did the night before

[leftynyc]

50. I'll support whoever has the D behind

their name. Clintonista is right out of Rush's disgusting mouth - seeing it on this board in relation to a democrat makes me want to retch.

[SoFlaJet]

51. and it's all over the Blogs

Daily Kos, Huff Post, The Ed Schultz show-don't give Limbaugh too much credit

[leftynyc]

53. That doesn't make it any less sleazy (eom)

[elixir]

54. Obama contributes the most to superdelegates campaigns, courting their vote

Obama: $695,000
Clinton: $200,000

[rodeodance]

58. Please do not use that RW label on us. You have many others you can use.

[emilyg]

63. "your girl"????

Now how would you like "your boy"????????????

[juajen]

64. Yes, and with all those contests he has won, they are still

practicaly even. Considering his charisma and all that glitter, I think she's done really well. Plus, don't forget he's sexy and young. What more do we need in a President? Oh, I don't know, experience, wisdom, and maturity, maybe? Also, let's not forget all the help he's getting from Republicans and Independents. That's she's still in the game is nothing short of miraculous!

[zulchzulu]

8. That was funny!

So a couple Obama fans at Denny's in Poughkeepsie were yakking...is that your source?

:rofl:

[whatchamacallit]

10. I AM preparing for it

I'm preparing for her to get some extra "help" from her establishment friends in the Bush administration.

[NeedleCast]

11. Ahhhh, the good 'ol "IN YOUR FACE!" sportsman-ship

Gotta love it. It's fun being 12, huh?

[BOSSHOG]

12. Don't forget the road to the nomination for theDems goes through Mississippi

on March 11th. Mississipians will decide the nomination, so start sucking up to us now.

[babylonsister]

21. Ha!

[dchill]

38. LOL!

You are correct, sir!

[Adelante]

13. Heh

[jefferson_dem]

14. We'll see. Hillary's the Establishment front-runner and absolutely should win going away.

If she doesn't, it will be one of the biggest campaign fuck-ups in American electoral history.

[TwilightGardener]

36. Yep--the fact that this is still close, and could go either way at this point, means

she is already a colossal failure, campaign-wise. A freshman Senator who has "no substance", who only makes "pretty speeches", an Unknown, an Upstart, Mr. Madrassa, Mr. Black Candidate Like Jesse Jackson, Mr. Cokehead, Mr. False Hopes, Mr. Latinos/Old Ladies/Whites/Working Class Won't Vote For Him--she should have put him away, months ago. Amazing. That such a politically gifted candidate, one as celebrated for her skills and assets and establishment support as she was, would end up barely pulling it out if she wins the nom, is not a good omen. That demonstrates some serious-ass problems behind the "juggernaut" facade.

[juajen]

67. We have said a lot about the MSM on this board.

Consider please that he is getting at lease twice the airtime and then ask yourselves why MSM is promoting Obama. MSM absolutely destroyed Al Gore and everyone on this board knows it. They do have an agenda, and it looks as if they want Obama to be the dem nominee. Hillary is fighting this with everything she's got. Let's hope it will be enough.

[TwilightGardener]

73. I watched the MSM trash Obama as "no substance" over and over by pundits

this week, calling his supporters "cult-like", saying he has no specific proposals, that he is "messianic"--all attacks on either him or his supporters. The MSM is trying to tear him down now--and some of that BS comes from the GOP and your girl, too. Anyone who runs, especially on the Dem side, is going to have to fight MSM memes while St. John McCain is held up fraudulently as a maverick. We'll see how Obama does. The press is now rooting for Hillary's "comeback" (yet again), kind of like they rooted for McCain's "surge" in NH before he even budged in the polls--it became a self-fulfilling prophecy and essentially won him the race. The sword cuts one way--always the Democrat, eventually--doesn't matter which one.

[WilyWondr]

17. giuliani 101

Didn't she learn anything from the failed giuliani campaign's "wait-till-florida" strategy?


The people in WI have been listening to BHO for the past few days while HRC has been banking on TX and OH.

[bunnies]

19. I think you mean Obama Supporter. No "s". nt

[BenDavid]

20. I for one will be happy when HRC wins this, and I will be sad too

knowing the obama folks here in the 11th hour tried to make it seem as though if you do not support obama then somehow you are a bigot and even more, a racist.....Maybe most of these semi bigots on the obama side will leave this forum. What I mean by semi bigots are those that support obama by telling themselves "he is one of the good ones" and justify it by saying, "you don't see obama marching for the jena 6 or talking about the duke rape case, so he is one of the good ones". If you obama people that have a clear conscience in this and support obama for all the right reasons then you should be ashamed that you allow those to voice their views over and beyond the rational obama supporters.....

Are we having a race war? What party is this I belong too?

[UALRBSofL]

44. BenDavid were not

bigots and Obama supporters know that. They are projecting because they know Obama is losing to Hillary so they take there frustrations out on Hillary supporters. Once Hillary sews up Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin it will all be wrapped up.

[Alhena]

24. Obama will win Mississippi big after Texas, then it's a 6 week dead period

so he'll go into that period with a win in Mississippi.

[DemGa]

25. Cult of personality is a tricky thing

It can turn as quickly as it began -- they should also keep this in mind. Sorry, but it's true.

[Thepricebreaker]

26. I like my sign better...

[mopinko]

27. me too.

funny what some people waste their 3 posts on. but, if you have a lot of sock puppets, ......

[UALRBSofL]

33. OMG No you didn't ! ! ! !

What would Obama look like in drag????:yourock:

I think he could take all the female vote if he did that. :)

[Hepburn]

41. OMFG........

......spew coffee all over my keyboard!

:rofl:

[elixir]

56. Obama contributes the most to superdelegates campaigns, courting their vote

And he'll get a sex change just to be president. He'll do anything to win, anything.

[Botany]

28. The numbers, votes, delegates, press, endorsements, and money are all ....

.... going to Obama.

Hillary planned to wrap it up on 2/5 and is now in a world of hurt.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,171327 ...

This is not the race that Clinton thought she would be running. Her campaign was built on inevitability, a haughty operation so confident it would have the nomination wrapped up by now that it didn't even put a field organization in place for the states that were to come after the megaprimary on Feb. 5.

[FogerRox]

29. Bookmarked for later. LOL.

[not_too_L8]

30. Except she is losing Texas

new poll numbers from Texas

Clinton 42%
Obama 48%
Someone else 3%
Undecided 7%

Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama among self-described Democrats 47% to 42%. Obama leads Clinton among self-described independents and Republicans 24% to 71%. Obama leads among men 55% to 29% (47% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads among women 54% to 42%. Clinton leads Obama among white voters 51% to 40% (53% of likely Democratic primary voters), Obama leads Clinton among African American voters 76% to 17% (22% of likely Democratic primary voters), and Clinton leads Obama among Latino voters 44% to 42%.

22% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and 20% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 30% of men say they would never vote for Clinton in the primary.

[dchill]

31. "the fact that Obama will NOT win Ohio or Texas"

It's NOT a fact. It hasn't happened yet, and very probably won't - and therefore cannot be a FACT. These spin-talking points are the only thing that is "inevitable" in the Clinton campaign. The political paradigm in this country has shifted, and the Clintonian Era in the Democratic Party is in its "last throes."

When they add up the delegates from all the states that "don't count", there will be an overwhelming majority for Obama. That's not a fact, it's a reasonable prediction.

[Avalux]

32. New Poll out of Texas shows Obama ahead.

"and one of those is the fact that Obama will NOT win Ohio or Texas"

Don't bet on it. :kick:

[UALRBSofL]

39. sparosnare that's my favorite pic of Obama

He looks very business like. :)

[Avalux]

49. Thanks! I'm fond of it myself.

:hi:

[Hepburn]

34. Who did your graphic with the misspelling?

Just curious....

[Yael]

37. "Madame"? Playing off on the pimp theme?

You may want to change that to "Madam".

[Hepburn]

40. You noticed, too? LOL...

....too funny! I guess that goes to prove up the statement that the more educated voters support Obama??? :hi:

[UALRBSofL]

42. Madame or Madam??

Isn't Madame a word in the dictionary?

[Hepburn]

47. In a FRENCH dictionary, yes.... n/t

[rodeodance]

59. get real. Some of you Obama folks will degrade anything! shameful.

[Yael]

66. Its the English language

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

45. the OP missed this one

Eight straight times O trailed H before campaigning in-state (nine with Wisconsin now), and eight (to be nine) times he left with more votes and delegates. It certainly isn't impossible for H to do well in Ohio and Tx, but predicting that goes against all the recent in-state trends as well as the national trend, and such predictions would have to be based on way more than polls showing H ahead several weeks before the voting.

[madrchsod]

46. Madame President?

[Hepburn]

48. Too funny!

:rofl:

[madrchsod]

52. here i thought i`d get slammed

go to the website for an ear worm..... :evilgrin:

[Occam Bandage]

55. Just one more "certainty" for Obama to break down. Clinton's inevitability train

has derailed often enough so far.

[Political Heretic]

57. Bookmarked.

[bvar22]

61. First the "pimping out" Chelsea thing,

now calling Hillary a "Madam"........ :shrug:

[Johnny__Motown]

68. OBAMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, IT WAS ONE MORON ON MSNBC

[bvar22]

75. Lighten up.

That was humor.
:)

[nickn777]

62. That was my post and I wrote it because....

Those of us that support Obama are getting way too damn cocky.....That scenario is very realistic, so let's not get complacent...political races can change on the drop of a dime..........

[Alexander]

65. Well Obama's now ahead in Wisconsin and Texas...

So sorry, it doesn't look like we're going to have Madame President any time soon.

[nickn777]

74. I am an Obama supporter and....

there is no goddamn farkin way in holy hell that Obama is ahead in Texas. Do not go by ARG polls, they have an 8.5% margin of error.

[XemaSab]

69. Thanks for your concern.

:eyes:

[Johnny__Motown]

70. Wrong, if she does not win by approx. 60%-40% the Headlines will be "To Little To Late"

No way she can win by that much



Clinton supporters are starting to sound like Edwards supporters did a few weeks ago.

[catagory5]

71. She does not need a 60-40 split

please do the math and quit making stuff up. She doesnt need that big of a split. Yes he has won 8 states to her 1 (n.m.) but just about all those were small. She has won the big states. OH and TX if she wins(which she is polling very high) will swing it back to even. Then comes the great state of PA. Oh how I love you PA. PA is gonna be a game changer. Clinton will not only win PA but will win it in a very big way, say 65-35ish. She has the endorsements up there, she has the polling, and she has her Husband who is still loved like no other. PA will be so big for Clinton that it will swing her into the 'front runner' status that Obama has now.(which frankly I dont think either one of them wants to be labled front runner) From there it is mainly small states and then P.R. closes it out. At the end she has another firewall if you will; Super Delegates. So people, listen to the OP becuz I think they are on to something and you can bookmark that!

Viva la Texas

[catagory5]

72. and poster who said obama is ahead in Texas....

Get a grip. Don't go finding one poll that suits you and throw it up here. For sure when it is ARG. They have been horrible this election. Here are the latest polls goofy.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/tx/texas_democratic_primary-312.html Go look for yourself before you post garbage




Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 02/11 - 02/14 - 50.3 40.0 Clinton +10.3
Rasmussen 02/14 - 02/14 577 LV 54 38 Clinton +16.0
InsiderAdvantage 02/14 - 02/14 403 LV 48 41 Clinton +7.0
TCUL/Hamilton 02/11 - 02/13 400 LV 49 41 Clinton +8.0
See All Texas Democratic Primary Polling Data


ARG who? hehehehehehehe