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spongebobsquareshirt (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Original message |
Quinnipiac in Florida: McCain 41%, Obama 39%, 12 undecided |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Or Ohio |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Obama has yet to campaign |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. In the primaries. The general is a different beast |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. True |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. It would apply IF the rethugs didn't attack him during that period |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. Those numbers look about right |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. We dont really desperately need Florida. Ohio yes. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Florida is more important. It is the 4th biggest state, Ohio is 7th |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. If we turn Ohio and hold everywhere else, we win |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yes but why give up on Florida from the outset? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I'm just responding to the OPs doomsday sounding scenario |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. Like this one? Nevada: Obama 50% McCain 38% |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. See... |
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spongebobsquareshirt (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Well, yeah, but without losing Ohio to McCain (Quinnipiac: McCain 42%, Obama 40% in Ohio) |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. How bout Virginia, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Obama is winning VA in a poll? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, I havent seen a VA poll, but I really think it will go blue this year |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. If it does it will be a national landslide |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Hey, Kaine could be on the ticket. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. He might but why not Warner? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Isnt Warner running for Senator though? Not to mention, Kaine is a big supporter of Obama. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Oh yeah. Forgot about that |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Biden is the ideal choice, but Ive always heard a no on Biden |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. From Joe or folks in the Obama campaign? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Joe |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. 2% again, in a poll that is 8 1/2 months out |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. "New" candidates suffer a lot in those 8 1/2 months |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Two data points |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Three. Dukakis (-24) |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. The opposite happened with Clinton against Bush |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The glove does not fit |
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Independent-Voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Dukasis, like Kerry, had the personality of a wet bag. Nice, competent guys, but horrible candidtate |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. Yes, and Hillary has almost the exact same numbers in Ohio against McCain |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. Gore lost Florida |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Except Gore won Florida |
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CalGator (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. damn jurassic retirees that voted for Buchanon |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. According to Fox News, Gore lost Maryland as well... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Or this one? New Hampshire: McCain vs. Obama Rasmussen McCain 36, Obama 49 |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. NH and NV have 9 electoral votes. Florida and Ohio have 47 |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Better than Hillary who is LOSING Washington state. nt |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
9. The flip side is... |
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CalGator (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. bzactly. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. We do not need to win Florida. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Thats why I personally dont care if we do not seat their delegates |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. It's easier to win one state than two |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
23. Bwawaaaaa! McCain was all up and down that state and the governor |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. Flordia isn't a 'must win' besides |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
40. Are there head to head polls with Obama v McCain in: NM, CO, MO, and/or LA? |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
41. It is too red down here and the hispanic population basically follow |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. The governor Christ is very popular here also |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
42. The poll is totally meaningless right now |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
44. So...it's tied |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
45. You forgot to mention that Hillary is also 2 pts behind McCain. nt |
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Robbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Florida |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
48. Clinton fares no better there |
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Obamaniac (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
49. Um these numbers are actually good for Obama |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. Only Terry McAuliffe thinks Florida is critical to Democrats. And he's an idiot. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. Bill turned Florida blue almost 12 years ago. |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
58. Wait until Obama disenfranchise the |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Where did you come up with Obama will lose California? |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I'll take that to mean ... |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
60. We don't need to win Florida. |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. The same poll showed FL: McCain 44, Clinton 42 |
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miceelf (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
62. Dude |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. McCain will clobber both of them ... |
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