Will there be one night that Keith Olberman presents the Clinton campaign in a positive light?

[bigtree]

Probably not.

[ShortnFiery]

1. It's not all one sided but you know that, don't you?

Everything that is said by the M$M is filtered through our own personal predjudices which, those of us who are honest with ourselves, do have by the mere fact of being HUMAN. :shrug:

[bigtree]

4. enjoy the free publicity

[jlake]

56. Enjoy it while you can.

[Straight Shooter]

2. What corporations advertise on MSNBC during KO's spots?

That would be interesting to know.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Olberman has become the iconoclast that has run out of icons to clast.

Now he just sounds like Tweety.

[ShortnFiery]

7. Too funny! When he's attacking BushCo., Olberman is "the cat's meow" ...

this is so transparent. :(

[The_Casual_Observer]

27. The bush stuff seemed worthy if overly dramatic. This stuff is just sports

banter & bravo mostly about rumors of behind the scenes stuff. For instance, he made a big deal & went on for about a half an hour about the 5 million dollar campaign loan, & kept referring to it for days after. He's caught up in this whole trip where he tries to make every twist & turn into some profound occurrence that requires careful analysis by his team of Gore Vidal wanna-bees.

[bigtree]

31. I love the Bush stuff

[ShortnFiery]

35. Yeah, Gore Vidal can't tune up my 15 year old car.

:eyes: Many people are seeing "an ugly side" to the Clinton Campaign Machine that smacks of smarmy tactics. If HRC has to "cheat to win" all hell's going to break loose in this country. :(

[LSparkle]

5. We were just treated to an hour of "Hardball" slobbering over her

So now Keith is giving the "other side of the story."

[bigtree]

8. I turned that off

and waited for Keith. No better . . .

[ShortnFiery]

11. Hey, LSparkle - I love the quip "Slobbering all over" somebody ...

:rofl: BTW I did not appreciate Tweety's final dig against Governor Doyle (WI) to that shameless HRC surrogate, "We opened Governor Doyle like a can of tuna. Didn't we buddy?" OMG that was so "inside the beltway" smarmy-type of tag team slime. :eyes:

[anamandujano]

Tweety slobbering I can believe, but what did he say about Hillary that

got you into a tizzy?

This is a serious question. Someone needs to monitor the intensity of Tweety's bipolar phases.

[LSparkle]

30. Guess he had to do something to compensate for that "leg thing"

he talked about after listening to Obama on Tuesday night ...

[Catchawave]

34. Did we watch the same Hardball tonight.....lol....

All I saw were pained expressions on CM's face after her clips. Like he's being forced.

[alstephenson]

Apparently not. eom

[Jillian]

6. I stopped watching him.

Dan Abrams is on next, and is much better.

[TwilightGardener]

9. I just spent an hour with Tucker Carlson, where one of the pundits

is a Hillary supporter--BUT she continued to shill for Hillary in her "pundit" role. Paul Begala does the same thing on CNN--slyly promotes Hillary and puts down Obama while pretending to be simply analyzing the race.

[LSparkle]

16. Yeah, and Bill Press (the other pundit) was doing the same

He "claims" to be independent but leans toward Clinton at every turn. At least the Obama supporters I've seen on these shows (like Stephanie Miller) have admitted they're supporting him, instead of pretending to be neutral while showing their bias.

[TwilightGardener]

29. Exactly--since they're acting as "pundit" instead of supporter, their

assertions about Hillary and Barack go unchallenged and stand as official analysis.

[Auntie Bush]

52. Bill Press has obviously been an Obama supporter...I've been noticing.

[my3boyz]

17. Yeah, Tucker had the Hillary supporter PLUS Bill Press who has been

praising Clinton the entire campaign. He is clearly a Hillary fan! (GAG)

[ShortnFiery]

20. Bill Press is as shamlessly snarky as Begala ... when I listen to him I want to ...

VOMIT. :puke:

[pdxmom]

10. I've been watching it and I don't see that he isn't just reporting straight

news and then analysis by others. I've also heard criticism of Obama during this segment.

What do you feel he was missreporting or that he should have reported that he didn't?

[hill08]

12. I lost all respect for him long ago

[my3boyz]

13. I hope not!

[Hieronymus]

14. His job is to report facts. Perhaps when Hillary does something positive ....

[rodeodance]

67. what a bunch of crap

[90-percent]

15. Keith

Keith is my hero and is in the mold of Edward R. Murrow.

He has had so much coverage of the White House Traitors that is avalable no other place inside the real of Corporate Media.

I think he's just practicing objective fact based journalism.

-90% Jimmy

[OHdem10]

18. Of course not. GE is doing business in Iran much to the chagrin

of the Bush Adm. Obama will sit down with Tehran no conditions
in lst year of Presidency.

MSNBC pushed GWB into the WH. Remember Jack Welsh.
War Contracts.

Follow the money.

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[DURHAM D]

47. Hello - you are the one without a clue. Gheez. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

19. He needs to stress the positives of losing 8 in a row, going broke and tearing your team apart

[anamandujano]

21. Who writes his paycheck? That will give you your answer.

[H2O Man]

22. Keith had

supported Senator Clinton up until January.

[Olney Blue]

25. Was it when she pulled the terror card? I remember his scathing story

that night.

[johnnydrama]

36. actually

I think he supported Edwards. He had the Edwards' on many many times, and has never had Hillary or Barack on.

Maybe they turned him down, but Bill Clinton had done the show.

He went out of his way to bring Edwards name up, even while the rest of the MSM was ignoring him.

[Patsy Stone]

81. Yes, he did.

He had at least two interviews with Hillary:

In January of 2007 (she was the only guest): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16788619/

In October of 2007 (14 minutes): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21255520/

Olbermann and Matthews interviewed Obama briefly after the SOTU 2008 (10 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1V01D53B6k&feature=related

[Tatiana]

50. He has been a pretty solid advocate of the Clintons and given them lots of time on his program.

(Jan. 23, 2007) "Troubled. Anxious. Insecure. Disheartened."

That is the state of the union, according to Sen. Hillary Clinton.

(Sept. 22, 2006) NEW YORK, N.Y. - On Friday, "Countdown" host Keith Olbermann caught up with former President Bill Clinton at the Clinton Global Initiative in New York City, and asked him about everything from his work in the international community to his advice for President Bush to his pick for president in 2008.

KEITH OLBERMANN, MSNBC HOST: Thank you for some of your time today, sir. This was an extraordinary success. This was transcended these last three days, not just monetarily, but the number of people that you reached here, and the convictions and the generosity. Here’s eight more schools in Kenya from me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14960533/

“The American Dream needs to be renewed,” Clinton told Countdown host Keith Olbermann during an interview in which she discussed the president’s upcoming address, her bid to replace him as the first Democratic president since her husband and the possible “ambassador” role Bill Clinton might play in her administration.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16773978/

(July 19th, 2007) A country — a government — a military machine — can screw up a war seven ways to Sunday. It can get thousands of its people killed. It can risk the safety of its citizens. It can destroy the fabric of its nation.

But as long as it can identify a scapegoat, it can regain or even gain power.

The Bush administration has opened this Pandora’s Box about Iraq. It has found its scapegoats: Hillary Clinton and us.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19859124/

(Oct. 11th, 2007) Countdown" host Keith Olbermann spoke to presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, about her name being mentioned consistently in Tuesday's Republican debate, her vote about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, her opinion of former vice-president Al Gore and other political headlines of the day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21255520/

[high density]

23. Maybe when she starts doing something positive or creates some sort of positive news.

The last two weeks haven't been kind to her campaign.

[boston bean]

24. Hell No! I have notice his misogyny on and off for a few years. It is palpable now. I have lost a

lot of respect for him.

[Freida5]

26. No! He will not violate GE corporate policy. That is why I don't watch NBC

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[DURHAM D]

49. What clue to do you think you have?

Like someone else suggested - follow the money.

[Auntie Bush]

54. So as you see it...everyone who doesn't agree with you...hasn't a fucken clue.

[MadBadger]

No, I just find it insane to accuse Olbermann of following GE's corporate Policy

This is the man who goes after the Bush admin. every day, including his war, which GE makes plenty of money off of. i think it is blatantly clear that Olbermann doesnt give a shit about GE's stance on anything and you know that. KO is no Corporate tool.

[cottonseed]

28. He should report a trainwreck as a kitten convention?

When you go from prohibitive favorite to selling donor lists on the street, it's hard to shine a positive light on it.

[bigtree]

33. the touting of money

as an indication of worth has become everything for the Obama campaign. I remember though, a time when we focused our compliments on the merits of the candidates, rather than how much money they've raised or are able to spend to get themselves elected.

[cottonseed]

37. It's not the money, it's the amount of supporters donating.

It's never been about the money. But I think you knew that.

[bigtree]

44. not in the way it's portrayed. and what is the impact of the money? exposure.

That's an obvious skew in the process, with the networks who receive the lion's share of the money always quick to run candidates down for not ponying up at the astronomical rate that's become the new norm.

[Umbram]

32. if baby Jesus...

said something positive about one of the candidates, he'd be castigated by the adherents of the other candidate.

It seems NOBODY is above this pettiness.

[Medusa]

40. If HRC begins to win races again. . . and he thinks she'll be the nominee

he'll suck up to her again. Hell, I'm an Obama supporter and even I noticed how he made a rather dramatic turn to being pro-Obama as soon as Obama began to look like a real contender. I know there's a lot of DU love for him but I don't get it. I've never brought that his sudden conversation to speaking out against the Bushies was anymore than a really cold, calculated career move. But kudos to him, he's milked it for all it's worth.

[Auntie Bush]

62. Lat's a rational post...I'm afraid to think you might be right.

I have reluctantly wondered about the latter half of your post. But I hated to believe it.

I also noticed him suddenly changing course once the Obama mania set in.
I had been watching and looking for some hint of bias before that and couldn't decide who he supported. He was playing his cards safe. I was going to email him and request that he not take sides when he jumped aboard the Obama train. He lost the respect of many of his viewers at that moment. I'm tempted to email him regarding my disappointment.

I wonder what he'll do if Hillary wins the nomination. It's going to be tough if he has to cover a brokered convention and try to be a un-bias journalist.

[stevenleser]

41. Will there be one article from Krugman that does the same for Obama?

This is silly.

[bigtree]

46. Is he getting a primetime network broadcast?

I'll watch that.

[thevoiceofreason]

42. WHA AAAAAA AAAAAAAA AHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH

Big wussy.

[bigtree]

45. bully

[thevoiceofreason]

51. Chickenshit

[bigtree]

57. 'hope and unity'

[thevoiceofreason]

59. "Been here before"

Little shrub.

[thevoiceofreason]

60. Self-delete

[spooky3]

43. keep the TV on and watch Dan Abrams after Keith

[rox63]

53. Yep, Dan Abrams was shilling for Hillary big-time tonight n/t

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

48. when you keep gettiing blown out, your campaign is going to get bad coverage

that is how it is.

[peoli]

55. ummmm KO didnt even mention the word Obama for most of 2007.

[JVS]

58. When she throws in the towel!

[bigtree]

61. gobama

[Danger Mouse]

63. You know, it's funny how some Hillary supporters whine about us Obama supporters throwing people

like John Edwards under the bus for 'not supporting Obama'
but I seem to remember some very nasty comments about John Kerry and Ted Kennedy on Super Tuesday and after, and Keith Olbermann is suddenly not too popular among you folk either.
Hypocrites.

[JVS]

64. yes. I believe the phrase "fat turd" was used to describe Teddy

[Danger Mouse]

70. disgusting.

saw lots of nasty jokes about his drinking habits, too.

[bigtree]

66. I love these rants about 'Hillary supporters'

do, tell me more about how I feel.and what I believe

[Danger Mouse]

69. Did I say you? I said some.

I see you complaining about Olbermann. I don't know if you were one of the ones bashing Kerry and Kennedy, so I didn't say you were, did I?
I'm sure some of the people bashing Olbermann on this thread were also some of the ones bashing Kerry and Kennedy, and also bashing Obama supporters for 'sacrificing' people like Palast.

[bigtree]

72. nope. Kerry and Kennedy are heroes to me

Kerry . . . obvious, Kennedy as the most successful legislator in U.S. congressional history.

Even John Lewis (after his switch to Obama), who I deeply respect.

[Danger Mouse]

74. i'm glad to hear that.

i was discouraged by Hillary supporters who turned on them so viciously on Super Tuesday.
i am also discouraged by Obama supporters going after Edwards.
we're democrats, and americans, first and foremost...over our adherence to a candidate. putting our loyalty to the candidate ahead of our loyalties to our own principles as democrats, americans, and human beings, can cause us to act in scary ways...
like calling ted kennedy a 'fat turd' for not supporting Hillary, or accusing Edwards of 'selling out' for even CONSIDERING AN ENDORSEMENT of hillary.
:puke:

[XemaSab]

80. Truth to power!

:patriot:

[Hoof Hearted]

65. We quit watching Olberman for good a few weeks ago. His non-stop Hillary bashing

left us nauseated. Found out I don't really miss him. Aint that somethin'?

[rodeodance]

68. i was astounded when he started being biased. I just never expected from him.

[thevoiceofreason]

71. Not biased

Only honest.

And rodeo, I noted that you commented as a kick to one of the inane Clinton puff posts 19 times in 25 responses. That was your most cogent set of responses yet.

Peace

Have you ever seen a rodeo? Asking as one who used to ride in them.

[bigtree]

73. is there supposed to be something meaningful in that unsolicited ridicule?

in regards to your candidate?

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[rodeodance]

75. i am being sincere when i said he has recently become biased. I have ridden

in rodeos--barrels only. hobby

[rodeodance]

76. and btw--I respect Larry J.

[VotesForWomen]

77. not likely; olberman's a member of the bad-boy club and no fan of women. nt

[Faygo Kid]

79. Yes. When it ends. Which will be March 4.

Without bile or criticism, this will all end soon. And I will be happy to have my DU back, and to have the candidate running that I never thought I would see take the oath of office in January, but will do so. Barack Obama. And the world will be stunned, and will change that day.

And that's no knock at Hillary Clinton, who I hope will be the first woman Senate Majority Leader in history. She would kick butt. But we need more as president.

[Exultant Democracy]

82. He is one of our great truth tellers. n/t