Polls that should make Hillary supporters smile

[aquarius dawning]

Rasmussen 02/13 - 02/13 754 LV 51 37 Clinton +14.0

SurveyUSA 02/10 - 02/11 720 LV 56 39 Clinton +17.0

Columbus Dispatch 01/23 - 01/31 2156 LV 42 19 Clinton +23.0

Most recent three Ohio political Polls have Clinton leading by an average of +18 points. Things are looking psoitive in Ohio. No time for complacency though.

[skipos]

1. That trend wouldn't make me smile if I was a Hillary supporter

but I am not.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. so stop taking a dump here...i believe you have enough obama fan threads to play on.greed is piggish

[skipos]

14. Pointing out the trend is "taking a dump?"

Jeeze. I didn't say anything about how awful triangulating Hillary is. What is the problem?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Yes it is. You immediately had to jump in and rain on a positive thread.

n/t

[aquarius dawning]

7. Your post confuses me. Must be because I'm an ignorant white male Ohioan

[skipos]

12. It looks like her lead is shrinking over time

as it has in many states. Are you still confused? I am not sure I can explain it any better than that.

[aquarius dawning]

16. She's ahead by an Average of 18 points despite BO's MO. What's not to like?

Do you think us so fickle that we'll change our minds in the last minute by large margins just because BO comes here throwing his money around and talking purty to us?

[Independent-Voter]

24. Hillary was up 30-40% earlier in the year, and Obama is gaining ground fast

Yeah, considering the ass-kickings she's had since Super Tuesday, I'd be worried if I were her.

Then, again, the good people of Ohio put Bush in office for 8 years, so what the hell do their ignorant asses know?

[aquarius dawning]

28. keep insulting Ohioans Obamaman. We like that.

[Independent-Voter]

30. So Ohio didn't put Bush in the White House for 8 years? Do tell.

[aquarius dawning]

36. Actually, Ohio has picked every winning President for 28 out of the last 30 Pres. elections.

Worth considering if you ask me.

[skipos]

37. No, I think OH will change their minds for the same reasons most of the country has:

Hillary is a bad candidate.

You see what is happening around the country, right?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/oh/ohio_democratic_primary-263.html

[aquarius dawning]

38. I think anyone here who was going to change their mind has had plenty of time to do so

I thinki she'll retain herlead because Hillary is an Awsome candidate and; furthermore, neither Ohio nor Texas like ultra-liberals. The Kennedy/Kerry endorsement will be a kiss of death in Ohio; furthermore, Hillary's moderate record and history of supporting national defense measures will be an asset here, not a detriment. We like moderate establishment types in Ohio.

[skipos]

39. No disagreement there. Hillary is more conservative than Obama for sure, and

she is a big fan of war as well. If that's what OH and TX Dems want, then that is what they should get.

[aquarius dawning]

43. Exaggerate much?

Clinton is a fan of a strong national defense. That's different than being a "big fan of war". GWB and JM are big fans of war, Hillary, on the other hand, will begin redploying within 60 days of assuming the role. Has BO made such a promise? furthermore, BO made it clear that he has no problem using the military option when discussing the Iranian issue with AIPAC members.


"the use of military force should not be taken off the table when dealing with Iran."
Barack Obama


"global leaders must do whatever it takes to stop Iran from enriching uranium and acquiring nuclear weapons"
Barack Obama

[BlackVelvet04]

44. Yep....

a puppy not yet housebroken....pissing on the floor again.

[Independent-Voter]

40. Your post is "Awsome!"

So basically, dems in Ohio can't get their shit together and vote for someone who is leading McCain in every poll right now. No wonder Ohio is one of the few states in the country that is actually LOSING population each year. I'd leave that hellhole too if I were in their shoes.

[aquarius dawning]

47. in the past 30 elections, Ohio has had their shit together enough to be on the winning side 28 times

so fuck off.

[Renew Deal]

2. Honey, I shrunk the lead

:hi:

[islandmkl]

3. too bad the primary isn't tomorrow...

if recent history is any indication of what might happen

[TomClash]

5. It looks like

Hillary went from a 23 point lead to a 17 point lead to a 14 point lead - in two weeks. Not the most positive timeline.

[aquarius dawning]

8. Ohio and Texas will be her Battle of San Jacinto.

[Zueda]

6. let's see what the post potomac primary polls will say.

[Kittycat]

9. So you're using the Dispatch poll as a legitimate one?

The only thing that paper is good for is lining the bird cage.

ETA: I'll give you the other polls. We have some work to do :)

[oasis]

10. Expect a rally for Hillary. Time to close the book on Obama's Cinderella adventure.

And they all lived happily ever after.:smoke:

[indimuse]

15. The End.

:evilgrin:

[susankh4]

17. I think you are right...

Ohioans don't like to be told who the "inevitable" is.

If Hillary comes here as the underdog, that will strengthen her appeal. And it looks like that will be happening!

[ginnyinWI]

29. Don't you think it's Hillary who has been the inevitable one?

I sure has been the case up until just this week. She's not the underdog--yet. Like someone else said, wait until Obama actually campaigns in Ohio. Wherever he does, he wins votes.

[oasis]

34. The people of Ohio know that it's up to them to put an end to this flirtation with insanity.(eom)

[susankh4]

49. Yes we do!

And to make us Ohio dems even madder... the low down, slimy Rebug newspaper "Cincinnati Enquirer" is telling us we had better not vote for Hillary.... or else they will win! Bwahahahahahaaaaaa. Do they think we were born yesterday?

McCain can't wait to run against Barack. And that's a fact. Ohio hed better put on the brakes!

[oasis]

52. Good for you. Roll your sleeves up Ohio and win this one for America. (eom)

[Occam Bandage]

22. Oh, I hope you do expect that. It'll make that day all the sweeter.

[oasis]

26. The party's over so put your pretty balloons away. Real America must go to work now.

[Occam Bandage]

27. You've given up already?

[Skidmore]

11. LOL! I started reading this thread just when an interviewer on MSNBC

was asking a Chris Redfern from Ohio about a report that the Republican party spokesperson in Ohio had apparently said that the Rs were hoping for Hillary to win because they needed to mobilize their base and bring in more money. That said and an open primary might leave a Clinton victory there suspect as to its importance.

[bigtree]

32. as suspect as any open election Obama won

[Occam Bandage]

13. I like that trend a lot.

[aquarius dawning]

18. Yeah. he's Down 18 points after super Tuesday, the Potomac primary, & every other primary win touted

as an inevitable indication of his unstoppable momentum. I'm liking it too.

[Occam Bandage]

21. 23, 17, 14. 9-pt drop. And he's only just started campaigning. Keep in mind

that this is the same Barack Obama who made up 20 points in the polls in the 10 days before Super Tuesday, and went from leading in 3/21 states to winning 13/21. ;)

[karynnj]

25. Actually, that poll was before the Potomac primaries

which means that his momentum could have continued.

I also wonder what all the Clinton talk of winning by superdelegates even if she merely comes close in pledged delegates. I grew up in a neighboring state and this completely violates a Midwestern sense of fair play - and fair play is a strong value in the Midwest. The idea that the wife of the last 2 term Democratic President with his political machine, that they tell us is one reason to vote for her should win the nomination after losing the pledged delegates is definitely UNFAIR.

[UALRBSofL]

20. aquarius this is great news, thanks for posting

I just hope it holds up. :)

[aquarius dawning]

33. This is where we fight. This is our San Jacinto.

This is where we make our last stand: in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and in Texas where the battleground favors us. This is where we fight Obama.

[grantcart]

42. Well I wish Hillary's numbers were a little higher

when the polls tighten and the campaigning really begins it will be noted that once again Hillary's comeback is stalled, Obama has the momentum and it will be a question if Hillary can "hang on" to win Ohio. She probably will but the decline in polls will shape the perception spin. It would have been better if they were tied and she moved up. If her numbers were even a little bit higher it would again heighten the trend that she is losing support not gaining.

[aquarius dawning]

46. I'm just trying to get through March 4th before I start worrying about the perceptions and spin

on March 5th

[grantcart]

48. The loss in polls will begin to be a big news story March 1st

[Barack_America]

19. Doesn't she need to win by 60-65% there?

Isn't that the number I've been hearing?

She's close in some of those polls, though.

[aquarius dawning]

23. I don't think anyone really knows how much anybody needs to win by any amount anywhere.

What is known is that a few good solid Hillary wins in large states will stop Obama and send this thing to the super delegates who will have to consider a new set of numbers that don't show Obama as the undeniable winner. Obviously, solid Hillary losses in the big states will have an opposite effect. the numbers posted are encouraging though. Ohio is saying NO to the BO MO.

[WilyWondr]

31. The longer I hear this argument

the more HRC campaign is sounding like the gulliani campaign sounded before Florida.

Didn't work out so well for him.

[aquarius dawning]

35. Gulliani never won much of anything. Hillary has won her fair share of nice prizes in this

The candidates are basically tied and there are some 577 delegates up for grabs in states that seem to be favoring Hillary not to mention the Super delegates. I can appreciate your audacity of hope but, currently, reality is looking good to Hillary's camp.

[Independent-Voter]

41. Hillary hasn't won anything since Super Tuesday

and more than likely would have lost California if not for the voters that voted a full MONTH before their election. Given her huge advantage in name recognition, the fact that she's one of the many women fucking an ex-president, and the full support of the DLC, Hillary has run her campaign into the ground.

[aquarius dawning]

45. So, she won big enough on Super Tuesday to stay in the game

quit being such a pissy little hater about it.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

51. Wow -all of Obama's "positive and uplifted" followers sure pooped all over this thread.

Typical.

Think: "What would Obama do?"