How do you think everyone who voted for Hillary in the states she lost feel now

[jenmito]

I'm sure most of you have heard Hillary justifying every loss thus far by either saying the state didn't matter because it didn't represent America, or because only activists go to caucuses, or because the large Black population voted for Obama and she "understands." Shouldn't she at LEAST thank those who DID support her and went out of their way to vote for her? Is it because she'd have to acknowledge her losses? She really is a sore loser.

[MADem]

1. Aren't you an ungracious and whining winner? That victim shit won't play

against Big Johnny McCain, ya know.

You'd better toughen up or he'll hand you your whiney little ass after he kicks it from one side of the nation to the other.

What will you do if you don't have Hillary to kick around anymore, eh?

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[griffi94]

15. thanks for the welcome

i've been here 6 years....i notice you joined this past november

[K Gardner]

16. Yes, but at least I'm not voting for McCain, like you claim to be. Evidently time spent on DU

is no guarantee of democraticness !

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[griffi94]

40. thanks for the lovely hugs and kisses

but i don't think you're gonna be able to insult me into voting the way you feel i should....your vote is yours...go cast it....my vote is mine.....i'll cast it as i see fit.....

[Barrymores Ghost]

63. I can't stop you from that...

...not that I would presume (or want) to try. Sorry if you perceived my response to your prominently-displayed shallow ignorance as an insult.

You can vote for whomever you choose, on your own time, keep it to your own self, and reconcile that with your sleep patterns or your reaction to your own reflection in the mirror however you must. That's the beauty of a democracy.

DU, however, is not such a limitless democracy. Maybe you should go back and re-read the terms of your subscription. If you threaten to support or allude to the backing a Republican as preferential over a duly-elected Dem candidate, you risk being shown the door. The choice in this matter is not yours.

Have a wonderful evening.

[NMMatt]

22. What a great idea

Are you aware that McCain wants to escalate the War in Iraq to Iran?
Are you aware that McCain will appoint justices like Scalia to the Supreme Court?
Are you aware that McCain is opposed to choice?
And I suppose your sour grapes has blinded you to the fact that McCain won't do jack shit about health care, never mind mandates and what not...

But by all means... vote McCain to prove some kind of point.

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[ruggerson]

7. Another gracious, warm post from the land of "Hope"

[nonconformist]

14. And "Unity"... don't forget "Unity".... nt

[NMMNG]

30. "Accept HOPE and CHANGE goddammit!"

Or we'll beat it into you!

[MADem]

64. As your ONE TRUE SAVIOR!!!! Or ELSE!!!

:rofl:

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[jenmito]

8. Uh, NO.

Where did you get that I am whining or ungracious? I'm pointing out the facts.

[MADem]

65. Gee, from reading your ungracious, whining post--that's where. NT

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[MADem]

88. Ah, how classy, with the personal insults. Who's projecting now?

:rofl:

Pathetic.

[Cha]

31. hilary is the ungracious and whining LOSER.

I wouldn't feel so wonderful about hilary if I voted for her in those states that she deemed not mattering "because it didn't represent America, or because only activists go to caucuses, or because the large Black population voted for Obama and she "understands." Shouldn't she at LEAST thank those who DID support her and went out of their way to vote for her? Is it because she'd have to acknowledge her losses?"

Jenmito raises good questions.

[MADem]

67. No, there aren't any "good questions" raised here--yet. But here's one....

WTF is the matter with some of the Obama supporters here? The OP is a classic example, and you're bringing up the rear rather nicely yourself.

They win, and they feel compelled to shit on their fellow Democrats, insult the opposition primary candidate, and talk trash like they're street thugs, or schoolyard bullies.

That sort of gratuitous insulting of your fellow members on this forum is the IDEAL way to encourage Democrats to stay home in November, you know, if your candidate prevails.

Does he not need the votes of the Clinton supporters? You're sure ACTING that way--as if our votes aren't needed.

You also make Clinton supporters look askance at the prospect of supporting Obama, because if you and the OP are examples of Obama supporters, I certainly don't want to be associated with unkind and meanspirited people such as you two.

I can only imagine that you have poor social skills and have no idea how to be magnanimous in victory. Because if that's not your issue--an inability to interact in a mature fashion with your peers, here-- the only other reason I could think of for such pisspoor, shitty and childish behavior would be that you're working for McCain and your mission is to depress the Democratic vote in November. It's got to be one or the other--clueless, snarky and vicious, or working behind enemy lines.

Because that IS what you're doing, you know--you're depressing the turnout for the general election with that sort of rhetoric.

I do hope you aren't working for the other team, and that it's a simple lack of intelligence that is causing you to behave in this unacceptable fashion. I will say that you do your candidate NO FAVORS with your commentary.

[Cha]

70. You're actually describing

the hilarys and projecting it on Obama's supporters..and looking just a little bit paronoid in the process.

[MADem]

79. No, I am not. Nice try--a bit childish, but expected, frankly. NT

[emilyg]

62. Wow! Yes.

[Occam Bandage]

2. It was rather surprising that she didn't even thank her supporters in VA, MD and DC.

[jmg257]

9. Wouldn't have taken her very long...even if she thanked them all individually... ;)

[JimGinPA]

17. Hey!!!

That was funny!!!

:rofl:

[Olney Blue]

10. I voted for her yesterday, and I don't need a thank you.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Not suggesting her supporters *need* it, but it's very rare that candidates don't.

[griffi94]

21. well said

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[NMMatt]

25. My sister was in El Paso at the rally...

And didn't know until she got home that Hillary got trounced. Maybe she just didn't want to spoil the party, hah!

[jenmito]

27. She doesn't appreciate your vote. I guess that doesn't bother you. n/t

[Olney Blue]

46. How do YOU know how she feels about my vote?

I've heard her thank her supporters over and over on the stump. I wasn't monitoring the news
that night and the next day waiting for a "thank you." I did see a press conference this morning where she congratulated Obama, but that hasn't been mentioned much around here, only many posts that she "didn't congratulate Obama" during a rally last night for supporters who came to see HER.
The fact is, that she can't do anything right with some Obama supporters on this board. No?
I voted for her purely for selfish reasons- I think she can institute the science policies I want, so I would like to thank HER for making sense in policy and giving me a chance to vote for what I believe in.

[jenmito]

92. Because I heard and saw her dismiss her losses in every state so far. She said each of those states

didn't count for one reason or another. Yes, she congratulated Obama the next day after word was out about how ungracious she was-as if those states never even voted.

[Cha]

72. It's a good thing cause

you "don't matter".

[Yael]

18. Or Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington State, Maine and the Virgin Islands...

[jenmito]

34. EVERYWHERE she lost...very unappreciative of those who took their time out to vote for her.

[jenmito]

26. That's what I'M sayin'! n/t

[Barrymores Ghost]

38. That's because this campaign, and her wanna-be election...

...seems to be now, as it always has been, much more about her than us.

Which is why she would do anything within her power to turn superdelegates against the will of their very constituents and subvert the election process and have herself declared, by fiat, as the Democratic candidate, courtesy of her political peers. If you ask me, there's but a fine line between that and getting the Supreme Court to declare you president in the face of a majority of general election ballots speaking to the contrary.

Which is why I'm an Obama delegate.

[juajen]

6. She absolutely always thanks her supporters

Did you watch the while thing, or just a clip? The clips show what the stations want to be on TV, not necessarily everything that happened. HRC is always very gracious. This is a disingenuous post.

[Occam Bandage]

11. I watched it live, yes. She thanked her Texan supporters, and the crowd in Texas. She didn't even

mention her VA, MD, and DC support, AFAIK.

[jenmito]

36. She did not thank those who voted for her in the states she lost. n/t

[candice]

19. One told me this was the first time he wished he vote multiple times!

(He's sick of General Electric's Chris Matthews and other distorted media. I suggested he unplug like I did.)

[babylonsister]

20. Her ungraciousness has been noted by many, from non-concessions to

her competition to her lack of acknowledgement to her supporters. Perhaps that's not helping her popularity, such as it is.

[Whisp]

33. She is not Amused, by the throngs not amused of her....

[jenmito]

93. Good. It sure doesn't make her a sympathetic figure.

:hi:

[jlake]

23. You tell me how you feel after Obama gets crushed in the GE.

Maybe the koolaid will wear off and you'll be able to see how so many were bamboozled.

[jenmito]

39. What do MY feelings have to do with Hillary's ungraciousness?

[jlake]

41. Because your partisanship is clouding your perception.

[jenmito]

47. Are you saying she DID thank those who voted for her in all the states she lost? And she didn't

make excuses about why she lost? You didn't hear her make the comments I posted in my OP?

[jlake]

56. I am saying that you see what you want to see - and since you are obviously

not involved with Hillary's campaign, you do not know what she tells her supporters.

[jenmito]

91. I know what she said publicly. I know that she dismissed her losses as being in states that don't

really count in one way or another!

[LittleClarkie]

80. As is yours

Cloudy perception is a two way street.

[totodeinhere]

58. There is no way to know if Obama would get crushed or not.

It's a long time until November. Any number of things may happen. Your smug prediction that Obama will be crushed is not based upon any logic whatsoever.

[jlake]

66. It is based on the fact that he is unvetted - and the GOP will tear him to shreds.

Remember that John Kerry was up over 20 points on Bush before he received the nomination - that didn't turn out so well.

[totodeinhere]

83. And you don't think that they would trot out their dirty tricks against Clinton too?

Most Repugs think that Clinton would be easier to beat than Obama. But personally I think that either Clinton or Obama would win in a landslide against Grandpa McCain.

[jlake]

84. I know they would attack Hillary - but by Obama's own words, thinks Hillary

is a tougher opponent than the Republicans will be.... He. just. doesn't. get. it.

[leftynyc]

90. That's why I laugh when people

post polls showing Obama beating McCain. Kerry was up big against the chimp at this time in '04 and the Senator Obama supporters think these polls will hold up in November. No sense of reality.

[Yael]

24. If she can't handle losing gracefully on one day

how do we ever expect her to bow out after 3/4?

I have this sinking feeling that she is going to, tooth and claw, go after the MI and FL votes. Screw the party -- full steam ahead and all that.

[griffi94]

28. yep

probly...i guess she doesn't feel like she owes obama anything

[donheld]

86. She indeed doesn't owe Obama anything but,

you'd think she owes her supporters something.

[Frances]

29. Good question

I spoke with a friend in Maryland just today. She's a life-long Democrat, never fooled by Nixon or Reagan or the Bushes.

She said she agonized over her decision, but finally voted for Hillary.

My friend's son and daughter voted for Obama.

She was fine with their decision, and will definitely support Obama in the general.

Both my friend and I think that either of our candidates would be a better president than McCain. To us, the enemy is the Repub candidate, not one of our own Dems.

[Politicub]

35. This is something that Obama supporters must say amongst themselves

I was a volunteer for Hillary in GA, a state she lost to Obama handily. I met some great folks as well by being a volunteer. I've never felt that my service didn't matter or was a waste of time. That's something on your shoulders, not my own.

And, I'm curious to know why you would even bother starting a thread about this topic? Seems pretty useless to me. :shrug:

[griffi94]

37. thread was started because it's a good way

to rag on hillary about some totally insignificant bullshit.....just slamming her because she exists.....and she's not the new savior obama....who is the beginning and end of all things good

[jenmito]

42. Wrong. It says a lot about a candidate the way they behave when they lose.

Very poor job by Hillary.

[rodeodance]

77. Try paying more attention to your candidate instead of policing another.

[jenmito]

98. Don't tell me what to pay attention to.

[MADem]

69. I wondered the same thing. The inane unkindness, the brutish gloating, the childish whining

even in victory!

It's the behavior of someone who wants to stop Clinton supporters from engaging in the process at all, if Obama prevails.

It's really a "vote supressing" post.

Really, who'd want to join a club--let's not use that CULT word, now... :rofl: ... -- that thinks that anyone who supported Clinton is a fucking asshole? Those poor Clinton supporters may as well stay home in November, because according to the OP, Clinton's such an asshole, and that must surely reflect on her supporters, that they're just not "needed" for the Obama blowout that is sure :rofl: to happen, even without our help, in November!

If it's not abject stupidity that motivated this unkindness, it can only be one other thing--the actions of insurgents operating behind enemy lines to supress the vote in November. McCainiacs under deep cover?

Nothing else makes sense. Idiots, or insurgents!!!!!!

[Lilith Velkor]

82. A sore winner is more likely the latter. n/t

[Politicub]

89. If the goal is to browbeat Hillary supporters, it's working

I've been on DU for a long time, and this is the first time I've felt as unwelcome as I do now. It's fine if someone doesn't support Clinton, but jeez, the swarm of Obama supporters that jump in at a moments notice to antagonize Clinton supporters wears me down. BTW, you captured the sentiment of the OP perfectly.

A note to Obama supporters - if your candidate becomes the nominee, the election is not going to be a cakewalk. Obama needs all of the support he can muster, and you're not doing his campaign a favor by attacking those who disagree with you. Yes, even us backwards Hillary supporters.

[jenmito]

96. No. It's something said by MANY people who look for a candidate to be gracioius in both victory and

defeat. If you were a volunteer for her, I'm sure you felt your service mattered. I'm talking about all the people who voted for her in those states. She has dissed them by giving some excuse like that state doesn't count because it's not representative of a cross-section of Americans, or because the state is small, or a caucus state where "only the activists come out," etc.

[elixir]

43. That's funny, I haven't heard Hillary making any of these excuses. Maybe it's the MSM.

[TheDonkey]

52. She's actually made all those excuses

pretty sad.

[Maribelle]

44. The forked tongues of Obama supporters never cease to amaze me.

You state: Shouldn't she at LEAST thank those who DID support her and went out of their way to vote for her?

Yet when she did exactly that in Florida y'all screamed bloody murder.


Tell the truth, now - - you do not give a broken penny about her supporters.

[Cha]

73. The hilary liars don't surprise me one

bit..not after a fucking year.

[BlueStater]

45. Your guy probably won the nomination. Stop being a sore winner. n/t

[aquarius dawning]

48. If they're anything like me, they'll feel good about having voted for the right person

regardless of the outcome.

[Olney Blue]

55. Isn't that what it's all about?

(please see my post, #46 above)

[aquarius dawning]

57. It is for me..this time at least

[TheDonkey]

49. Sorry but Hillary supporters in states Obama win do not count either, especially the red states

YEESH. They should have enough sense to move to a big blue state and then Hillary will be pumped about them.

[jenmito]

54. That's what I'm sayin'!

I just wonder what will happen if she loses TX, OH, or PA!

[jillan]

50. link?

[sniffa]

51. Even more of an annoyance I'm noticing my local (Boston) media

is the new meme that Super Delegates of Massachusetts need to now switch to Hillary because the people voted for her. Is this really a route they want to travel? I'd think not since I've only heard it said for my state - with the caveat that I live here so it may be biased, but I've seen it mentioned at least twice in the last few days on MSNBC and CNN, and again, only for MA.

[BlackVelvet04]

53. It's really so very nice of you to be concerned about our

feelings but most of us are adult enough to understand what's going on. We don't expect her to grovel for the gratification and entertainment of Obama supporters.

And I got a very nice email from her campaign thanking me for my help and support.

[Major Hogwash]

59. Like they just threw away their vote.

Like the people who voted for Romney felt when he dropped out after telling everyone he would stay in the race clear to the convention.

[Diane R]

60. Alienated. One day, she begs for our votes, says she won't forget us. The next day? Scorn.

[aquarius dawning]

61. BS. She hasn't "scorned" anyone throughout the entire campaign

[Cha]

76. She insults with her lies

and diving into the gutter politics. The states Obama won don't matter according to hilary.

[aquarius dawning]

97. I've never once heard her even imply that. he rmessage has always been positive unlike BO and Co.

[jenmito]

101. You haven't seen her say that she's not surprised she hasn't done well in caucus states

because only activists participate? Or that she dismisses her loss in states with a large Black population as Black people wanting to vote for another Black person?

[Cha]

103. Then take the cotton outta

your ears and listen..we aren't making this shyte up. This is documented..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4598698

[robbedvoter]

68. I'd feel angry that GOP-ers crossed the party line and cancelled my vote

Since you ask. Open primaries - beg for dirty tricks.

[TexasObserver]

71. Half of them are still mad, and the other half claims they voted for Obama.

[rodeodance]

74. Why post such a divisive OP? And no need to make assumptions about

what people are thinking or feeling. Enjoy obama's wins. post something positive about him instead of all this Hillary hating threads.

[LittleClarkie]

75. And so her pick for a state that matters because it represents America is...

TEXAS?!

[juajen]

78. I believe they would be sorry that she lost.

Stop trying to sway Hillary's voters. They don't need you to determine who they vote for. Her reason for the loss didn't bother me at all when she lost in Louisiana. I just hoped that for just once I could be proud of a Louisiana vote. Oops, not quite true. I was very proud when Kathleen Blanco was elected; but very dejected that this state let her opt out of a re-election bid because of something that was not her fault. What was she supposed to do? Put her finger in the dike (or levy) as the case might be?

[VotesForWomen]

81. actually i haven't heard her say any of that stuff; heard you say it, though. nt

[kerry-is-my-prez]

85. And you are a poor winner....

n/t

[cboy4]

94. I voted for Edwards, but I feel so blessed I didn't vote

for Obama after I read shit like this.

[PresidentObama]

95. And you're a piss poor gloater.

She narrowly lost Missouri, and picked up some delegates.

And won virtually every county here.

My voice was heard. So STFU!

[jenmito]

99. I'm not gloating at all. Try a little comprehenson. It goes a long way.

Your voice was heard but not aknowledged by the one you voted for. Enjoy! :hi:

[PresidentObama]

100. Really? Because I heard Hillary herself talk about winning all the rural counties in Missouri.

So what, are you lying?

Not only that, but I've heard her campaign officials and others who support here on TV and else where talking about Missouri.

[jenmito]

102. Oh, ok, you're right. Since she won many counties in Missouri she recognized that. Where she lost

big, in so many other states, she just ignores those states or dismisses them in different ways as not being important.

[elixir]

104. I feel great!! To know that my candidate, HRC, is still in the race w/ momentum going into

the next races. I feel faaaaaabulous.