What happens if there is a McCain/Rice ticket ....

[Iceburg]

who will the Indies and women (the voting blocks that will decide this contest) move toward.
If you think the Repubs have not considered this, think again ...there is for such a ticket on the internets.

[redwitch]

1. I will vomit.

jesus.

[Angela Shelley]

9. I´m with you, redwitch.

:puke:

[zonkers]

35. I will projectile vomit.

[Why Syzygy]

43. Ditto . felt it heaving as I read OP topic line.

Then hilarity. Talk about your circus side show.

[LakeSamish706]

2. Ugh.. that Veep never even crossed my mind... Yikes, what a horrid thought it is. n/t

[griffi94]

3. mccain won't pick condi

she doesn't bring anything to the party.....if i had to guess....i think he'll pick lieberman

[Iceburg]

5. McCain might not be the decider /nt

[Iceburg]

McCain might not be the decider /nt

[goldcanyonaz]

7. Condi is very popular within her party.

[Angela Shelley]

12. Intentional life span reduction program.

[goldcanyonaz]

4. The switch hitters will vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.

[tabasco]

6. We can say goodbye to the republican party as we know it.

They will be reincarnated in fifty years under a different name.

[Iceburg]

18. No they reclaim their "We are the party of Lincoln" mantra /nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. We get a good VP candidate who reams her in the debates re 9-11 and Iraq

She has never withstood scrutiny of her performance as NSA in the general public. She will if she's on the ticket. They don't dare risk it.

[CJCRANE]

10. If the Dems

can't knock down McCain/Rice or McCain/Lieberman
then the game really is rigged.

[griffi94]

21. i wouldn't underestimate mccain lieberman

that ticket would pull lots of independents
strong on national security....bi partisan...
remember lieberman won as an independent....it could put ct in play

[CJCRANE]

33. Two "mavericks".

It could work but it would be a gamble: two "loose cannons" who are unpopular with their own party's bases. But then again if the MSM decides to push the narrative of "strong on national security....bi partisan" they're in with a chance.

[TwilightGardener]

37. Lieberman will cost him the pro-life vote, and already lost a VP job. Nah gah happen.

[griffi94]

40. i think the fact that neither

is liked by their partys base will be a huge plus....they don't want to divide the country further...it's time for both sides to come to the table.....lieberman is enough of a social liberal and mccain a social conservative....that it would be very attractive to lots of the middle of the road voters

[Horse with no Name]

11. McCain WILL be forced to accept their choice as a running mate

and it will NOT be a Huckabee.
It will be someone like Rice, Jeb Bush, etc...and you can bet that more than one neocon will have dreams of McCain not fulfilling the entire term.
THAT is how he will be packaged and sold to them via Rush, O'Lielley, Hannity, Beck, et al.
We are in for some scary times and I don't take anything for granted--and feel seriously troubled for the ones that do.

[CJCRANE]

28. Yes...

kind of like Reagan/Bush or Bush/Cheney (where the president was more of a figurehead and the VP pulled the strings).

[stellanoir]

13. Counter with a more intelligent soulful and refined Rice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice

[COFoothills]

25. How about Anne Rice...

...oh wait, she's a democrat. Never mind.

Maybe former Red Sox great Jim Rice. But he can't even get elected to the hall of fame.

[Iceburg]

31. Agreed she is the better Rice but...

If Obama wins, he desperately needs EXPERIENCE on the ticket -- it will have to be man since no one outside of Hillary is a strong female candidate.
IF Hillary wins, she needs a popular man (any southerner) on the ticket.

[stellanoir]

60. Better than the other Rice doesn't say much at all.

The Soviet expert who neglected to notice that they were going bankrupt, never would have imagined planes ever flying into buildings, and sounds like a tape loop, is just so perceptive. /sarcasm

The "EXPERIENCE" meme is so tiresome when our circumstances are really unprecedented and "EXPERIENCE" in enacting only disastrous policies and innumerable failures is not exactly so great.

So how have the "grown ups" being in charge since '01 been working out for ya. . .?

Just saying.

No disrespect insinuated but at this point, conventional wisdom may have gone right out the window.

[tularetom]

14. God (or whoever) please let McCain choose this buffoonette

there could be no greater gift to the Democratic party than to have to run against two low IQ warmongering fools.

[COFoothills]

15. Bring it on....

...Condosleeza has never even run for dog-catcher in her life. She'll be easy pickings.

Won't happen though. That's neo-con wishful thinking. Their day has passed.

McCain's folks have a tough choice to make on running mate given how fractured the party is. Can't pick a moderate without alienating the social conservatives. Can't pick a social conservative without alienating the moderates. They can't win without both so they are kind of screwed either way. My guess is they'll go with someone as much as possible who is in between and has some credibility with both groups, but those are hard to come by.

[katsy]

38. "She'll be easy pickings."

Spot on. :thumbsup:

Mz. "who'd have thunk they'd fly airplanes into buildings" rice is the perfect example of reptilian incompetence regarding national security.

I hope mccain does choose her.

[npincus]

16. she's been a very weak Sec'y of State

I hope Grandpa does pick her!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. Obama will lose

[butterfly77]

19. I will be more energized to go and vote...

and campaign against them which is not that hard to do already...

[IndieLeft]

20. They will rip her to shreds over Iraq.

[TwilightGardener]

22. Stupid choice. She's been a failure at every job she's had in this administration.

[TwilightGardener]

26. And--what better way for McCain to TIE himself to ChimpCo--Bring it on!!!

[melody]

23. Yes, that would be a dream ticket

For the Democrats. Condi is even more closely aligned with her despised boss than old puffy face is.

Very few women would vote for Rice just because she's female. It would also be an obvious attempt to
copy the Democrats.

[predfan]

24. Condi as a VP, and an Ollie North endorsment would certainly shine a new light on McCain.

Grover Norquist as his economic guru, the skies the limit for such an array of talent.

[Flabbergasted]

27. Obama wins easily. Condi is as as likable as Cheney....and worked in Bush's cabinet.

Nothing shows she was all too competent either. Her best accomplishment is having no major scandals attached to her name other than her connection to Bush.

[Iceburg]

32. without the women's vote??? It would be a big roll of the dice. /ht

[Flabbergasted]

39. Woman, especially democratic woman, will not vote for Mc/Co.

just because a woman on the ticket. Republican woman will vote for McCain as normal. But Condi is not a draw in any sense.

[Iceburg]

44. Hmmm....After the vile treatment of women here on DU, I would wonder

why they would vote DEM.

[ieoeja]

48. Yes, because the election hinges on DU.

Skinner is God

[AtomicKitten]

29. It will become an epic battle between good and evil.

I would LOVE Ms. Rice to have her ass nailed to wall after her flippant testimony before Congress dismissing the 8/6/01 PDB entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack within the US."

[LostInAnomie]

30. If the "social conservatives" already won't vote for McCain...

... what makes the Repukes think they would vote for a black woman.

If that's the ticket, we'll win by 20 pts.

[rurallib]

34. They will pick up that 25% that supports W

that they would have had anyway.
Maybe we could get Codi's cousin Connie to tell a few tales about her.

[GodlessBiker]

36. Conservatives would hate a McRice ticket.

[NoPasaran]

41. It means we lose the Klingon vote

I think we'll still carry the native Earthers.

[momster]

52. But The Ferenghi Would Split

half would vote for one of their own...and the others would never elect a female.

ST Geeks Unite!

[CRH]

42. Those that fear the Bradley effect with Obama, can always dream. n/t

[ieoeja]

45. That would sink McCain.

The racist/misogynistic core of the GOP might not come out to vote for McCain as it is. Let him add a black female to the ticket, and he is sunk.

[anigbrowl]

46. Very unlikely

Rice is radioactive politically - boosted the Iraq war, failed to get anything done in the Middle East, went shopping for thousand-dollar shoes in New York while New Orleans was under water, defended Blackwater and Halliburton contracts in Iraq when it emerged that the State department's oversight process was in the toilet. She won't pull the black vote back for McCain, and she doesn't bring any special strengths to the ticket. He is already 'strong on national security' so it would make his (probable) campaign even more of a one-note tune than it already is.

[Occam Bandage]

47. Then they get destroyed. Rice is used Bush baggage.

[Az_lefty]

49. that would be the ugliest campaign pic ever...

:puke:

[DefenseLawyer]

50. Make no mistake

The "Southern Strategy" is still alive and well in the Republican Party. No chance anyone as thought once about putting Rice on the ticket.

[algol]

51. It would keep those North Vietnamese and Soviets at bay.

Otherwise, as silly a match-up as I could consider.

[leftofthedial]

53. you mean after we all stop laughing?

[samrock]

54. She is NOT a politican...

It would turn into a bad move all around for her, McCain... She wants to go back to Stanford.. Let her...

[calico1]

55. There will be no McCain/Rice ticket.

He isn't going to pick someone from the current administration. And Rice is probably the dumbest one of all. She couldn't even handle her job as NSA or Sec of State. No, he isn't that dumb.

[nomorewhopper]

56. rice is a great reminder that idiots come in all colors and gender

rice has shown no capacity to think creatively or independently, and was a mouthpiece for bush.

[Maribelle]

57. On his show last night, Larry King posed this question to Mrs. Obama, and her mouth dropped.

She told Larry she was just hearing this for the first time (paraphrasing) , and she needed time to digest the information.

[Iceburg]

58. ...do you mean to say they had nevered considered the possibility???/nt

[Maribelle]

62. I've found the transcript:

KING: I arrived in Washington today from New York, coming from L.A. Do you know ). And the first thing you hear is rumors. And one of the rumors is that if McCain is the nominee, he might choose Condoleezza Rice as a running mate.

M. OBAMA: Oh, I hadn't heard that.
KING: How would that strike you?
M. OBAMA: Ooh, I have...
KING: Does that add to the intrigue of this race?
M. OBAMA: I have no idea. You just enlightened me. I haven't had time to even ponder.
KING: That's just a rumor.
M. OBAMA: I -- you know, I have no idea.
KING: It's ponderable.

(LAUGHTER)

M. OBAMA: It is ponderable. I will have to ponder that and get back to you.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/11/lkl.01.html

[lisainmilo]

59. If there ever was a woman so closely associated with Bush

And his big 30% :sarcasm: approval rating.....I think they would be handing over the presidency...easily!

[Iceburg]

61. McCain's other choices: Sens Olympia Snow, or Suan Collins(ME), Sen Kay Bailey (TX)

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=LJS2007032901

[jenmito]

63. They BOTH lose. "Bin Laden determined to strike within United States" was considered by her

to be a "historical document." That will disqualify her...along with her statement that nobody could imagine anyone would use planes as missiles.

[theboss]

64. Does anyone like Condi?

I mean...anyone? Repubs hate her because she actually recognizes the rest of the world.

Dems hate her because of her boss.

Independents maybe kind of like her, but certainly not in any strong way.

McCain desperately needs to appease his base. Nominating a black, female, internationalist is not the way to go.