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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:32 PM
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If your choice for President gets the VP nod...
...what do you want, a cookie? :D
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:34 PM
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1. I can't see Dean getting the VP nod
He might have if Edwards won the nomination, but I can't see 2 New Englanders being on the big ticket. It's either going to be someone from the south or from the west coast.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:38 PM
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3. I don't see it happening either, but not for the same reason.
Think about Clinton and Gore: Arkansas and Tennessee.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:35 PM
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2. How often do those who run against the nominee in the primary
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 03:35 PM by janx
get chosen for VP?

I keep noticing huge threads of arguments about whether Edwards or Clark would be the better VP, but I can't see this as being very likely at all for either one of them.

Edit: And Dean--definitely not.
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:40 PM
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4. Bush I, Johnson.
A Democrat and a Republican. Both "trashed" the eventual nominee. Bush made his most memorable statement ever ("Voodoo economics") while attacking Reagan in the primaries.

As Paul Slansky pointed out, Bush said later, "It's the most memorable thing I've ever said." Slansky captions the quote, "George H. W. Bush, still haunted by his one moment of truth-telling."
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:41 PM
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6. But that was the exception, not the rule, no?
Most of the time the nominee chooses someone that people least expect and sometimes have never even heard of.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:40 PM
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5. Me neither
and I'm not even at all sure I would want Clark to be VP. All I would like for my candidate is respect.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:50 PM
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7. Wes Clark has a lot of that, definitely. n/t


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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:53 PM
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8. Thank you. So does Dr. Dean n/t
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 04:37 PM
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9. Wow! I'm impressed!
Followers of former "friendly-fire foes," forgoe flamewars for fraternalistic fellowship!

Freaky!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 04:41 PM
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10. I've always respected Wes Clark. n/t
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 04:48 PM
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11. And I've always respected Dr.Dean
If the Dems win, he was a huge factor!
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:20 PM
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13. Hey!
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 08:21 PM by VancSouthpaw
You're using up a lot of valuable F's that freeper childrens' schoolteachers may be needing before too long. hehe
:yourock:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:26 PM
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12. It most likely won't be any of them. n/t
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:24 PM
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14. I would be pissed off. Clark would not be prudent at all for Kerry's vp
He would have been for Edwards. But Kerry needs things Clark doesn't have, and he doesn't need what Clark would mainly bring
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:10 AM
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15. TAKE NOTICE
No one has dissed anyone up until now - but it was an EDWARDS supporter who threw the first volley.
Are you guys that insecure?
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:35 AM
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16. I was a Clark supporter up until he quit
And I still consider myself one more than an Edwards supporter, because Clark would have been the best candidate at the top of the ticket.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:44 AM
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17. If he doesn't, then why is Kerry sending him stumping through Ohio...
..."to speak on his behalf" and challenge Bush on National Security??

""Bush's presumed opponent, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), is responding with events this week focusing on troops and veterans in West Virginia and other battleground states. Kerry will say that Bush has shortchanged soldiers and their families in a time of war. Retired Army Gen. Wesley K. Clark, who lost his bid for the Democratic nomination, will speak for Kerry in Ohio.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56474-2004Mar13.html

The exit polls and national polls have shown that Bush is more trusted than Kerry on issues of National Security.

GENERAL, SACEUR Clark has exactly what Kerry needs. Metal.

And this from Paul Begala:

Clark, meanwhile, showed "you can take on Bush on national security, and the sky doesn't fall and lightning doesn't strike," Begala said. "Wes went at him fearlessly, and I think it emboldened the rest of the field."

http://www.bizreport.com/article.php?art_id=6467

Yes, Kerry needs what Clark has to offer. Reality is reality. It doesn't mean Clark will get VP, but he certainly would be the most outstanding choice (sans Richardson).
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