when will kerry go medieval on bush's ass? SERIOUS QUESTION

[Gato Moteado]

when does kerry pull out the pliers and blowtorches and really take it to the chimp administration?

since bush thinks it's ok for himself to campaign on his "leadership" in post-911 america, isn't it only right that kerry campaigns on bush's "leadership" in pre-911 america?

here is my question:

will kerry hammer bush with the following and, if so, when will he do it?

1) the fact that bush took a month long vacation immediately before the attacks on the wtc despite intelligence warning of al qaeda hijackings. it doesn't seem acceptable that a president take such a lengthy vacation especially after only serving about 7 months in office.

2) the fact that bush sat in the classroom for 30 minutes after learning that the 2nd tower had been hit and that america "was under attack". the fourth plane, the one that either crashed or was shot down over pennsylvania, had only just taken off when chimpy was notified of the 2nd WTC hit and had he done what the commander in chief is supposed to do and ordered all planes to land immediately, the lives on that 4th hijacked plane could have been saved and the terrorists apprehended.

shouldn't kerry be attacking chimpy for being soft on defense and shouldn't these be HUGE issues? if kerry doesn't bring up these issues, shouldn't we try to contact him and tell him he needs to? what do you all think?

[BootinUp]

1. Paging Wesley Clark

thats the ticket. Absolutely we should run on the pre-911 record and the post 911 as well.

You bring up some good points too, I wasn't aware Bushie was in the classroom for 30 minutes after the second plane hit.

[Gato Moteado]

3. i'm extremely happy about kerry slapping the chimp around....

...but i'll be very disappointed if he doesn't go after chimpy about being so weak on national security right up to and including sept 11.

[ochazuke]

4. Calling George Soros

Really hard-hitting negative ads against shrub are needed, but I don't want to see Kerry or his #2 getting down there. That's the job of supporting organizations. They need to spell out in devastating detail exactly how chimp has failed us.

The ads I've seen on TV about how shrubco is eroding American values are good. The ads about cutting overtime pay are good too.

Finally, the shalestorm of anti-Kerry stuff needs to be answered on TV and radio within the span of like a day or two, before it can sink into viewers/listeners heads, and in time to offer rebuttal points to Kerry-leaners/supporters if they get into a discussion about the subject with those who've heard/seen the anti-Kerry ads.

Does our side understand this? Are they up to it?

[Gato Moteado]

6. i really want to see kerry confront bush with his miserable...

...security failures in the days and months leading up to 911. i really think it has to come out of kerry's mouth. i want to see kerry use the opportunity to tell the american public he won't be taking any month long vacations on his watch when intelligence is picking up threats to our security. i want to see kerry look bush in the eye and ask him how he could lounge at the ranch while bin laden was plotting the murder of 3000 innocent people.

[noahmijo]

2. It's a good strategy

We're a good 8 months away from the election. Those accusations (and I do agree with them by the way) would be considered akin to firing a nuke at the Bush admin. The Bush admin would likely retaliate with everything they got and look to land just as bad of a blow. With nearly 8 months left, this could get just as ugly for Kerry as it could for Bush. Right now Kerry has Bush right where he wants him. He's throwing jabs and slowly devouring him over while Bush's ads and attacks even cause regular Republicans to roll their eyes. Kerry is slowly baiting Bush he's taking the smart way to victory.

In a sense like San-Tzu says in war "always leave your enemy an outlet" or something around those lines because if you don't the enemy will have no choice but to fight like a tiger. If Kerry drops this bombshell on Bush he is leaving him with no outlet, and Bush's team would get vicious (even resort to lying as proven but John Q may believe those lies) and Bush's team would be granted plenty of time to fight back (8 months)

This bombshell in my opinion at least should be something that Kerry drops on Bush during the debates or just weeks before the election leaving Bush with an extreme uphill recovery which he wouldn't be able to make in time for the election.

No offense to the bright people here at DU but any strategies that we may think of I garuntee you BOTH sides have considered long before. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bush team already has a counter-attack planned for when kerry does go on the offensive with Bush's "questionable ties" to Bin Laden and his lack of efforts to prevent 9-11. As of right now the best strategy, which kerry is following is he's keeping the Bush team guessing, he's got them in the dark and they're on pins and needles right now just wondering where they're going to be hit next, so they're shooting in the dark and hitting nothing but air.

[Gato Moteado]

5. yeah, i think you're totally right....

he needs to drop this one on him near the end where bush will have no outlet to run away from it and no time left to forge a retalliatory attack.

the thing that kerry has got going for him is that these aren't the only nukes he has in his arsenal, these are just a fraction. i really want to see kerry aim the equivalent of the shock and awe at the bush campaign. bush is having trouble dealing with kerry's jabs, imagine how much damage kerry will do once he starts hauling in the heavy artillery and nailing bush repeatedly.

[noahmijo]

8. There ya go pal

And he's going to do just that I predict, in fact it's funny "shock and awe" is just the term I thought of when I consider what Kerry exactly is going to hit him with in the waning months and weeks of the election.

Kerry has far more hehe "nukes" in his disposal other than the 9-11 thing, but that particular one has an emotional core attached to it. That one will cause far more damage to Bush's numbers than Bush's economic incompetence for example.

[Gato Moteado]

12. right on!

i wish there were a way to get this message across to the kerry people. i hope he knows his base wants the chimp exposed and humiliated. fascists deserve no less.

[sandnsea]

7. Let him testify first

Facts. Why go after innuendo when you can bury him with words from his own mouth after he testifies? There is plenty to go after Bush on in the meantime.

[Gato Moteado]

9. true....

but i am serious that i want these issues to come to the forefront. it's important to not only beat bush, but also to expose and humiliate the chimp and his fascist puppet masters to ensure that the republican party is pulled back to the center and to make sure their nazi-like march is stopped in its tracks.

[Kahuna]

11. True. But, bush's testimony will be secret. Only two of the

commission members will hear it. Whatever leaks come out will be suspect IMHO. Any quotes will be touted by the repukes as false...no matter how true. Remember. They are liars and crooks.

[ithacan]

13. we must ask: WHAT IS HE TRYING TO HIDE???

What is he afraid of?

If he is innocent, why is he hiding, why won't he testify under oath and before the entire committee?

[Gato Moteado]

14. because he's guilty of something, that's why.

and kerry needs to be the one to expose him because the media sure isn't doing their job.

[Beetwasher]

10. Not Necessary Yet

Kerry's doing just fine. He's got 8 months to go and lot's of ammo. It's a fine line between being agressive and being TOO agressive. Also, the Chimp is doing a fine job of working for us at this point. He's shooting himself in the feet left and right. Kerry need only help him along a bit at this point in digging his own grave.

[Gato Moteado]

15. i think kerry can never be TOO aggressive...

giving chimp enough rope to hang himself won't be enough. when kerry has chimpy on the ropes he's got to keep throwing punches. as soon as chimpy stumbles and falls by saying something stupid, kerry has to kick him and continue to kick him until after the elections. you can't let chimpy get up once he's down because karl rove will use the breathing room to work his evil magic with the media.

kerry must keep hammering and hammering and not let up....ever. the forces of good will prevail only if kerry continues to attack. no more mr. nice guy....we saw how well that worked in 2000.

expose the fascists.

[BootinUp]

18. hahahahaha

very graphic image you painted there. ;)

[Guaranteed]

16. He just did. He called them a bunch of liars.

That's about as bad as it gets in politics, barring the "child molester" or "commie spy" accusations.

[Barad Simith]

17. I think Kerry's like a boxer who...

...knows he's up against an extremely weak opponent. He's going to return Bush's jabs with greater force, but when he's not doing that, he'll continue to let Bush exhaust himself.

[Gato Moteado]

19. true.....

but, doesn't the general public deserve to know the truth behind chimpy's "leadership" leading up to 911? and, who better than kerry to bring the message?

[hippiegranny]

20. politicizing 9/11

will backfire on either camp. bush is already finding out that the ground zero ads were seen as trying to use the dead for political gain. the kerry campaign may stay away from this for that very reason, and also because they realize that they are up against the media portrayal of junior as steely jawed and resolute that much of the public bought into.

[adadem]

21. It's too early

to pull out all the punches. Need to save the good stuff for October.